Where'd Luongo? Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 To Van : Josh Ho-Sang To NYI : Brendan Gaunce, 2nd Round Pick One thing I like about Ho-Sang is his social involvement. The guy goes out of his way to get involved in communities and make a positive impact. From a hockey standpoint, this is a guy that can change a game. He is going to make plays, something that is lost on us past the Sedins. We could really utilize this kid, and his value right now is attainable. He is someone we could have on our first line someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 no....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, DeltaSwede said: no....... why not? do you feel that Gaunce has a higher upside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Ho-sang is like a Shinakruk, High skill set but also a high bust potential and to make matters worse is he doesn't show any signs that he's going to break the drawbacks about him. He's got major attitude problems and has already failed with the Islanders on multiple opportunities. He's not someone I would take a flyer on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 24 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Ho-sang is like a Shinakruk, High skill set but also a high bust potential and to make matters worse is he doesn't show any signs that he's going to break the drawbacks about him. He's got major attitude problems and has already failed with the Islanders on multiple opportunities. He's not someone I would take a flyer on. If you look at interviews with his coaches and community members, they all speak highly of him. He speaks to schools on a regular basis, is on the face of an anti-bullying program, built schools for children in Jamaica during the summer a couple years ago, not to mention he is only 20 years old. He had a great camp and will probably get called up this year. He is way more talented than most of our prospects and has clearly matured from when he was selected in the 1st round a couple years ago. I suggest taking a look at the video in this article: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/josh-ho-sang-fails-make-new-york-islanders-starts-ahl-bridgeport/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 14 minutes ago, Where'd Luongo? said: If you look at interviews with his coaches and community members, they all speak highly of him. He speaks to schools on a regular basis, is on the face of an anti-bullying program, built schools for children in Jamaica during the summer a couple years ago, not to mention he is only 20 years old. He had a great camp and will probably get called up this year. He is way more talented than most of our prospects and has clearly matured from when he was selected in the 1st round a couple years ago. I suggest taking a look at the video in this article: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/josh-ho-sang-fails-make-new-york-islanders-starts-ahl-bridgeport/ How many times have we heard Kassian say the same things? Or Evander Kane? He's been trouble his entire career. Got sent home for sleeping in last year. Called out Hockey Canada for not getting an invite. He's a walking dressing room cancer. If he turns it around magically great, good for him, but he hasn't shown it and has a lot to prove. And even if someday he does, how long, it's not like temptations get any easier. No thanks. PASS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Where'd Luongo? said: To Van : Josh Ho-Sang To NYI : Brendan Gaunce, 2nd Round Pick One thing I like about Ho-Sang is his social involvement. The guy goes out of his way to get involved in communities and make a positive impact. From a hockey standpoint, this is a guy that can change a game. He is going to make plays, something that is lost on us past the Sedins. We could really utilize this kid, and his value right now is attainable. He is someone we could have on our first line someday. The kid sounds like he might just be another loser. No to Ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I would most defiantly take a flyer On him. but not if it would mean giving up a young nhl ready player (Gaunce may not have the ceiling of HO but his floor is much much higher) and that is something we have seen JB values and takes into account. If J Sub and cbj second would wet snows whistle I'd be in. One high ceiling low floor player for another. Not interested in giving up NHL talent for a guy who may or may not have what it takes to be a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I don't even know if I'd trade a 2nd by itself for Ho-Sang. He might be a great person in the community, but he's got a ton of baggage on him already as a hockey player. He also hasn't progressed much (if at all) since his draft year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 27 minutes ago, Jägermeister said: I don't even know if I'd trade a 2nd by itself for Ho-Sang. He might be a great person in the community, but he's got a ton of baggage on him already as a hockey player. He also hasn't progressed much (if at all) since his draft year. He played on a much worse team than during his draft year and was their top scorer by 23 points. He scored 1 goal and 3 assists in 5 preseason games, only 3 canucks had more than 3 points. Considering what Benning said and how he has waived Etem, if Ho-Sang was on our team he would have beat Etem, Virtanen, Burrows, Baertschi and many others out of a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I like the idea of finding talent. I also think reclamation projects can work. See Baertschi. I just think where there's smoke there's fire generally and this guy has had a lot of smoke around him for years. I would pass on him and definitely not for Gaunce. I think Gaunce with be a solid long time Canucks and take over from Sutter in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygvard Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I am in general a fan of taking chances of guys with minor "attitude and personality issues". Emphasis on the minor. I wouldn't touch Kane with a 10 foot pole, or anyone that I thought was legitimately a bad person or a menace. But pursuing players who have lower perceived value due to immaturity is a good way to take advantage of a market inefficiency. The personality problems are rarely as serious as they are made out to be. Hockey culture as a whole puts a certain humble mature personality on a pedestal, so it is easy for a normal 20 year old to stand out and seem like some kind of wild child. Most will even out into OK humans. You take a chance at a Kassian, but you also have a chance at a Seguin. And that is pretty good money for most draft picks. All that being said, I remain unsold on Ho Sang. I don't think he has necessarily shown enough on the ice to warrant actively pursuing and coaching him through his personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Again with the giving away Gaunce proposals. I love Gaunce and can't wait to see what he will give as a regular player on this team IMO Ho Sang is trending downwards to less than Yakupov value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead80 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Evander Kane 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaerToBo Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I wouldnt trade much more than a 2nd for him. He does have the talent so for a team like us he's worth taking a flyer on but not at a high price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 No to Ho-Sang as he is not needed on this team and to give up that much for him really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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