JM_ Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Well, sh!t. I hope WD keeps Hutton-Tanev and Edler-Stecher once AE is back. Assuming Hutton doesn't step on a rake between now and then. The way the D guys are going down I'm expecting them to start getting injured at home now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Hugor Hill said: Time for Tryamkin to step up. He will. I think people are forgetting he's 22 and coming out of the KHL, not WHL or AHL. Compare his progress to Larsen e.g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, richado said: Time for Biega to play enough for expansion draft exposure! Poor little guy. Yeah, I could see a scenario where the Canucks want to protect Sbisa need Biega for the expansion draft. But I would still like to see Subban and maybe Pedan get a shot. And I still think is likely that Sbisa is the guy the Canucks expose. (And he is now eligible as he is over the 70-game threshold for this year and last year combined.) 2 hours ago, Mathew Barzal said: I want to see Subban damnit. Even if he sucks defensively. I agree, at some point Subban has to get some credit for his scoring performance in Utica. 2 hours ago, TheRussianRocket. said: Always hate to see someone out long term so wish him a speedy recovery. On the flip side, hopefully this means Guddy doesn't get a mammoth contract if he won't play much the rest of the season considering how poorly he's looked. I have been worried all along that JB was determined to overpay to re-sign Guddy, like Sutter or Sbisa only worse. Fortunately league rules prevented signing a new deal with him until 2017. GMs are usually very stubborn about remaining committed to players they acquire but even JB has to see that Guddy is not that good. He is big, strong, tough, plays a physical game, makes hits and blocks shots, and has a decent top speed. But he is not quick, does not carry the puck well, pass well, or receive passes well. And his decision-making is not great. Like the analytics said when evaluating the trade, he is maybe a borderline second pairing defensive D or maybe only a 3rd pairing guy on a good team. Based on his play this season it is far from obvious that he is significantly better than Sbisa and it is obvious that he is not as good as Tanev on the right side. And, although they are completely different types of players, I have Stecher ahead of Guddy on the depth chart. Right now, if everyone was healthy, I would have Guddy on the 3rd pairing. I would qualify him for next year ($3.5 million). I doubt if he would get any more than that in arbitration. And, based on his play this year, I would not want to go much if any higher than that long term. Even $4 million per year long term would be pushing it, and that is quite a bit less than he was allegedly asking for in Florida.l. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure2Win Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Playoffs Jim Mora Remix [SD, 854x480p].wmv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Hugor Hill said: Time for Tryamkin to step up. Hello? Look at his play not to mention a team leading plus rating on a team with a sub 500 record. Give your head a shake, Tram stepped up long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomniac604 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Well, I think we all saw this coming. Gud was sub-par considering his role and it was leaked he had been dealing with a wrist issue for a long while Not being able to sit out and heal has led to this. Management has nobody else to blame I firmly believe our top 6 should be ; Edler - Stecher Hutton - Tanev Sbisa - Gudbranson Tryamkin With Sbis and Tryam alternating with Biega until everybody has enough games to get expansion drafted. But we have Tanev back, who has good chemistry and history with Hutton. If/when Edler is back, he's played some good games with Stetch. Sbisa and Tryamkin for, whatever reason, play really well together. At this point I'm not super worried. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 If it's surgery he's out 6-8 weeks depending on severity could be longer. Hope tanev can stay healthy over that time or this team is gonna sink to the bottom faster than the titanic hutton-sbisa tryamkin-stetcher pedan-biega yikes. Plus edler when he comes back and stays healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Lol wow, what a season we're having. Well, we get a good player this summer. That's certain. You know what the real response to losing Guddy should be? Jake Virtanen. We have D-men that can cover for his loss, but not the physicality and intimidation. Yet, in spite of this, I still say the need for Jake to stay down in the A and earn his keep overrides the need for us to fill a void from injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 hours ago, TheRussianRocket. said: Always hate to see someone out long term so wish him a speedy recovery. On the flip side, hopefully this means Guddy doesn't get a mammoth contract if he won't play much the rest of the season considering how poorly he's looked. Could be something that will nag him long term. This is not good. Especially Wrist. If it's long term recovery , I'm assuming its more serious then boeser s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I just