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On 25/02/2017 at 9:33 AM, janisahockeynut said:

and I believe it has and will continue to cost us until he improves in this area

 

How's this for future forecast:

 

The Adam Gaudette show continued, while Guillaume Brisebois had just as good of a month in the QMHL.

…The Utica Comets went 5-6-1 during February thanks to a 3-0-1 record to close out the month. The Comets are currently sitting at 23-23-9 on the season, three points back of St. John's for the final playoff spot in the North Division with one game in-hand.

Alex Grenier continues to lead the team in scoring with 38 points (15-23-38) in 51 games on the season.

Jordan Subban sits fourth on the team with 29 points (13-16-29) in 46 games. Subban's 13 goals are second among all AHL defencemen.

…February was a good month for defenceman Evan McEneny , who picked up eight points (1-7-8) in 10 games. McEneny has 15 points (5-10-15) in his past 17 games overall.

Joseph Labate returned from injury on February 15 and recorded one assist in six games. Labate also picked up his fifth AHL fighting major of the season.

…All four of the above mentioned players were recently recalled by the Canucks. McEneny made his NHL debut against the Sharks on the February 26.

…February was an up-and-down month for rookie goaltender Thatcher Demko. The 21-year-old twice allowed five goals in a game, but closed out February stopping 27-of-28 and then 30-of-32 in back-to-back games.

…Prior to becoming property of the Canucks, Nikolay Goldobin posted 11 points (5-6-11) in nine games with the San Jose Barracuda. Goldobin will immediately join the Canucks. He is currently three points shy of matching his AHL point total from last season, despite playing 14 less games this time around.

…Across the pond, newly acquired Jonathan Dahlen was named the recipient of the Guldgallret (Golden Cage), which is awarded to the best junior player in Sweden's Allsvenskan league. Dahlen is first among all U20 players and sixth overall in league scoring.

…With 25 goals and 44 points in 45 games with Timra IK this season, Dahlen is the highest scoring junior-aged player ever in the Allsvenskan.

…Moving onto the NCAA, the Adam Gaudette show continued last month as the 20-year-old posted points in seven-of-eight games, netting a total of 12 points (10-2-12) in that span.

…Gaudette's season has been nothing short of spectacular. He has points in 26-of-33 games. He leads all sophomore's in the NCAA with 51 points (25-26-51) in 33 games, which also places him tied for sixth among all NCAA skaters. His 25 goals sit third in the entire NCAA, with the only two players ahead of him being seniors.

…Here comes Brock? With six points (2-4-6) in his last five games, Brock Boeser has put together his best stretch since early January when he first returned from wrist surgery.

…In the WHL, Jakob Stukel posted eight points (5-3-8) in 13 games with the Calgary Hitmen last month. He is now up to 46 points (21-25-46) in 61 games. The Hitmen are currently clinging to the final wild card spot in the Eastern Conference, just two points up on Saskatoon.

Tate Olson and the Prince George Cougars have clinched a playoff spot in the Western Conference. The Cougars currently sit first in the B.C. Division with a 40-20-5 record, three points up on Kamloops. The 19-year-old defenceman has netted 24 points (7-17-24) in 60 games this season.

…Working our way east, Olli Juolevi picked up six points in 12 games for the London Knights last month, moving his season total to 39 points (8-31-39) in 49 games. The Knights are currently second overall in the OHL with a 40-12-7 record.

Brett McKenzie and the North Bay Battalion are in a battle for the final playoff spot in the OHL's Eastern Conference. McKenzie, who tallied five goals in February, has 61 points (27-34-61) through 58 games this season.

…Over in the QMJHL, Carl Neill had a nine-points (2-7-9) in 11-game month, giving him 61 points (13-48-61) in 58 games this season. Those 61 points rank him second among all QMJHL defencemen.

