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Just now, Ray_Cathode said:

And now has his second.  5 and 6 tonight.... so far.

Dahlen is developing a stronger body, and getting used to the speed of the smaller ice game.  Is he up before the TDL?

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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Dahlen is developing a stronger body, and getting used to the speed of the smaller ice game.  Is he up before the TDL?

no

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Palmu was also having a very effective game, but heven’t seen him much due to a bunch of penalties. Springfield seems to be having some kind of meltdown taking all kinds of dumb donkey penalties. 

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On 12/4/2018 at 10:25 AM, mll said:

 

Dorion is a pretty good scout himself - he is the one that pushed the Senators to draft Erik Karlsson.  He comes from a scouting family and climbed the ranks starting as a scout up to GM - just like Benning did.  They do have differing opinions on Dahlen.  At the trade Dorion told Le Droit that they didn't think Dahlen would become an impact player in the NHL while Benning thinks he's a blue chip prospect.  No one knows today who will end up being right down the road.  

 

Wasn't Erik Karlsson pretty highly touted before the draft?


Karlsson is a franchise defenceman, which OTT lucked out on (or did), but it wasn't like Karlsson was a diamond in the rough.

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2 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

And now has his second.  5 and 6 tonight.... so far.

should be a point per game so for his last 7 games or so.  Now he is starting to pick it up.

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2 hours ago, Dazzle said:

Wasn't Erik Karlsson pretty highly touted before the draft?


Karlsson is a franchise defenceman, which OTT lucked out on (or did), but it wasn't like Karlsson was a diamond in the rough.

He was 15th overall...drafted 5 spots after Cody Hodgson.

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Great game by Dahlén last night. Was getting a little concerned about his struggles adapting to the N.A. game but it looks like he's finally finding his comfort level and confidence. 

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Watched Utica for the first time last night. Strange game from Springfield. Dahlen looked great, McEneny was impressive and I thought Jasek and even Palmu looked great !

 

Re an earlier comment on Erik Karlsson's draft expectations ( did Ottawa 'reach' to pick him ? ), here's the 'MyDraft' rankings from 2008 http://www.mynhldraft.com/2008-NHL-Mock-Draft/

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I am very, very confident Dahlen will be in the NHL by, at the very latest, the end of the 2019/2020 season. And he will be a top 6 scorer

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54 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said:

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.....and don't overlook Tortorella's 2min man, Zac Dalpe ! ( one other draftee with 'nuck links....Jacob Markstrom @ 24 ! )

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13 hours ago, Dazzle said:

Wasn't Erik Karlsson pretty highly touted before the draft?


Karlsson is a franchise defenceman, which OTT lucked out on (or did), but it wasn't like Karlsson was a diamond in the rough.

Don't know.

 

Central scouting had him as 5th European skater just ahead of Josi who went in the 2nd round. Just looking at some mock drafts of that time - he was projected to go late in the 1st.  Sbisa, DelZotto were ranked ahead of him as per above.

 

There was a documentary from a few years ago on him being drafted.  The draft was in Ottawa and they had moved up to 15th overall so fans were even more impatient for the pick (*). They announced his name and the crowd was stunned and wondering who he was.  He was undersized and there were questions on his ability to defend.

 

(*) The pick was Nashville's which is kind of ironic in hindsight given their success at finding Ds - they moved back to 18th overall for a 3rd round pick in 2009.  They picked goalie Chet Pickard with 18th overall - he never played in the NHL.   The 3rd round pick the following year became Taylor Beck who played a season for them and is no longer in the league - he didn't reach a 100 NHL games.

 

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Karlsson was a giant question mark in his draft year. He was extremely highly touted but there were massive questions about his commitment to defence. He was the quintessential boom-or-bust prospect. He’s one of the few that panned out though.

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4 hours ago, Bitter Melon said:

Karlsson was a giant question mark in his draft year. He was extremely highly touted but there were massive questions about his commitment to defence. He was the quintessential boom-or-bust prospect. He’s one of the few that panned out though.

Alot like Merkley last year without the attitude problems.

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21 hours ago, Alflives said:

Dahlen is developing a stronger body, and getting used to the speed of the smaller ice game.  Is he up before the TDL?

Yes...but due too the TDL...as in we trade ...say Shaller and Granlund and bring up Dahlen and MacEwen...within a few weeks they will be more valuable than the 2 they replaced.

 

Maybe we can get Erikkson going again...playing with EP maybe... and then find some team who needs to get to the salary floor for next year...

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Just now, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

Yes...but due too the TDL...as in we trade ...say Shaller and Granlund and bring up Dahlen and MacEwen...within a few weeks they will be more valuable than the 2 they replaced.

 

Maybe we can get Erikkson going again...playing with EP maybe... and then find some team who needs to get to the salary floor for next year...

I’d love for us to (somehow) dump Loui.  Salary floor bottom dwelling US suck the league dry markets don’t want to pay any salary.  I think Loui’s contract still pays him pretty good money, doesn’t it?  

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

I’d love for us to (somehow) dump Loui.  Salary floor bottom dwelling US suck the league dry markets don’t want to pay any salary.  I think Loui’s contract still pays him pretty good money, doesn’t it?  

Without looking....generally I am too lazy to look things up....I do remember that he has a declining salary and so next year and beyond should go down...maybe under $4M next year and only $2-3 M the next 2.

So cheapish salary but a $6M cap hit for those sucky US teams that can't make it to the floor....

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