bought his hat too. I'm cursed. Let's say that puts him out for 2-3 months, and he isn't great when he comes back. Do we expose him or Sbisa for the expansion draft? I didn't expect to ever ask that, but Sbisa is looking like a capable top 4, while Gudbranson has struggled and is now looking at surgery. You keep Gudbranson, expose Sbisa, and trade Las Vegas a pick for "future considerations" and they take someone like Rodin or Biega. Considering our annual need for defensemen, I really think the Canucks should consider doing that. Barring any other trades, we'll have a top pairing of Edler and Tanev, a second pair of Hutton and Gudbranson, and a bottom pair of Sbisa and Stecher. Pedan and Subban can be the seventh and eighth defensemen, and have Juolevi be a wild card where he can stay in London for his final year if he isn't quite ready for the NHL. EDIT: Forgot about Tryamkin! Edler - Tanev Hutton - Gudbranson Sbisa - Stecher Tryamkin - Subban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I just bought his hat too. I'm cursed. Let's say that puts him out for 2-3 months, and he isn't great when he comes back. Do we expose him or Sbisa for the expansion draft? I didn't expect to ever ask that, but Sbisa is looking like a capable top 4, while Gudbranson has struggled and is now looking at surgery. That's not even a real question to ask. Guds is not an option to leave unprotected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, JamesB said: Yeah, I could see a scenario where the Canucks want to protect Sbisa need Biega for the expansion draft. But I would still like to see Subban and maybe Pedan get a shot. And I still think is likely that Sbisa is the guy the Canucks expose. (And he is now eligible as he is over the 70-game threshold for this year and last year combined.) I agree, at some point Subban has to get some credit for his scoring performance in Utica. I have been worried all along that JB was determined to overpay to re-sign Guddy, like Sutter or Sbisa only worse. Fortunately league rules prevented signing a new deal with him until 2017. GMs are usually very stubborn about remaining committed to players they acquire but even JB has to see that Guddy is not that good. He is big, strong, tough, plays a physical game, makes hits and blocks shots, and has a decent top speed. But he is not quick, does not carry the puck well, pass well, or receive passes well. And his decision-making is not great. Like the analytics said when evaluating the trade, he is maybe a borderline second pairing defensive D or maybe only a 3rd pairing guy on a good team. Based on his play this season it is far from obvious that he is significantly better than Sbisa and it is obvious that he is not as good as Tanev on the right side. And, although they are completely different types of players, I have Stecher ahead of Guddy on the depth chart. Right now, if everyone was healthy, I would have Guddy on the 3rd pairing. I would qualify him for next year ($3.5 million). I doubt if he would get any more than that in arbitration. And, based on his play this year, I would not want to go much if any higher than that long term. Even $4 million per year long term would be pushing it, and that is quite a bit less than he was allegedly asking for in Florida.l. I agree with you , but gud will probably get more then u think ( (unless the injury effects his value long term). Craig Button even said on 1040 last week; he s guna get around 5. Sekeres said that's crazy , and button agreed , but said that's what guys like him are getting. Don't expect 4 mill. He's guna get more , regardless of what we all may think he is worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 if this keeps up we may need an emergency recall for Juolevi at this rate. lol sounds nuts could happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Sittin here on the front porch, pick up the ol' 6 string... Oh Lawd, down so long, I got dem' Roster-Bluues! Wouldn't even ask Bettman, to wear my shooes Turn on the tube, found 3 more gonnnne My dog it died, woman said, "so longggg!" Did u buy it at the five and dime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1. As long as he makes a 100% recovery and is back for next season.. meh 2. Look forward to see what Pedan can do if he's given a chance 3. Hope injuries aren't used as an excuse for something again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Knowing the Canucks, we'll finish last, and draft 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On the bright side, he isn't going to cost us 5M+ to re-sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 That officially means ZERO toughness in the Canucks current line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, RRypien37 said: That officially means ZERO toughness in the Canucks current line up. Unless Pedan actually ends up playing, then we would at least have one heavyweight in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the harry Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I wish him fast recovery, but to be honest, I didn't liked the combination Hutton-Gudbranson. On paper it looked fantastic when the season started, but unfortunately not on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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