…Neill's teammate on Charlottetown, Guillaume Brisebois had a remarkable month of February. In 11 games, he registered 16 points (2-14-16) and was a plus-16. He's now up to 40 points (7-33-40) in 52 games this season. Brisebois is now in a tie for eighth in scoring among QMJHL blue-liners.

…Charlottetown currently has the second-best record in the QMJHL.

Rodrigo Abols had 11 points (3-8-11) in 12 games with Acadie-Bathurst during the month of February, bringing his season total to 44 points (15-29-44) in 44 games.

Dmitry Zhukenov had his fifth straight double-digit points month with 11 (3-8-11) in 11 games with Chicoutimi, giving him 57 points (15-42-57) in 64 games.

What's on in March?

…For those with Shaw TV, Jacob Stukel and the Calgary Hitmen will be featured on March 8 against Saskatoon, while Tate Olson and Prince George Cougars will be on March 17 against the Kamloops Blazers.

Olli Juolevi and the London Knights will be featured nationwide on Sportsnet 360 twice coming up. First up, March 4 against Windsor, and then again on March 9 against Guelph.

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On Thursday, March 02, 2017 at 4:19 PM, gino#29 said:

JB took a lot of flack last year for not making any trades at the TDL,i think GM's were trying to fleece him last year because he's new at GM.by holding out last year it paid off huge this year.thank you james brown. 

Or.  Ownership nixed the deal he had worked out with Dallas. It was reported that Dallas thought they had a trade in place but Benning got instructions from aqualini to up the price. Dallas then went to Calgary and Russell. 

 

Either he planned to hold or ownership interferred.  But it can't be both

 

I'm glad to see Benning learning on the job and am willing to consider the role ownership had in hamstringing him.  But I don't prescribe to last year playing a part to getting us Dahlen. Different market.  Different circumstances. 

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The best thing Benning did at the deadline was get ED exempt players. It's funny that even the biggest Benning haters are liking what he did.

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11 hours ago, DSVII said:

Or.  Ownership nixed the deal he had worked out with Dallas. It was reported that Dallas thought they had a trade in place but Benning got instructions from aqualini to up the price. Dallas then went to Calgary and Russell. 

 

Either he planned to hold or ownership interferred.  But it can't be both

the last time ownership did this it cost the canucks gretzky.pat quinn had a deal in place for gretzky and john macaw the cell phone idiot demanded quinn get him signed that night,this annoyed gretzky and he went elsewhere.the aqualini's could learn a lot from the griffith's.that family was pure class and would hire people they could trust and wouldn't interfere with the hockey operations,they'd hire people like pat quinn.that was the golden age for the canucks,the rest has been downhill and it reflects on the owners and the rest of the greedy NHL.don't forget about the feud with dallas's owner,that directly affected that trade with hammer.   

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14 hours ago, hearditall said:

 

How's this for future forecast:

 

The Adam Gaudette show continued, while Guillaume Brisebois had just as good of a month in the QMHL.

…The Utica Comets went 5-6-1 during February thanks to a 3-0-1 record to close out the month. The Comets are currently sitting at 23-23-9 on the season, three points back of St. John's for the final playoff spot in the North Division with one game in-hand.

Alex Grenier continues to lead the team in scoring with 38 points (15-23-38) in 51 games on the season.

Jordan Subban sits fourth on the team with 29 points (13-16-29) in 46 games. Subban's 13 goals are second among all AHL defencemen.

…February was a good month for defenceman Evan McEneny , who picked up eight points (1-7-8) in 10 games. McEneny has 15 points (5-10-15) in his past 17 games overall.

Joseph Labate returned from injury on February 15 and recorded one assist in six games. Labate also picked up his fifth AHL fighting major of the season.

…All four of the above mentioned players were recently recalled by the Canucks. McEneny made his NHL debut against the Sharks on the February 26.

…February was an up-and-down month for rookie goaltender Thatcher Demko. The 21-year-old twice allowed five goals in a game, but closed out February stopping 27-of-28 and then 30-of-32 in back-to-back games.

