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So here is the deal.  I am so tired of all this Megna deal I decided to take a look, especially when I consider that we have Brendan G in the lineup.  So to start, what about Jayson.

- he is 27 years old

- he was undrafted  - suggests limited potential

- last 12 games 0 points.

- doesn't penalty kill; 59 seconds total all year

- shots 51

Stats:   Goals    Assist    Total      +/-

               4            3           7          -4

TOI/GP  12.34

 

Now lets compare him to Gaunce

 

- he is 22 years old

- he was drafted in the first round, suggesting high potential [ he has high hockey IQ and leadership,  . . .can you say Bo mini me.

- last 12 games 1 point

- penalty kills more recently, lots of potential, very sound defensively

- shots 49

Stats:   Goals    Assist    Total      +/-

               0           5           5          0

TOI/GP  9:15

 

So first, lets remember that Gaunce has had his ice time increase in the last few games which distort these stats.  Bottom line, Gaunce provides much better value than Megna in every department.  So the question is, why., when we are suppose to be developing youth are we playing Megna period, let alone ahead of Gaunce?  At least there is some promise in Gaunce and none in Megna.  At least if you play Gaunce WAY ahead of Megna, there is the potential that he will develop more, . . . .none for Megna.

 

A great example of very poor coaching decisions by Willy, for both himself and for the organization.  

 

So lets play Gaunce for another 2 minutes plus a nite, and lets play him with some of the best players on the Canucks.  And let's give him lots of confidents in what he can do.

 

Who do you think performs better.  And that's with a guy that is a rookie and trying to break into the lineup vs. a 27 year old.

 

Willy makes very poor coaching decisions and lineup choices.  There is no logical reason the Megna gets played ahead of Gaunce. That says nothing of the fact the Gaunce is 6'2" and 220 lbs., and Megan is 6'1'' and 195.  And how about hits: Gaunce 92 and leads the team, vs. Megan 66.

 

You can't make this stuff up . . . . !

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Stormriders said:

So here is the deal.  I am so tired of all this Megna deal I decided to take a look, especially when I consider that we have Brendan G in the lineup.  So to start, what about Jayson.

- he is 27 years old

- he was undrafted  - suggests limited potential

- last 12 games 0 points.

- doesn't penalty kill; 59 seconds total all year

- shots 51

Stats:   Goals    Assist    Total      +/-

               4            3           7          -4

TOI/GP  12.34

 

Now lets compare him to Gaunce

 

- he is 22 years old

- he was drafted in the first round, suggesting high potential [ he has high hockey IQ and leadership,  . . .can you say Bo mini me.

- last 12 games 1 point

- penalty kills more recently, lots of potential, very sound defensively

- shots 49

Stats:   Goals    Assist    Total      +/-

               0           5           5          0

TOI/GP  9:15

 

So first, lets remember that Gaunce has had his ice time increase in the last few games which distort these stats.  Bottom line, Gaunce provides much better value than Megna in every department.  So the question is, why., when we are suppose to be developing youth are we playing Megna period, let alone ahead of Gaunce?  At least there is some promise in Gaunce and none in Megna.  At least if you play Gaunce WAY ahead of Megna, there is the potential that he will develop more, . . . .none for Megna.

 

A great example of very poor coaching decisions by Willy, for both himself and for the organization.  

 

So lets play Gaunce for another 2 minutes plus a nite, and lets play him with some of the best players on the Canucks.  And let's give him lots of confidents in what he can do.

 

Who do you think performs better.  And that's with a guy that is a rookie and trying to break into the lineup vs. a 27 year old.

 

Willy makes very poor coaching decisions and lineup choices.  There is no logical reason the Megna gets played ahead of Gaunce. That says nothing of the fact the Gaunce is 6'2" and 220 lbs., and Megan is 6'1'' and 195.  And how about hits: Gaunce 92 and leads the team, vs. Megan 66.

 

You can't make this stuff up . . . . !

 

 

 

 

Would you give any credit to the idea that Gaunce has now played a solid base of games on the 4th line and can now be moved up to a experience some 3rd line play? I would agree that Megna was always a long shot but he has played a number of games as a top 6. His speed and skill level with a nice level of defensive awareness has made that possible. He had a chance but at the end of the day he has to score to stay in the NHL. He will not stay in the NHL as a 4th liner and will be gone after this season. IMHO this season was all about development and evaluation. Megna was never in the long term plans unless he surprised. The successes of this year are many. The steady and careful development of Gaunce is one. Another that many fans laugh at is Chaput. He might hang in as a 4th line center.  

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Willies team

top 3 forward, a  pp specialist and MVP

vancouver best chance at making the playoffs and scoring the last minute goal.

 

rest of the NHL 

fringe nhler 

AHL 3rd liner.

a decent depth guy that could be used sparingly when needed.

has good speed 

 

 

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On 3/6/2017 at 11:36 PM, Stormriders said:

You can't make this stuff up . . . . !

