Phat Fingers Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 hours ago, MNA said: PP1: Henrik - Daniel - Eriksson Larsen - Tryamkin PP2: Baertschi - Sutter - Horvat Edler - Hansen I mainly want Hansen on the PP for his hard slapshot. Trade Dorsett and a 3rd to Chicago for their 1st (because it's probably going to be in the mid-twenties anyway, I don't even know if they would take this deal). In all honesty, I'd just rather leave the moves to Willie D and TL/JB. I trust their actions and I believe what they're doing will move this team forward. Not so sure if I could really do the same Hutton?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 hours ago, nuck-lifer said: First time poster here. I have been a huge fan for many years and following CDC for a number of years. Would like to say that the true blue and green bleeding Canucks fans are right here on CDC. It’s pretty cool that people from the age of 14-80 can have a common goal (WIN IT ALL) and a similar interest like this. I was thinking if you were Willie and /or JB, and if you could make any decision for the team to win games, what strategy or game plan would you try out. Keeping in mind that Trevor couldn’t fire you, you don’t care what the fans think, and no idea is a bad idea. Kind of like Money Ball where Brad Pitt just went ahead and thought outside of the box to win. It could be a certain line combination that is out of the norm, what to do about their 3 on 3 problems, or benching a player that has never been benched etc.. One thought I had was utilizing the power play differently. Why does Willie for the most part throw the Sedin’s out at the beginning of the PP against the other team’s best and freshest PK unit. I think when Willie has last change he should put out the 2nd PP unit against the other team’s top PK unit every time. Than either on the fly or after a minute, put our top PP unit out against a tired #1 PK or their #2 PK unit. Better chance over all to generate offense in my opinion. I would also like to see them put Tryamkin in as a net presence on the first unit just like Boston does with Chara. That’s my 2 bits worth.:) Anyway with the off season draaaaaaaging on here and impatiently wait for the pre-season to start, what strategy would you try with the Canucks this year? Maybe Willie's listening!:) i don't have willie's expertise. my opinion don't mean much. willie's job is to put the team on the ice, he feels gives them the best chance to win. i'll defer to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Be puck possession hounds. Why, towards the end of a 50 second shift, having possession of the puck at center ice, do players dump it in then peel off for a line change? Pass it back to a defender who'll retreat behind his net, then change the other 4 players, then get an attack going when the (tired) defenseman can change as the play goes up-ice. My earliest memories of watching hockey were in Europe, fed on a diet of the Red Army and the Russian national teams. They hated giving up the puck and some games' possession times were 45 to 48 mins them and 12 to 15 mins opposition. Larianov was brought up in that environment, and I remember his early days as a Canuck when he hated the concept of dumping in for a line change (Makharov too, in Calgary, IIRC) But of course Russian trained defensemen were always better puck carriers/distributors than their Canadian counterparts in those days. We have some now, though, that could handle that tactic well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Was writing this before reading above....I agree completely with above ^ Play and practice as 5 player units. Just like Russia did. I know there's an odd number 4 forward line with 3 Defence lines. 4th line will use the d line available but with a simple defensive concept. Coach should try hard to push creativity at practice. so 5 guys jell as a unit, but with a basic defensive zone concept. It should all be about having and controlling the puck at all times. Which even means if it's not working in the Offensive zone exit with control and start over with speed. also needs work is making overtime units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since 82 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Green Building said: Just for your curiosities: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/7/15/8969859/nhl-travel-miles-the-2015-2016-super-schedule-released Vancouver was 5th in total travel last year, numbers are miles travelled: San Jose 50,362 Edmonton 49,401 Dallas 48,419 Calgary 48,341 Vancouver 45,711 Thanks Mr Building....or is it Mr Green? Knew the information had to be there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Put the puck in their net Keep the puck out of ours It ain't rocket surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Have the players learn Kiai in training camp and use it to remotely disable opposing players on breakaways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cramarossa Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 6 hours ago, thejazz97 said: Patrick Roy, is that you? Seriously, you'd think he'd have more respect for his 'tenders considering he was one himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I have been on the travel issue for years. It is not so much the miles, but they do indicate time as well, but the number of hours in an airplane. Planes are pressurized at 8000 feet and have dehumidifiers running to prevent condensation. These dehumidifiers combined with the lower pressure cause a person's body to lose moisture. When a player, who as already lost a lot of fluids by playing is put on a plane the re-hydration process is prolonged, the more the loss of hydration via a game the more difficult to rehydrate in flight. This has been my theory of why Vancouver is called a "goalie graveyard", goalies lose more moisture during a game than any other player. Combined with flying, they need longer to rehydrate. If they are still even a little bit dehydrated, they may feel okay but their brains and reflexes start to slow down, just a bit. IMO, that is why sometimes in the playoffs the backup actually plays better and why IMO the Nucks should have duel goalies playing strategically. Some players can adapt better than others, but age does matter. This also goes for the skaters on a team, especially in the playoffs where flying every couple of days can hurt the older and more played players more than say the 4th line. Often some unknown player seems to suddenly step up and out perform most others. Montreal used to use the "black aces" in the playoffs and most cup winning teams as well. Everyone knows if you fly for 3 or more hours your mouth and nasal cavities get dry. Even the best goalie Vancouver ever had, Luongo, sucked big time in the final, IMO, because of ALL the travel the team had in the playoffs, the coach's reluctance