BenMaverick84 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 As per GMJB on 1040, They're looking for a centre or PP D-Man. With where we stand now, The Canucks may end up top 3. If, Theoretically Colorado gets 1st over all and the Canucks end up 3rd, There may be a chance for the Canucks to move up. If the Canucks trade the 3rd Overall + a D-Man to Colorado, Who's been said to be looking for defence in the draft. Arizona would hypothetically draft 2nd and are rumoured to be looking for a center as well. So the Canucks trade up to first to take Patrick 1st overall, Arizona would take a center, (Hirscher) leaving Colorado first pick of the defenceman litter, Possibly Liljegren this of course Is all dependant on the Canucks actually getting 3rd in the draft lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 It depends if Benning actually values the PP D-man or the Center higher. He's already commented that the top end this year isn't nearly as strong as other years, so he may not consider Patrick or Hischier to be a legit #1 center, and we already have Bo as a 1B/2A center. I suspect we're going to end up picking in the 3-5 range, and we're going to stand pat. Outside of the top 3, there is no real consensus as to who is #4-10. Unless we break that top 3, there is no reason to move up since there is no clear ranking and Benning can work his magic from wherever he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 id pick liljengren and trade tanev and sbisa for max value of picks draft some snioers and a center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I don't think Detroit has had a defenseman like Liljegren since Rafalski, and they need defense badly right now. So if we get 3rd and Patrick and Hischier are gone I could really see them trying hard to make a deal with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, canuktravella said: id pick liljengren and trade tanev and sbisa for max value of picks draft some snioers and a center Exactly this! I'd be content with any of Patrick, Hischier or Liljigren to the extent that I wouldn't pay the price it would cost to move up 2 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Tank Tank Tank Can we just LOSE on PURPOSE plz Vancouver Comets!! Throw in the white flag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaerToBo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 If we draft liljegren we'll be able to trade tanev down the line and get a top 6 forward. I like that more than drafting a guy with a 50/50 chance of being a top 6 forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Will trade Edler and if we get the 3rd to 7th OA pick, the 2nd round pick for Colorado's 1st OA pick and Landeskog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I thought LV gets 3rd...we'd get 4th...yeah I know, screwed again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Some people have Liljegren dropping to 8th which may be the next Cam Fowler/Chychrun-type draft. He's a bonified future #1 defenceman and possible Norris guy. I think it really depends where we end up in the draft: 1) If we somehow end up with a top-3 pick, take Nolan or Hirschier or whoever gets left out. May not be a generational talent but if we develop him right, send him back to junior then the AHL for a stint then the NHL when he's 19-20, he'll be a good top-6 center to complement Horvat. 2) If we pick 4-5th, idealy try to trade up with Arizona. That team has Strome, Keller and Domi. Two sure-fire top line centers in that mix, and one very good middle-6 center. They don't need to draft Nolan or Hirschier, they need a defeneman. Either try and snag one of their centers if they want to take a center in the draft, or trade up with the use of our 1st round pick + Virtanen or a young defenceman (Tanev/Sbisa/Subban/Hutton/Stecher). Hopefully 1st + Virtanen + Subban would get it done for 2nd overall --> Hirschier. I'd much rather Hirschier or Nolan than Vilardi (a possible 2nd line center AT BEST but most likely not a top line center) + Virtanen (2nd line powerforward in the making) + Subban (fringe NHLer), whereas Arizona have no use for another star center so might as well take the quality depth. If they want defence, give them one of our many young guys. 3) If we're picking 5-8th overall, it gets tricky. If Liljegren is still on the board, snag him and hope we can trade a defenceman for a young center because trading up from that low down might be a bit hard to get into the top-3. Liljegren is probably going to go top-5 at least anyway, he's a future Karlsson type player with better defensive awareness and less offence. Future Norris guy, maybe even Hedman-esque. Every team needs someone like him to win a Cup and it'd be a shame if he drops below Vilardi and Middlestatd but there's potential. He may IMO end up going to the Las Vegas team 3rd overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMaverick84 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, ABNuck said: I thought LV gets 3rd...we'd get 4th...yeah I know, screwed again... LV gets put into the draft lottery with the same odds as the team that finished third last. So yea, If we get 3rd last, we get screwed by having one extra team with the same odds for 3rd but it's not a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, BenMaverick84 said: LV gets put into the draft lottery with the same odds as the team that finished third last. So yea, If we get 3rd last, we get screwed by having one extra team with the same odds for 3rd but it's not a given. Thanks! I guess the only guaranteed 3rd