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Id prefer this guy at LW just like Nylander. I wanna draft a centreman this year in either Patrick hischier vilardi or Mittelstadt. He's definitely top 6 potential 

 

 

IMO we still need that 1st line centre and LW 

 

LW C Boeser 

Dahlen Horvat virtanen 

Baertschi gaudette Granlund 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

 

I should clarify: I meant he could be similar to Granlund in terms of potential impact on the team. Dahlen definitely plays a more offensive game compared to Granlund's 2 way game. I was talking about how I think Dahlin could be a good middle 6 guy like Granlund. It was my fault, I should have specified. My apologies.

 

You bring up some good points on Dahlen though. For me, the biggest thing is his skating. He doesn't have to be elite, but I think he should definitely work on it extensively over the next 1-2 years. He seems to have good instincts on the attack, but I think he could take advantage of more if his skating improves.

 

I'm curious, how do you see our prospect pool looking? I'm thinking something along the lines of:

 

_______ - _______ - Boeser

Baertschi - Horvat - _______

Dahlen - Gaudette - Virtanen

Granlund - Gaunce - Lockwood

 

Juolevi - Gudbranson

Hutton - Tanev (only vet)

Tryamkin - Stetcher

Brisebois

 

Demko

Markstrom

 

That looks like some solid depth, especially if we can find a better center than Horvat. If not, then we deploy him as our 1C.

I honestly don't see Granlund, Gaunce, and Baertschi with us in the near future but that's just me.  I can see Horvat being a Bergeron type number 1 center but if we end up with Patrick/Hischier, I think it really makes things interesting. But we're missing a first line LW and a bonafide defenceman. And the only way we can achieve that is by drafting. There's also the coveted number one collegiate forward Aston-Reese who would be a great fit in the top 6 and accelerate the rebuild.

 

_____-Horvat-Boeser

Aston-Reese-_____-Lockwood

Dahlen-Sutter-Virtanen

Labate-Gaudette-Grenier

 

Would be nice to have a big center down the middle and a PWF beside a two-way forward and a sniper. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Odd. said:

I honestly don't see Granlund, Gaunce, and Baertschi with us in the near future but that's just me.  I can see Horvat being a Bergeron type number 1 center but if we end up with Patrick/Hischier, I think it really makes things interesting. But we're missing a first line LW and a bonafide defenceman. And the only way we can achieve that is by drafting. There's also the coveted number one collegiate forward Aston-Reese who would be a great fit in the top 6 and accelerate the rebuild.

 

_____-Horvat-Boeser

Aston-Reese-_____-Lockwood

Dahlen-Sutter-Virtanen

Labate-Gaudette-Grenier

 

Would be nice to have a big center down the middle and a PWF beside a two-way forward and a sniper. 

 

 

 

Playing Horvat as our 1C definitely isn't terrible, but I would hope that we are able to land an offensive catalyst who can put up points ahead of Horvat. That would give us a 1-2 punch similar to the one we had in 2011 with Henrik and Kesler. I've maintained that he could be our 1C for a while, and I think your right on the potential Bergeron level impact (personally, I think his playstyle if more similar to a stronger, less agile Toews).

 

I think your also right in assuming that all of Granlund, Gaunce and Baertschi won't be here long term.

 

I haven't read up on Aston-Reese, but everyone seems to be going crazy for him. If we can land him then we are for sure better.

 

Personally, I think if we land a 1C like Patrick or Hischier, the need for a top line LW goes down a bit as the center will be the one driving that line. We could then just pick up a piece to compliment him and build with depth.

 

Who knows, maybe if we land that 1C Dahlen could be the one playing with him ::D

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16 minutes ago, Odd. said:

I honestly don't see Granlund, Gaunce, and Baertschi with us in the near future but that's just me.  I can see Horvat being a Bergeron type number 1 center but if we end up with Patrick/Hischier, I think it really makes things interesting. But we're missing a first line LW and a bonafide defenceman. And the only way we can achieve that is by drafting. There's also the coveted number one collegiate forward Aston-Reese who would be a great fit in the top 6 and accelerate the rebuild.

 

_____-Horvat-Boeser

Aston-Reese-_____-Lockwood

Dahlen-Sutter-Virtanen

Labate-Gaudette-Grenier

 

Would be nice to have a big center down the middle and a PWF beside a two-way forward and a sniper. 

 

 

Slow down on the Reece top 6 talk. I've watched a handful of gaudettes games and yeah Reece is good but he's also a senior playing with 2 pretty solid line mates. Reece plays an NHL style game and he's a free prospect, that's why he's such a hot commodity, mostly because he's free. 

 

Definitely with you on the gaunce grandlund baertchi being part of the future. I think grandlund sticks around but I could see gaunce and baertchi gone, not that soon but 3 4 years down the road I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were gone 

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6 hours ago, Emmetts said:

Center eh. Hoping for a winger for horvat but i guess another center works. 

probably C or LW

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49 minutes ago, Odd. said:

I honestly don't see Granlund, Gaunce, and Baertschi with us in the near future but that's just me.  I can see Horvat being a Bergeron type number 1 center but if we end up with Patrick/Hischier, I think it really makes things interesting. But we're missing a first line LW and a bonafide defenceman. And the only way we can achieve that is by drafting. There's also the coveted number one collegiate forward Aston-Reese who would be a great fit in the top 6 and accelerate the rebuild.

 

_____-Horvat-Boeser

Aston-Reese-_____-Lockwood

Dahlen-Sutter-Virtanen

Labate-Gaudette-Grenier

 

Would be nice to have a big center down the middle and a PWF beside a two-way forward and a sniper. 

