Alflives Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 minute ago, debluvscanucks said: I'm fine with costs. It's "waste" that concerns me. It's salaries for some in positions that have become redundant, but they're kept on board anyhow. Because they can. I didn't say no investment in transit...but I also don't want to funnel money into a bottomless pit and Translink has a lot of that. My God, just review the history of some of it to see that in action. Some dumb decisions are made and they cost all of us. Deb, are you suggesting Trudeau "drains the swamp" of leeches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, inane said: Sure, and health care, education, etc. I know you spent a lot of time in Japan. All their JR lines are privatized and I believe a majority of their subways are the same. IIRC, shares of JR West pays about 4% in dividend annually, so surely they are doing something right. Obviously the same system cannot be implemented exactly the same, but there are tons of things all the transit organizations in Canada can replicate to make everything as a whole better. Public accountability is the easiest thing to do and the best metrics to go by will be via external investors and financial statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: I'm fine with costs. It's "waste" that concerns me. It's salaries for some in positions that have become redundant, but they're kept on board anyhow. Because they can. I didn't say no investment in transit...but I also don't want to funnel money into a bottomless pit and Translink has a lot of that. My God, just review the history of some of it to see that in action. Some dumb decisions are made and they cost all of us. Yeah yeah, translink is easy to bash. I could find fault in any large organization. Just build more trains, get more buses on the road. This helps with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, Lancaster said: Or they could just privatize transit. Yeah, like when they privatized the ferries. That sure worked out well for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, The Sedge said: Yeah, like when they privatized the ferries. That sure worked out well for everyone. Because there's no such thing as an efficient and money-generating transit system? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 26 minutes ago, Lancaster said: I know you spent a lot of time in Japan. All their JR lines are privatized and I believe a majority of their subways are the same. IIRC, shares of JR West pays about 4% in dividend annually, so surely they are doing something right. Obviously the same system cannot be implemented exactly the same, but there are tons of things all the transit organizations in Canada can replicate to make everything as a whole better. Public accountability is the easiest thing to do and the best metrics to go by will be via external investors and financial statements. There's lots of research on that, here's a brief article about it. https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2011/10/why-tokyos-privately-owned-rail-systems-work-so-well/389/ This is a great paper from one of the leading transportation planners out there. http://www.vtpi.org/cont_vis.pdf Aspects of privatization could work, but I don't think we'd be any better off in the end given our geography among other aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 So why are we having a giant deficit of $28 Billion when we no longer in a recession? According to most economic theories, you spend when you are in a recession in order boost the economy. Also, didn't Trudeau say that they will only have a deficit of $10 Billion each year? Another broken promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Taxing the middle class more so that they can save them more money... What a system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzuto&hatoum Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Fateless said: "$523.9 million over five years to prevent tax evasion and improve tax compliance, including more auditors, a crackdown on high-risk avoidance cases and better investigative efforts." Does this not seem self-defeating to anyone else? Spending over half a billion in tax money, to make sure people pay the government more taxes? For every dollar spent, they recover $5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzuto&hatoum Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Alflives said: What will happen (sadly) is WWIII. It's not silly, because likely 90% of wars are fought over some economic principles, disguised in other ways, to justify the horror. Maybe Trump/Bannon wants WWIII to solve the overpopulation problem. And the elites will be hiding in their bunkers and crawl out once it's over. (Geez, must be listening to Coast to Coast too often.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, rizzuto&hatoum said: Maybe Trump/Bannon wants WWIII to solve the overpopulation problem. And the elites will be hiding in their bunkers and crawl out once it's over. (Geez, must be listening to Coast to Coast too often.) George Noory!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzuto&hatoum Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Alflives said: George Noory!!! Cue the Moroder music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, inane said: Yeah yeah, translink is easy to bash. I could find fault in any large organization. They make it easy...and I don't buy into turning a blind eye because of a deflection. You suggested putting money into Translink vs into our pockets. I say start making better use of the money that is poured in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: They make it easy...and I don't buy into turning a blind eye because of a deflection. You suggested putting money into Translink vs into our pockets. I say start making better use of the money that is poured in. And as multiple audits have shown, they are now very efficient. It's an easy thing to bash, but actually look into, it's now run much better. Relative to other transit agencies, it's very good. Perfect? Of course not, but that's reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Fateless said: "$523.9 million over five years to prevent tax evasion and improve tax compliance, including more auditors, a crackdown on high-risk avoidance cases and better investigative efforts." Does this not seem self-defeating to anyone else? Spending over half a billion in tax money, to make sure people pay the government more taxes? That's on top of the $400 m they already spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, inane said: And as multiple audits have shown, they are now very efficient. It's an easy thing to bash, but actually look into, it's now run much better. Relative to other transit agencies, it's very good. Perfect? Of course not, but that's reality. I believe they're good when compared to other North American transit systems....... but that's hardly a high bar to be measured up with. I think the "efficient" part is referred to the bus system only and the same(?) article mentions that the corporate side of Translink was inefficient. There is almost no real good reason for Translink to remain government owned either than the socialist mantra that supposedly big-bad business will jack up prices and provide less service. MTR, JR East/Central/West/etc, other Japanese private rail lines, etc.... they must be doing something right. Why don't Translink ever try to emulate those models? Vancouver needs to stop setting low standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyAdams Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 3 hours ago, The Sedge said: Yeah, like when they privatized the ferries. That sure worked out well for everyone. The reason the ferries are a disaster is there is literally no alternative besides flight (which a lot of people are turning to) so they can set the price with little government interference. Build a bridge or perhaps a tunnel and the ferries suddenly become far less vital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Are there any good Canadian political podcasts like Dan Carlin from the US. Guys, Dan Carlin is an amazing persona. I highly recommend his podcasts, either Hardcore History or Common Sense. Anyone heard of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo053 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 at least they left the capital gains tax alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 38 minutes ago, Mr53 said: The reason the ferries are a disaster is there is literally no alternative besides flight (which a lot of people are turning to) so they can set the price with little government interference. Build a bridge or perhaps a tunnel and the ferries suddenly become far less vital Death knell to our beloved Orcas though. Everyone seems to forget our resident Killer Whales. Noise pollution from the ferries hurts, but the US Navy sonar disruptions are worse than even building a bridge. People know this right? Common sense I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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