spot they have is rounds 2-7...thanks for clearing that up mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Or we could pick 3rd if we get 3rd in the lottery. There will be one of those two types of players mentioned available at that point, either one of Patrick or Hischier, or one of the pretty highly rated defencemen in this draft. I doubt we trade up, although we could trade for more picks. But I'd trade Edler and our 1st to Colorado for their 1st and 2nd, not that Colorado would bite. The other option is Sbisa (since I don't think we look to move Hutton) and Colorado probably doesn't bite at that either. I'm not sure they'd bite at either with out 1st just for their 1st. (and before anyone says Tanev, they don't need a RHD since they have Johnson and Barrie in their top 4 already) Doubt we see anyone move up a couple spots in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, ABNuck said: Thanks! I guess the only guaranteed 3rd spot they have is rounds 2-7...thanks for clearing that up mate! Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Trading Edler to Las Vegas would be an interesting thought...if he'd be happy to waive...throw in a 2nd rounder or prospect. Edler + Virtanen + 2nd for 3rd overall pick. We have the 4th/5th and 3rd overall. Trade the 3rd overall up for 2nd overall with Arizona. 3rd overall + Subban + 3rd round pick for 2nd overall (enough? probably not). We lose our 2nd/3rd/later picks, but have the quality. Draft Hirschier and Liljegren. Goodnight world. Dahlen - Hirschier - Boeser Baertschi - Horvat - UFA Goldobin - Sutter - Boucher Gaudette - Gaunce - UFA Juolevi - Liljegren Hutton - Stecher Sbisa - Tryamkin Demko Markstrom That team can win a Cup in their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 10 hours ago, elvis15 said: Or we could pick 3rd if we get 3rd in the lottery. There will be one of those two types of players mentioned available at that point, either one of Patrick or Hischier, or one of the pretty highly rated defencemen in this draft. I doubt we trade up, although we could trade for more picks. But I'd trade Edler and our 1st to Colorado for their 1st and 2nd, not that Colorado would bite. The other option is Sbisa (since I don't think we look to move Hutton) and Colorado probably doesn't bite at that either. I'm not sure they'd bite at either with out 1st just for their 1st. (and before anyone says Tanev, they don't need a RHD since they have Johnson and Barrie in their top 4 already) Doubt we see anyone move up a couple spots in the top 5. 12 hours ago, PunjabiCanucks said: Will trade Edler and if we get the 3rd to 7th OA pick, the 2nd round pick for Colorado's 1st OA pick and Landeskog Edler has a NTC. And he definitely would not waive it to go to Colorado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 10 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Trading Edler to Las Vegas would be an interesting thought...if he'd be happy to waive...throw in a 2nd rounder or prospect. Edler + Virtanen + 2nd for 3rd overall pick. We have the 4th/5th and 3rd overall. Trade the 3rd overall up for 2nd overall with Arizona. 3rd overall + Subban + 3rd round pick for 2nd overall (enough? probably not). We lose our 2nd/3rd/later picks, but have the quality. Draft Hirschier and Liljegren. Goodnight world. Dahlen - Hirschier - Boeser Baertschi - Horvat - UFA Goldobin - Sutter - Boucher Gaudette - Gaunce - UFA Juolevi - Liljegren Hutton - Stecher Sbisa - Tryamkin Demko Markstrom That team can win a Cup in their prime. We could definitely trade the 3rd overall pick to ARI for the 2nd, and we wouldn't have to give that much more because the top of the draft has no consensus top 3 players. And honestly Edler plus the 5th to Vegas for the 3rd would be enough. The issue is Edler wouldn't waive. I like the idea though of trying some Brian Burke magic to move assets and draft picks around to get 2 top 5 picks. It would help us a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Hope we don't get the luck we had last year, going from third to fifth was lets just say (OUCH). We need the luck of the draft lotto for a change, like Edmonton for the last few years(lucky ba$tard$). We were all set to pick a centre or laine and got a defenseman last year,so please HOCKEY GODS,give us a bit of luck. Over the years the Canucks have had no luck but bad luck and it changes this year. Full speed ahead to the cup.WE ARE REALLY PASSIONATE FANS AND WANT A CUP HERE FOR GOODNESS SAKE ALL OF B.C. DESERVE IT, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SUBSIDIZING SOME OF THOSE U.S. TEAMS FOR A LONG TIME, GET THAT BETTMAN! OUR FAN BASE IS GETTING FED UP WITH THIS B.S.,OH NO I'M RANTING , BUT SOMETIMES TRUTH HURTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I say we trade down and pick up 6 ft 6 C Michael Rasmussen then with our second pick we trade up for 6ft 6 LW Isaac Ratcliffe Granlund Horvat Boesser Goldobin Sutter Dahlen Ratcliffe Rasmussen Lockwood MacEwan Gaudette Virtanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Offering either Edler (if allowed) or Tanev to move up in the Draft from a 4th or 5th seating is possible. (Hard to think that Las Vegas would less than a 4th pick, and not be open to an offer for a top 1-2 D man.) If we sit 2nd or 3rd, I think we stay put, unless there is one player targeted, (quite possible our CBJ (2nd rnd) return for Tortarella is released to us to use.) If we sit 6th to 10th... the lottery is rigged again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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