CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 26 minutes ago, Pears said: Ah yes, because after one pro season and one preseason game in the big league means his time is done here. Please... Due to signing Stecher who has very much the similar skill set and more bumps Subban down the depth chart. Put it all together, and you can see management thinks Subban is a good player, but not the right fit for this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, J.R. said: Less so. Hence why he's still in camp. Well this is the million dollar question that we will find out soon when the money games start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, J.R. said: Goodness with the Subban whining. He's a talented offensive D who needs a LOT more development time learning to play in his own end and against men. There's nothing wrong with him being sent down to get that development time you bunch of emos... I really have no issue with him being sent down, it's just I wanted him to get more pre-season games to show just stuff before being sent down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, ice orca said: Well this is the million dollar question that we will find out soon when the money games start. Larsen being more polished/less of a liability/more developed than Subban is not really a question let alone a million dollar one. Whether that's enough to keep Larsen in the NHL lineup ahead of other options is a question however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, J.R. said: Goodness with the Subban whining. He's a talented offensive D who needs a LOT more development time learning to play in his own end and against men. There's nothing wrong with him being sent down to get that development time you bunch of emos... I wonder how many 'Nucks fans are cutters and are sitting on the toilet with a razor right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Due to signing Stecher who has very much the similar skill set and more bumps Subban down the depth chart. Put it all together, and you can see management thinks Subban is a good player, but not the right fit for this organization. Not the 'right fit for the organization' is a bit of a rash statement..Coaching staff is probably fully aware of Subbans limitations ..but haven't seen enough of Stecher against NHL players.. Realistically,...neither player is/was expected to crack the top 8 on the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingofsurrey Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Subban has strengths and weaknesses like all NHL players. At this point his defensive weaknesses are simply to big to compensate for his offensive skills. He needs to get to Utica - work on his D game - have a great full season of development. Lets see what he brings next yr to Canucks pre season. NOT a big deal. D Men take years to get to NHL level. Look at Guddy's struggles . Subban is 3-4 years away in my opinion from a canuck roster spot. No criticism on Subban. Cracking the NHL as a D man can be a long transition especially when you smaller body size..... Patience people. Patience... Give Subban a few more years to cook / stew / develop in Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, ajhockey said: Subban already? Give me a break. Last year, he didn't get any pre-season games in and this year he only gets one? I feel like he's getting the short end of the stick. Well, if the stick fits..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Baggins said: Well, if the stick fits..... nice try lol. that one kinda flopped though Baggins lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 23 minutes ago, Salacious Crumb said: I wonder how many 'Nucks fans are cutters and are sitting on the toilet with a razor right now? Sounds like you are a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said: Well, at least WD has no prejudice against the smaller guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Well, at least WD has no prejudice against the smaller guys. He should look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Well, at least WD has no prejudice against the smaller guys. That's not prejudice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Subban is going into his 2nd pro season. Spending a 2nd season or even a 3rd is not the end of the world. He was not going to make the Canucks this year. Management has to figure out what Larsson, Pedan and Tryamkin have to offer, plain and simple. Stecher gets an extended look because he is older and has more experience than Subban playing against men. Highly unlikely he plays any regular season games either. His Prospects performance probably made the decision easier over Subban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 46 minutes ago, ajhockey said: I really have no issue with him being sent down, it's just I wanted him to get more pre-season games to show just stuff before being sent down. He played a lot at the Young Stars tournament, and was not very impressive. Multiple penalties, out in the neutral zone when scored on, etc. His fate was sealed two weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Well, at least WD has no prejudice against the smaller guys. He expanded on what he meant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 If his last name wasnt subban nobody would care that he got sent down early. Someone tell me why he deserves to stick around? Hes not even close on the depth chart. Dmen take longer to develop, best thing for him is to be buried in utica for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 i'm sure they know what they are doing. they make their decisions based what what they know and not on what cdc thinks it knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic Innovator Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Subban is only 21! As Boudrias says his going into only his 2nd pro season! It's not the end of the world! I believe he will play well in Utica and benefit big time from top pairing ice time. All the garbage spewing out like "he is done, never play a game for Vancouver, treated unfairly, needs to have multiple games" blah blah is gross over reaction. I'm about to use the worst CDC phrase of all time - this is effective "asset management". (just threw up a little in my mouth) He is not in the top eight, he can clear waivers, and he will benefit enormously from another year under Travis Green. If he's not going to beat out Sbisa, Larsen, Pedan, Tryamkin, Edler, Tanev, Hutton and Gudbranson don't waste time and get him to Utica. Go for it Jordan! We are pulling for you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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