…Prior to becoming property of the Canucks, Nikolay Goldobin posted 11 points (5-6-11) in nine games with the San Jose Barracuda. Goldobin will immediately join the Canucks. He is currently three points shy of matching his AHL point total from last season, despite playing 14 less games this time around.

…Across the pond, newly acquired Jonathan Dahlen was named the recipient of the Guldgallret (Golden Cage), which is awarded to the best junior player in Sweden's Allsvenskan league. Dahlen is first among all U20 players and sixth overall in league scoring.

…With 25 goals and 44 points in 45 games with Timra IK this season, Dahlen is the highest scoring junior-aged player ever in the Allsvenskan.

…Moving onto the NCAA, the Adam Gaudette show continued last month as the 20-year-old posted points in seven-of-eight games, netting a total of 12 points (10-2-12) in that span.

…Gaudette's season has been nothing short of spectacular. He has points in 26-of-33 games. He leads all sophomore's in the NCAA with 51 points (25-26-51) in 33 games, which also places him tied for sixth among all NCAA skaters. His 25 goals sit third in the entire NCAA, with the only two players ahead of him being seniors.

…Here comes Brock? With six points (2-4-6) in his last five games, Brock Boeser has put together his best stretch since early January when he first returned from wrist surgery.

…In the WHL, Jakob Stukel posted eight points (5-3-8) in 13 games with the Calgary Hitmen last month. He is now up to 46 points (21-25-46) in 61 games. The Hitmen are currently clinging to the final wild card spot in the Eastern Conference, just two points up on Saskatoon.

Tate Olson and the Prince George Cougars have clinched a playoff spot in the Western Conference. The Cougars currently sit first in the B.C. Division with a 40-20-5 record, three points up on Kamloops. The 19-year-old defenceman has netted 24 points (7-17-24) in 60 games this season.

…Working our way east, Olli Juolevi picked up six points in 12 games for the London Knights last month, moving his season total to 39 points (8-31-39) in 49 games. The Knights are currently second overall in the OHL with a 40-12-7 record.

Brett McKenzie and the North Bay Battalion are in a battle for the final playoff spot in the OHL's Eastern Conference. McKenzie, who tallied five goals in February, has 61 points (27-34-61) through 58 games this season.

…Over in the QMJHL, Carl Neill had a nine-points (2-7-9) in 11-game month, giving him 61 points (13-48-61) in 58 games this season. Those 61 points rank him second among all QMJHL defencemen.

…Neill's teammate on Charlottetown, Guillaume Brisebois had a remarkable month of February. In 11 games, he registered 16 points (2-14-16) and was a plus-16. He's now up to 40 points (7-33-40) in 52 games this season. Brisebois is now in a tie for eighth in scoring among QMJHL blue-liners.

…Charlottetown currently has the second-best record in the QMJHL.

Rodrigo Abols had 11 points (3-8-11) in 12 games with Acadie-Bathurst during the month of February, bringing his season total to 44 points (15-29-44) in 44 games.

Dmitry Zhukenov had his fifth straight double-digit points month with 11 (3-8-11) in 11 games with Chicoutimi, giving him 57 points (15-42-57) in 64 games.

What's on in March?

…For those with Shaw TV, Jacob Stukel and the Calgary Hitmen will be featured on March 8 against Saskatoon, while Tate Olson and Prince George Cougars will be on March 17 against the Kamloops Blazers.

Olli Juolevi and the London Knights will be featured nationwide on Sportsnet 360 twice coming up. First up, March 4 against Windsor, and then again on March 9 against Guelph.

Wow, that's a lot of failing. ;)

 

Nice post! The future can't get here soon enough. 

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14 hours ago, hearditall said:

 

 

…Across the pond, newly acquired Jonathan Dahlen was named the recipient of the Guldgallret (Golden Cage), which is awarded to the best junior player in Sweden's Allsvenskan league. Dahlen is first among all U20 players and sixth overall in league scoring.