 

 

Granlund is and will continue to be a top 6 forward with elite potential 

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(2017 1st) Horvat Boesser 

Granlund  Dahlen Lockwood

Beartchi  Gaudette Virtanen

Magna   Sutter  Skille

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Okay, so just a bit of perspective before we slot him into the top line:

 

He's playing with Timrå IK in the HockeyAllsvenskan which is the Swedish second division (has failed to re-qualify to the first division since 2013). Furthermore, Timrå has produced only two NHL star caliber players that I can see (Zetterberg and Mats Naslund). 

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2 minutes ago, guntrix said:

Okay, so just a bit of perspective before we slot him into the top line:

 

He's playing with Timrå IK in the HockeyAllsvenskan which is the Swedish second division (has failed to re-qualify to the first division since 2013). Furthermore, Timrå has produced only two NHL star caliber players that I can see (Zetterberg and Mats Naslund). 

Okay, if this guy is as good as either Zetterberg or Naslund we friggin win, right?  

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51 minutes ago, manroth19 said:

Slow down on the Reece top 6 talk. I've watched a handful of gaudettes games and yeah Reece is good but he's also a senior playing with 2 pretty solid line mates. Reece plays an NHL style game and he's a free prospect, that's why he's such a hot commodity, mostly because he's free. 

 

Definitely with you on the gaunce grandlund baertchi being part of the future. I think grandlund sticks around but I could see gaunce and baertchi gone, not that soon but 3 4 years down the road I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were gone 

You could also argue that he makes his linemates Gaudette and Sikura better. Just look at their point totals from last year and compare them to this year. He really is a difference maker in most of their games. Again, all I'm doing is reiterating what actual scouts and professionals say. And what they are saying is pretty darn good.

 

As well, take a look at NYR, Washington, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, etc. Their top 9 is interchangeable with everyone other than Ovechkin, Backstrom, and Toews moved around depending on different circumstances.  NYR and Minnesota would be a better example of players in the top 9 basically moved around and yet all have consistent chemistry with one another. 

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Here's the translation of his interview with the Swedish media:

Jonathan Dahlen picked up the phone after the game against Västervik.

And got a shock. Hundreds of new followers welcomed him to the Vancouver Canucks - who swapped him of Ottawa Senators .

- It's insane. I really had no idea, he says. 

Jonathan Dahlen has made great success in Timra, and is predicted to be hot quarry SHL clubs for next season.

The Ottawa Senators have also been seen as a potential new club address - until late Monday evening.

When it became clear that the Senators, who drafted 19-year-old last summer, traded Dahlen for Vancouver's alternate captain Alexandre Burrows, Dahlen could not believe his eyes when he picked up the phone after losing the match against Västervik.

- I got a shock and still has not really sunk in.I read it just now. I had received hundreds of new followers on Twitter and a lot of notices where people welcomed me to the Vancouver Canucks. It is totally sick, says Jonathan Dahlen. 

Dreaming of games with Sedins

The forward has 24 goals for the Hockey Allsvenskan season and must now change about in their dreams.

Instead of gambling with Erik Karlsson in the Canadian capital of Ottawa can now be gambling with the brothers Daniel and Henrik Sedin at the other end of the country.

- It would be crazy to play with them. I guess that's what I'm going to dream about in the future.

Vancouver traded their assistant captain to pick up you?

- Yes, what can I say ... it feels so clear and fun, they seem to believe in me in Vancouver, says Jonathan Dahlen.

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17 minutes ago, Odd. said:

You could also argue that he makes his linemates Gaudette and Sikura better. Just look at their point totals from last year and compare them to this year. He really is a difference maker in most of their games. Again, all I'm doing is reiterating what actual scouts and professionals say. And what they are saying is pretty darn good.

 

As well, take a look at NYR, Washington, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, etc. Their top 9 is interchangeable with everyone other than Ovechkin, Backstrom, and Toews moved around depending on different circumstances.  NYR and Minnesota would be a better example of players in the top 9 basically moved around and yet all have consistent chemistry with one another. 

He doesn't play on the same line as Sikura and Gaudette. They play together but Aston Reese plays on a different line, 5v5 anyhow

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Just now, J-Dizzle said:

Notably..... the loss of Jared McCann has been rectified :o 

Who?  B)

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I wonder if this is foreshadowing that JB is looking to draft Pettersson unless of course by some miracle we draft top 5. Would be pretty neat to get those 2 they seem to have great chem. 

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A lot of people give Craig Button unwarranted criticism because some of the time his analysis of our overrated prospects from the really thin days stung a lot of people. In my opinion he is right up there the Bobby Mackenzie, maybe even better in his Jr player evaluation. He seems to be more emotionally invested and passionate. This interview is exactly why I have always valued his opinion. It's full of passion and honesty. 

 

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410/button-dahlen-knows-how-to-score-and-will-do-it-in-nhl-1.682826

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26 minutes ago, hammertime said:

I wonder if this is foreshadowing that JB is looking to draft Pettersson unless of course by some miracle we draft top 5. Would be pretty neat to get those 2 they seem to have great chem. 

I honestly would not like a line with that size in the NHL as our go to line. They will just get thrown around out there. We need skill yes, but we cannot forgo size and truculence if we want to win in the playoffs. 

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1 minute ago, HomeBrew said:

I honestly would not like a line with that size in the NHL as our go to line. They will just get thrown around out there. We need skill yes, but we cannot forgo size and truculence if we want to win in the playoffs. 

Pettersson is 6'2" their kids they fill out. Dahlen will likely be 190 and Petterson 200lbs by the time they are 23

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1 minute ago, hammertime said:

Pettersson is 6'2" their kids they fill out. Dahlen will likely be 190 and Petterson 200lbs by the time they are 23

Well he's listed as 150 now and looks like a toothpick. No thanks. 

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