HKSR Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 To VAN: Landeskog To COL: Hutton, Baertschi, Hansen VAN does this because of expansion draft reasons. They will lose one of Hansen, Baertschi, or Granlund to LV, but if they move 2 of them for 1 player, that issue is resolved. Sure, the Canucks could move one of them only... but if you can land a player like Landeskog by packaging 2 of them, while resolving the expansion draft issue, why not? COL does this because they get a TON of value coming back for Landeskog. Baertschi is comparable in terms of production while adding good playmaking abilities. Hansen is an amazing versatile 15-20 goal forward that provides a ton of speed and some leadership to the COL group. Hutton is a young up-and-coming dman with plenty of upside (and could help fill the void with Zadorov out for the season). Of note is that Baertschi and Hutton are about the same age as Landeskog, so neither the Canucks, nor the Avs are getting any older from this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven pounds soft Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 No way Jose i like hutdog and Baer to much plus that would be what the kids call an overpayment sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Excellent proposal. Very fair deal. It's painful for us, so it must be fair. I do worry about Landeskog's health though. For him to be effective, he needs to play a robust style, and that means his concussion issues might arise again. Hmmm. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 That's a lot to give up. Especially in terms of good contracts. But I can see the logic and value for both teams with this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misconduct16 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 A - No way I see Hansen waiving to go to Colorado, if he moves it'll be to a team with a chance. B - This does not address ANY of the assets Colorado wants to get for Landeskog - Defenceman with Top pairing potential (Hutton has 2nd pairing potential) - an 'A' prospect (Baertschi is a fringe top 9 roster player) - a first round pick (no picks included at all) While I doubt that Colorado gets exactly what they're asking for in a Landeskog or Duchene trade, I think the Canucks basis for the trade would have to start with Tanev, and if we're going to part with him it better be Duchene coming back. Assuming GMJB decides Landeskog is the one he wants I think this is more along the lines of what Colorado would settle for. Tanev + Brisebois/Zhukenov/Subban + 3rd round pick And if thats what it takes, I'd happily let some other team make the overpayment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Seven pounds soft said: No way Jose i like hutdog and Baer to much plus that would be what the kids call an overpayment sorry Ya Hutton and Sven should be enough, save Hanson for a 1st and prospect from contender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Misconduct16 said: A - No way I see Hansen waiving to go to Colorado, if he moves it'll be to a team with a chance. B - This does not address ANY of the assets Colorado wants to get for Landeskog - Defenceman with Top pairing potential (Hutton has 2nd pairing potential) - an 'A' prospect (Baertschi is a fringe top 9 roster player) - a first round pick (no picks included at all) While I doubt that Colorado gets exactly what they're asking for in a Landeskog or Duchene trade, I think the Canucks basis for the trade would have to start with Tanev, and if we're going to part with him it better be Duchene coming back. Assuming GMJB decides Landeskog is the one he wants I think this is more along the lines of what Colorado would settle for. Tanev + Brisebois/Zhukenov/Subban + 3rd round pick And if thats what it takes, I'd happily let some other team make the overpayment I agree that Hansen wouldn't waive to go to col, but that doesn't mean the return we get for him can't be flipped. Trade Hansen for a 1st round pick. Flip that pick + Hutton + for Landeskog. Still don't see us moving hutton, it doesn't help our position in expansion draft, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Misconduct16 said: A - No way I see Hansen waiving to go to Colorado, if he moves it'll be to a team with a chance. B - This does not address ANY of the assets Colorado wants to get for Landeskog - Defenceman with Top pairing potential (Hutton has 2nd pairing potential) - an 'A' prospect (Baertschi is a fringe top 9 roster player) - a first round pick (no picks included at all) While I doubt that Colorado gets exactly what they're asking for in a Landeskog or Duchene trade, I think the Canucks basis for the trade would have to start with Tanev, and if we're going to part with him it better be Duchene coming back. Assuming GMJB decides Landeskog is the one he wants I think this is more along the lines of what Colorado would settle for. Tanev + Brisebois/Zhukenov/Subban + 3rd round pick And if thats what it takes, I'd happily let some other team make the overpayment I honestly don't think the price for Landeskog is as high as Duchene. Notice how all the media outlets are not even talking about Landeskog. The player teams covet most from the Avs is Duchene. I can accept that Hansen may not waive to goto the Avs, but anything is possible (see ForsbergTheGreat's post above). COL doesn't need RH shooting defencemen. They need a LH shooting one. Tanev would be of no interest to them. On top of that, Hutton doesn't need to be protected in the expansion draft which is a big plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, HKSR said: I honestly don't think the price for Landeskog is as high as Duchene. Notice how all the media outlets are not even talking about Landeskog. The player teams covet most from the Avs is Duchene. I can accept that Hansen may not waive to goto the Avs, but anything is possible (see ForsbergTheGreat's post above). COL doesn't need RH shooting defencemen. They need a LH shooting one. Tanev would be of no interest to them. On top of that, Hutton doesn't need to be protected in the expansion draft which is a big plus. Are teams shying away from Landeskog, because of his concussion history? He's really gone down hill this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Are teams shying away from Landeskog, because of his concussion history? He's really gone down hill this season. Possibly. There's definitely a different price tag on Landeskog vs Duchene. Duchene is definitely the more coveted player at this deadline. There's no way that Landeskog lands anything close to what Duchene's asking price is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVA-1 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I say we forget Colorado altogether as we would have to give up way too much. I think we can do way better deals with teams such as Tampa,Toronto, NYR, NYI, Carolina and Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Colorado would not do this deal...I would,..but the asking price by Sakic is beyond exorbitant...I would say they would ask for Hutton + Our 1st (2017) +Hansen..which is along the lines of what Sakic was asking from Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Honky Cat said: Colorado would not do this deal...I would,..but the asking price by Sakic is beyond exorbitant...I would say they would ask for Hutton + Our 1st (2017) +Hansen..which is along the lines of what Sakic was asking from Ottawa. Hansen is too old - McKenzie says 20 to 24. They want guys who will grow with their new core: Jost, Rantanen and MacKinnon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 52 minutes ago, Alflives said: Are teams shying away from Landeskog, because of his concussion history? He's really gone down hill this season. From when I saw him play, Landeskog still looked good. If we're just talking about pure numbers, other players in that team have also had bad numbers this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, mll said: Hansen is too old - McKenzie says 20 to 24. They want guys who will grow with their new core: Jost, Rantanen and MacKinnon. If Sakic thinks he will get two young roster players (one of them being a D)..and a 1st round pick...He's going to be standing all by himself in a corner,holding the bag..I certainly don't see any Canadian teams doing that kind of deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Honky Cat said: If Sakic thinks he will get two young roster players (one of them being a D)..and a 1st round pick...He's going to be standing all by himself in a corner,holding the bag..I certainly don't see any Canadian teams doing that kind of deal. He has to hit a home run when trading core players. They are willing to be patient because they don't need to make the deal immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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