…With 25 goals and 44 points in 45 games with Timra IK this season, Dahlen is the highest scoring junior-aged player ever in the Allsvenskan.

 

Nice to see all the success from Canuck prospects.  Good work Jim.  

 

Look at Dahlen's season, impressive.

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On 25/02/2017 at 9:33 AM, janisahockeynut said:

I am not concerned with Benning's drafting, as his early 1st round choices have been average at worst, and those picks by and large are still on the vine......no panic there! His picks in the later rounds have been stellar and his signing of NCAA free agents has been solid, so far.

 

His trading has been, average, but not bad, as we have picked up some good players in Baer and Granlund, while acquiring some duds in Vey and Clendenning(sp?), the Gudbranson trade is too early to tell as he has not put in a full season and McCann hasn't exactly lit it up.....let's wait and see on that on, no point panicking.....

 

Where Benning really falls down IMO, is in his evaluation of his teams chances of making the playoffs at the end of December and through January........this is the time where Benning should have a good amount of time to evaluate his team and the teams around him. By waiting and hoping for miracles, he let's teams fall away from the Playoff race and out of trading contention. The TDL is only a date in the sand and should not be the deciding factor in moving players. If they are to be moved at all.

 

Miller to Dallas would have been a option earlier on, before Dallas continued to tail spin, Miller to LA would have been an option before Budaj showed his wares......

 

I am not saying that they should have been moved that early, only that Benning's comments during those days, dis-clude this as an option, as he honestly sounded as if he thought we had a chance at the playoffs........something no one else honestly thought......he needs to improve on this weakness.

 

We shall see how this week turns out, but this is a concern of mine......and I believe it has and will continue to cost us until he improves in this area

How did things work out Janis?

Miller has been a HUGE PLUS by KEEPING him rather than trading him away at the beginning of the season like U say...That would've made it a great year for developing how to Lose...

 

Wasn't Goldy & Dahlen enough for buy out candidate a year ago & Hansen?

 

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9 hours ago, hearditall said:

How did things work out Janis?

Things seem pretty on course with what Janis said.

 

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On 2/25/2017 at 9:40 AM, Iced Canucks said:

My main area of concern (and I'm sure this has been repeated multiple times) is ownership. If Benning and company are truly confined to the means of ownership, how much blame can you really put on the guy.

 

That being said, I've been a Benning fan since day one, and although at times he looks clueless in front of a camera, I still trust in his abilities to lead the Canucks going forward. 

That's %100 speculation and always garbage IMO. 

 

Here's some facts... 
- Aquaman doesn't care about selling playoff tickets this year to pay his bills. He inherited such a big empire from daddy and all his real estate has gone through the roof... his company makes enough bread. 

- Aquaman is actually a fan of the team... mainly he bought it as a reason to show off to his elite friends but still he is a fan of the team and wants us to succeed long term

- If he wants long term success, why would he interfere in hopes of selling tickets for Game 3 and 4 of the first round... possibly a Game 6 at most? When he knows his team is better off left in the hands of hockey minds to do as they see rightful 

- He is not a hockey mind and trusts who he employs 

- All speculation that Aquaman wants to see his team always make the playoffs and get KO'd in first round is dumb. It makes no difference to his pocket and this is a long term investment 

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9 hours ago, DSVII said:

Things seem pretty on course with what Janis said.

 

Just asking seeing that we aren't allowed to make up any NEW Threads on WD yet it's Ghost Town in all of the Past ones including this JB OLD THREAD of Failures??? ..,

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3 hours ago, apollo said:

That's %100 speculation and always garbage IMO. 

 

Here's some facts... 
- Aquaman doesn't care about selling playoff tickets this year to pay his bills. He inherited such a big empire from daddy and all his real estate has gone through the roof... his company makes enough bread. 

