Standing_Tall#37 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: To be a seller, you'll need to have something you're willing to sell that buyers will want to buy at a decent price. Given all the NTC's and the NMC's and the injuries and the not-so-good team stats (the Canucks have the THIRD-worst team +/- in the league right now) and the unwillingness to include young players or draft picks, not sure we'll get good prices. We could probably trade burrows, Hansen, Miller and Edler for some 4th and 5th Rd picks. Hell, Miller might even get a 2nd or 3rd Rd. Plus if markstrom started every night, we'd have a pretty good shot at the 3rd/4th pick overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, Standing_Tall#37 said: We could probably trade burrows, Hansen, Miller and Edler for some 4th and 5th Rd picks. Hell, Miller might even get a 2nd or 3rd Rd. Plus if markstrom started every night, we'd have a pretty good shot at the 3rd/4th pick overall. Which would be massive waste of those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 How bad do you want a trade? Will you accept a 7th? A 6th? a 5th? 4th? Or will only 1st or second rounders be acceptable? When it's unclear of what the demand is, and with teams so close in the standings it's hard for a trade to happen. It's easy to say "well we don't want them to walk for nothing..". But what if nothing is what's being offered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Alf has been calling for tfading away guys at TDLs for three years with JB. The first two TDLs and JB did nothing, allowing all our UFAs to leave for zero return. Why should this TDL be any different? The difference this time is a new excuse to add to the pile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Standing_Tall#37 said: We could probably trade burrows, Hansen, Miller and Edler for some 4th and 5th Rd picks. Hell, Miller might even get a 2nd or 3rd Rd. Plus if markstrom started every night, we'd have a pretty good shot at the 3rd/4th pick overall. Edler and Hansen will get you a lot more than 4th or 5th round picks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 In this expansion draft year I don't see a plethora of trades. Every team is wrestling with too many players to protect and not enough protection slots. Why would they trade a pick for a worthwhile player whom they would need to protect, thus dropping one of their own to the Vegas-available list? (Unless he was a pending UFA rental who Vegas can talk to before they can anyway, should they want to keep him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Alflives said: JB might be going for three strikes and he's out at his TDLs. God, just think of all the extra prospects we would have if JB traded away our UFAs at the last two TDLs, and not traded away picks? Could it be 10 or even 20? Realistically 4, best case scenario blah, blah, blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It'd be nice if we were able to trade our pending UFAs and players who are expansion bait a la Sbisa, Edler, etc but if we're getting offered scraps and low end picks like 4ths, 5ths, then there's no point in picking up the phone and doing the deal. Sometimes you're a winner for just staying pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Standing_Tall#37 said: We could probably trade burrows, Hansen, Miller and Edler for some 4th and 5th Rd picks. Hell, Miller might even get a 2nd or 3rd Rd. Plus if markstrom started every night, we'd have a pretty good shot at the 3rd/4th pick overall. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davydgoliath Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Not sure why you threw Gaunce under the bus there OP. The kid has been used on the 4th line exclusively in his first season in the league. Not exactly a bust yet especially considering he had the best corsi for (or whatever the fancy state is) on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, garthsbutcher said: Edler and Hansen will get you a lot more than 4th or 5th round picks! Teams know that Hansen will be exposed for the expansion draft if not traded...we have absolutely no leverage in that situation as for Edler, D-men that finish -20 rarely fit a need. Teams usually don't shop for defenseman that cough up the puck and create more scoring chances against than for.... if that was the case, Edler could have got us a 1st+ quite a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 58 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: WTF? Well that's fantastic? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Alflives said: JB might be going for three strikes and he's out at his TDLs. God, just think of all the extra prospects we would have if JB traded away our UFAs at the last two TDLs, and not traded away picks? Could it be 10 or even 20? You should also consider that we would have more total prospects in our system, but they wouldn't be the "Tryamkins, Demkos, Boesers, and Juolevis". The game-changing quality gems. If it wasn't JB, we would have 20 duds with cool names but no game. Like the "Jensens, Shinkaruks, and Corrados". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Strombone said: You should also consider that we would have more total prospects in our system, but they wouldn't be the "Tryamkins, Demkos, Boesers, and Juolevis". The game-changing quality gems. If it wasn't JB, we would have 20 duds with cool names but no game. Like the "Jensens, Shinkaruks, and Corrados". Easy to overrate our prospects. Canuck fans been doing it for years....... Too early to assess JB picks here. I did notice you did not include Virt in your post though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industrious1 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Canucks history tells us we will add or do nothing. With those options I will take do nothing over parting with our ever slippery and hard to hold onto 2nd round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Edler Hansen Burrows Miller THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz92 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 8 hours ago, Googlie said: In this expansion draft year I don't see a plethora of trades. Every team is wrestling with too many players to protect and not enough protection slots. Why would they trade a pick for a worthwhile player whom they would need to protect, thus dropping one of their own to the Vegas-available list? (Unless he was a pending UFA rental who Vegas can talk to before they can anyway, should they want to keep him) I expect there will be less teams buying this year. Can see Pittsburgh, Chicago, Montreal, San Jose and maybe Anaheim looking to add for a playoff run. Otherwise it should be a little quieter than most years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 10 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: How bad do you want a trade? Will you accept a 7th? A 6th? a 5th? 4th? Or will only 1st or second rounders be acceptable? When it's unclear of what the demand is, and with teams so close in the standings it's hard for a trade to happen. It's easy to say "well we don't want them to walk for nothing..". But what if nothing is what's being offered? Exactly... This the reality. It takes two to tango, and don't think there will be many prepared to pay high for players that is going to get exposed in the expansion draft. Young players however might be at a premium... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefcakeBo Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Realistic outlook is that maybe we trade Burrows for a third and maybe we get lucky and find someone who is willing to pay for Edler or Hansen vs giving them away for free to Vegas. I'm thinking there is a chance that we are going to consider something around Fluery as Miller will be UFA. Like Miller and Hansen for Fluery ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Quote as linden says, we can all make trades in our minds but in real life, you need willing gm's to trade with. we might say that hansen for a 2nd and prospect, but as someone said, if all that is being offered is a 5th round pick, do you do it. i wouldn't. we might lose him for nothing but if benning settled for a 5th for him, cdc would be calling him the worst gm in the league. benning will stick to his plan regardless of what cdc thinks. i for one am glad of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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