to play the back up earlier and relying upon ASKING if a competitive player, if he wanted to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Our PP should have a different look with a "get more shots" mentality. Even so, I think the Sedins should be the 2nd unit to come on the ice; I've felt this way for several seasons. The reason is that they try to wear down and tire out the PKers along the boards and this usually only leads to one shot attempt and wastes a lot of time. If they were on at the end of the PP, they could continue their cycle even after the PP ended and not have to worry about the clock. The 1st PP could attack the net right away and not cycle away the time. I think that would generate a few more goals over the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Willie is an OK coach, guys at least know they can earn ice time in a fair way under his watch. Haven't seen much of a strategist there tho.... but maybe thats where Doug Jarvis is going to bring in some much needed experience. He's seen it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hot yoga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Dose the opposition's Gatorade...? They might come up with some genius plays though.... hmmmm Dose the Canucks Gatorade? Nope, they already trip out when the pressure's on... hmmmm Ticket stubs are actually LSD?.. hmmmm That might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Lets run a PP 1 A and a PP 1 B PP1: - - Baert Daniel - Eriksson Edler, Tanev PP2: - Henrik - Horvat- Virtanen Hutton, Larsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePeaceAwakens Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Let's put Nikita " The Ram" Tryamkin in net if he doesn't make it on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I would fly a defenseman and a forward (or two) ahead for the number 2 game for a back to back AND play them regardless of coaching. Just to have fresh legs and help carry some tired players. This might help the abysmal record of back to back games and help prevent injuries. I would design extra pads for whoever plays in front of the net on the power play - for back and leg protection.(maybe even a full face mask) THEN let TryamKing and Edler and Gud SLAP THE HELL OUT OF THE PUCK! SHOOT HIGH AND HARD!SHOOT IT LIKE IT OWES YOU MONEY! guys would be very very afraid of our point shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: I would fly a defenseman and a forward (or two) ahead for the number 2 game for a back to back AND play them regardless of coaching. Just to have fresh legs and help carry some tired players. This might help the abysmal record of back to back games and help prevent injuries. I would design extra pads for whoever plays in front of the net on the power play - for back and leg protection.(maybe even a full face mask) THEN let TryamKing and Edler and Gud SLAP THE HELL OUT OF THE PUCK! SHOOT HIGH AND HARD!SHOOT IT LIKE IT OWES YOU MONEY! guys would be very very afraid of our point shots This is where Benning announces the hiring of Sami Salo as a slapshot specialist/consultant. on YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 17 hours ago, Green Building said: Just for your curiosities: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/7/15/8969859/nhl-travel-miles-the-2015-2016-super-schedule-released Vancouver was 5th in total travel last year, numbers are miles travelled: San Jose 50,362 Edmonton 49,401 Dallas 48,419 Calgary 48,341 Vancouver 45,711 Good post. Plus three of the five have won Cups. People need to just stop with the excuses around here. Too much travel. The refs are against us. The league is against us. Venus, Earth and the Sun aren't aligned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Quote Anaheim and LA were behind Vancouver at 6th and 7th for overall travel last season so your point isn't entirely justified. I do tire of watching players look fatigued and injured, but at some point you have to blame the skill of the team and the system being played for the way the on ice product looks. Heck I'm not looking at special treatment for Vcr I think the fans in the other cities shouldn't be provided with second class entertainment either. As it is the difference too large to over look. The number of back to back games the games, games immediately following a long road trip, time chnages. The illegal gambling folks I'm sure have it down to a "T" the people that are enjoying this is the likes of the Mafia. When I personally watch a back to back games ...especially when they have to travel immediately after the game to the next game . you have a pretty good chance of putting on a safe bet. I remember sitting watch a game in St Louis .... the Rangers had been on the road for 10-12 day, they never stood a chance. Fundamentally the game was a farce. I have in my business days been forced to travel and change time zones...it's not good never mind playing a game of hockey. Basically the NHL is serving up crap and changing premium prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 hours ago, MJDDawg said: Good post. Plus three of the five have won Cups. People need to just stop with the excuses around here. Too much travel. The refs are against us. The league is against us. Venus, Earth and the Sun aren't aligned. Great out of the box thinking. The assumption in this line of thinking is that the travel schedule is exactly the same every season. Some think that the League are not against us, but are for American teams. Betteman desperately wants a big TV contract in the States. Hockey was perceived as a Canadian and European sport. Now, with the miracle on ice and some WJ success and all Cups going to American teams, that perception is changing. And also, why is it somehow okay to make excuses as to why no Canadian team has won in the Betteman era. I also believe that the reffing is another result of the desire to grow the game in the States. They don't have to manipulate every game and the calls don't go against us every game. They let some teams assault each other brutally where players get injured and other teams get protected to the point where the linesmen actually dive between players to prevent any physicality after the whistle. This accomplishes three things: the first is the manipulation of the standings, the second is developing and maintaining rivalries, and the third is keeping some teams healthy and competitive and others not. If you look at standings at the end of any season, the difference for some teams to be in or out comes down to a couple of wins for some and a couple of losses for others. You can assume that a multi-billion dollar corporation is squeaky clean and I will trust my eyes and senses. I also watch many other teams so I definitely don't have on Canuck blinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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