- Aquaman is actually a fan of the team... mainly he bought it as a reason to show off to his elite friends but still he is a fan of the team and wants us to succeed long term

- If he wants long term success, why would he interfere in hopes of selling tickets for Game 3 and 4 of the first round... possibly a Game 6 at most? When he knows his team is better off left in the hands of hockey minds to do as they see rightful 

- He is not a hockey mind and trusts who he employs 

- All speculation that Aquaman wants to see his team always make the playoffs and get KO'd in first round is dumb. It makes no difference to his pocket and this is a long term investment 

Apollo of all the times i slagged you for being such a Lui homeboy, this post totally redeems you! 

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29 minutes ago, Westcoasting said:

Apollo of all the times i slagged you for being such a Lui homeboy, this post totally redeems you! 

Lui is past his best before date... Miller is the GOAT! 

 

Well until he leaves in free agency and we get a new goalie lol! 

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14 hours ago, hearditall said:

How did things work out Janis?

Miller has been a HUGE PLUS by KEEPING him rather than trading him away at the beginning of the season like U say...That would've made it a great year for developing how to Lose...

 

Wasn't Goldy & Dahlen enough for buy out candidate a year ago & Hansen?

 

I have not got the foggiest idea of what you are talking about...........no one said the "beginning" of the season, only "earlier on"......one month...maybe a month and a half, does not take you to the "beginning " on the season............

 

Now, you are entitled to your opinion, but I have believed that we do not have the offensive talent to have gotten into the playoffs this year, and most hockey educated GM's,  hockey writers, and sports annalists, said the very same thing! It wasn't hard to see the decline in the Sedin's.......

 

If you are angry, I am sorry.....but I knew this years out come, but to be honest....I thought they would get 82 points this season, because of Ericksson.........but that didn't work out.........but in his place Miller stood on his ears, and kept us from where we really should have been this year.....pretty much right beside Colorado.......or at least not far off

 

So Miller a month and a half before the TDL, might have brought us a great return.......but I am pretty ok with keeping him, even at the loss of a good prospect or pick.....I am not bothered, but man you seem to be! 

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8 hours ago, DSVII said:

Things seem pretty on course with what Janis said.

 

Just asked a Q?  holy moly...:P

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Benning is doing a good job and building a decent prospect pool.  As far as the Loui signing - no picks given up and nobody traded.  That signing was worth the shot even at the big money given.  Loui gets a bad rap but he is a versatile player with a good 200 foot game.  It's only been one year.  I think we'll see an improvement next year in Loui's point total.

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On 4 March, 2017 at 0:02 AM, DSVII said:

Or.  Ownership nixed the deal he had worked out with Dallas. It was reported that Dallas thought they had a trade in place but Benning got instructions from aqualini to up the price. Dallas then went to Calgary and Russell. 

 

Either he planned to hold or ownership interferred.  But it can't be both

 

I'm glad to see Benning learning on the job and am willing to consider the role ownership had in hamstringing him.  But I don't prescribe to last year playing a part to getting us Dahlen. Different market.  Different circumstances. 

I do think that last years debacle played a big part in landing Dahlen. The 3 biggest returns in trades for depth forwards this deadline I feel were Hanzal, Burrows and Hansen. I think getting burned on deadline day had Benning finalize deals earlier this year. Minnesota payed a big price for Hanzal and set a sellers market that dried up on deadline day. If Benning waited on Burrows for a deadline day deal I don't think we're looking at the same return. He was proactive and got it done this year finding us great value for our future.

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7 hours ago, hearditall said:

Just asking seeing that we aren't aloud to make up any NEW Threads on WD yet it's Ghost Town in all of the Past ones including this JB OLD THREAD of Failures??? ..,

allowed

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2 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

allowed

 

ohh U are the school teacher Janisnut?

there got auto incorrect off now. That should fix it.

Thx, Ms, Janis...(had a crush on u in highschool, but don't tell know one)..:wub:

 

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Just now, hearditall said:

 

ohh U are the school teacher Janisnut?

 

Sorry.........I hate people that spell check too!:wacko:

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