While I appreciate your analysis and not just stomping your feet about Megna without saying much else (like a lot of others seem to have), there's one key drawback with your logic that I can see. Think about Virtanen and how evidently rushed him. Now think about Gaunce. Is it really a good idea to rush Gaunce's minutes for the sake of giving him more ice time?

 

A lot of people want our young prospects to get a lot of minutes, which is great as people obviously care, but I don't think it's necessarily the best option. I think it's good still to shelter the minutes of our rookies. We need them to be reliable for us later on rather than now and rushing them isn't how we get to the later on effectively.

 

I think Megna's merely here to fill a spot for now. He obviously "knows the system" so he's moreover a safe bet than anything else. My prediction is he won't be around in a year or two once our other players develop and more minutes now will not necessarily translate into faster development.

 

I don't think WD is the issue on this team. He did afterall allow for the development of Baertschi and we have a lot of prospects now who are good defensively where they may not be that way otherwise. I think the team's just going through "transitioning pains" and having intermediary players like Megna is a way to fill holes. Remember that we had Virtanen up here to start. Had Virtanen played better I bet Megna would not have played as much (all speculation of course). Would I prefer one of our other prospects up instead of Megna? It would be nice; however, if they are not ready they are not ready.

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3 hours ago, The Lock said:

While I appreciate your analysis and not just stomping your feet about Megna without saying much else (like a lot of others seem to have), there's one key drawback with your logic that I can see. Think about Virtanen and how evidently rushed him. Now think about Gaunce. Is it really a good idea to rush Gaunce's minutes for the sake of giving him more ice time?

 

A lot of people want our young prospects to get a lot of minutes, which is great as people obviously care, but I don't think it's necessarily the best option. I think it's good still to shelter the minutes of our rookies. We need them to be reliable for us later on rather than now and rushing them isn't how we get to the later on effectively.

 

I think Megna's merely here to fill a spot for now. He obviously "knows the system" so he's moreover a safe bet than anything else. My prediction is he won't be around in a year or two once our other players develop and more minutes now will not necessarily translate into faster development.

 

I don't think WD is the issue on this team. He did afterall allow for the development of Baertschi and we have a lot of prospects now who are good defensively where they may not be that way otherwise. I think the team's just going through "transitioning pains" and having intermediary players like Megna is a way to fill holes. Remember that we had Virtanen up here to start. Had Virtanen played better I bet Megna would not have played as much (all speculation of course). Would I prefer one of our other prospects up instead of Megna? It would be nice; however, if they are not ready they are not ready.

I understand what you are saying and I also understand that our lineup is not deep, so people like Megna are inserted as a placeholder for a year or so.  There is one thing to shelter minutes, and another not to give Gaunce a fair opportunity.  I don't think many players can show that much with 6 minutes a night, nor if they are playing with teammates that don't allow them to showcase what their potential is.  To support this, all you have to do is look at how Gaunce has played over the past few games with added responsibility, opportunity, and ice time.  Gaunce is now playing his best hockey of his short NHL career.   

Also I don't think Gaunce is a Virtanen.  He paid his dues in the AHL, is older and developed, brings a very mature game for his age, has a high hockey IQ, works tirelessly, and is very responsible defensively.  I think we will see a lot more out of him if we are lucky enough to keep him through the expansion draft.

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Can we send this guy down already? Time for the young guys to play

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I'm not sure how any sane person looks at Labate and Megna and decides Megna is the NHLer.  He's one of the most useless hockey players I've had the misfortune of seeing in a Canucks jersey.  Just another Andrew Ebbett who can't score in the top 9 and is too soft for the 4th line.

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So it's a one way deal at $675 000 for the season.

 

 

Vancouver, B.C. - Vancouver Canucks General Manager Jim Benning announced today that the club has signed forward Jayson Megna to a one-year, one-way contract extension that will carry a value of $675,000.

"Jayson is a strong skater who has added depth to our forward group," said General Manager Jim Benning. "We value his character and professionalism and are pleased to re-sign him for another year."
 
Megna, 27, has registered eight points (4-4-8) in his first season with the Canucks in 2016.17. His 53 games played on the year are a career-high while his four assists tie a career-high set during the 2013.14 season. The 6-1, 195-pound forward appeared in his 100th career NHL game earlier this season on March 5th at Anaheim. He has also appeared in four games with the AHL Utica Comets this season, registering a goal and two assists (1-2-3).


In 107 career NHL games over parts of four seasons split between Vancouver, New York and Pittsburgh, Megna has collected 20 points (10-10-20) along with 28 penalty minutes. In addition, he has skated in two career NHL playoff games.


A native of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Megna was signed by Vancouver as a free agent on July 1, 2016.

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Signed by Avalanch to a 1 year contract

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