Mafia - General Discussion

[Intoewsables]

On 4/16/2017 at 3:43 PM, Master Radishes said:

Whilst we wait for a new game...

 

Mafia question of the day: is fake roleclaiming when you're TP ever good for the Town?

The only reason I can think of off the top of my head would be if the townie in question was trying to take a bullet for the real special they're claiming for, which would usually require both of them to be in contact. In a game with no outside communication, I'd say at least 9/10 times it's bad town play or a scum move.

 

23 hours ago, Master Radishes said:

Mafia question of the day: Should the Vigilante, if in the game, act on his/her own, or follow the Town's public advice?

It really depends on how strong of a game the town is playing, IMO. If scum are being picked off left and right by good town play, the Vigilante should really be following the town consensus and taking out "obvious" mafia. Otherwise, they should play to their own hunches and ignore suggestions from players who, for all they know, could be scum looking to get an extra townie killed. More often than not, it's probably the latter scenario that's playing out for most of the game so I guess that's the more applicable answer.

[Guest]

Next year, if mafia is still played on this site, we should have a game of mafia, the MVP gets to go no matter what. It'd be a fun game imo because of the reward on the line. 

Edited April 18, 2017 by Guest

[AV.]

4 hours ago, Stamkos said:

Next year, if mafia is still played on this site, we should have a game of mafia, the MVP gets to go no matter what. It'd be a fun game imo because of the reward on the line. 

Unfortunately, reppin' CDC seems to be more of a burden than it is an award.

[Zfetch]

Mafia question of the day: Should selecting the MK be based on killing off who is obviously a regular TP or someone who could possibly be a special?

[Master Radishes]

On 2017-04-18 at 3:18 AM, Beluga Whale said:

What if I say Vig should act on their own but that includes listening to the Town's consensus sometimes?

Stop being reasonable. We're supposed to be debating.

 

What if the TP all say 'yeah, MR seems green' and you, the Vig, heavily suspect otherwise?

 

On 2017-04-18 at 10:06 PM, Intoewsables said:

It really depends on how strong of a game the town is playing, IMO. If scum are being picked off left and right by good town play, the Vigilante should really be following the town consensus and taking out "obvious" mafia. Otherwise, they should play to their own hunches and ignore suggestions from players who, for all they know, could be scum looking to get an extra townie killed. More often than not, it's probably the latter scenario that's playing out for most of the game so I guess that's the more applicable answer.

Follow-up: should the Vig submit a kill R1?

[Master Radishes]

23 hours ago, Stamkos said:

Next year, if mafia is still played on this site, we should have a game of mafia, the MVP gets to go no matter what. It'd be a fun game imo because of the reward on the line. 

A one-off game doesn't really prove worth, though. And the problem is we have so many players who would represent CDC admirably, but can only send one a year. 'Seniority' (as it were) is perhaps the fairest way to ensure deserving players get their chance.

 

Also, I object to your insinuation that we might not still be playing Mafia in a year's time. The first game was over eight years ago - we'll make it one more year.

[Master Radishes]

15 hours ago, Zfetch said:

Mafia question of the day: Should selecting the MK be based on killing off who is obviously a regular TP or someone who could possibly be a special?

Obviously it varies depending on, e.g. how many roles are in a game, how certain the team is on who is a special, etc. Specials should be taken out, but if it's all just guesswork, it might be better to take out the leading TP in the thread. If someone roleclaims in the thread, I'm usually tempted to let them be if Mafia, and then doubt might be cast on their claim by others about why they weren't killed.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Master Radishes said:

Also, I object to your insinuation that we might not still be playing Mafia in a year's time. The first game was over eight years ago - we'll make it one more year.

We've played, what, two games since New Years? It's been going downhill. I hope there's mafia, I just don't know

[Master Radishes]

23 hours ago, Stamkos said:

We've played, what, two games since New Years? It's been going downhill. I hope there's mafia, I just don't know

We've had multiple months-long periods of no games at all, and have always survived. Don't worry, it won't die so easily.

[JAY JAY]

Are there any rules that specifically deny to a GM, the information they give out or withhold, and/or how to interpret the kills in a Nightfall Report. (info again)

Should a GM be forthcoming (roles and info) in the OP? (I liked how Trex kept no secret on the Specials in the game)

Should the NF Reports format ( Info given) be laid out in the OP also? Similar to the kill order.

Hope that's not confusing.

 

I guess what I'm really asking is: When does or if, too much information can impact the game negatively.

Can you say in the NF report that the Vig killed a mafia and name that mafia role?

Is it better to say 'would not or could not' make a kill or investigation as opposed to actually saying the real reason?(dead)

I've used that one myself. It seems to me that saying the Vig or SK is dead might influence the game in some way.

Should a GM name all the Special Roles in a game in the OP, or not? A disclaimer like: 'Some of these roles may or may not be used in the game', if a list names more roles than will be used in the game?

Can another mafia team and or 3rd. party be kept secret in the OP?

 

I would like to be a better GM/Host.

I'm working on a game where rounds are called legs because the game is a rally race.

The period of time from Thread Locked to Next Leg Start is Pit Time.

There would be Time bonuses and penalties. The Winner of each Leg, as determined by the GM would receive a Time Bonus.

(posts and activity would be criteria used)

Leaving the Pit early would get a Time Penalty. There may be other bonuses to earn or get.

 

Stay tuned for the "Wacky Racers". (would need a minimum of 25 players)

[Master Radishes]

Simply put, there are no rules about anything. If you're the GM, you do what you want. The flip side, of course, is that players have a right to express their dislike if they don't approve of your set up.

 

I find myself not really sure if I like giving away too much info. It makes it easier for both sides and ruins potential strategies. There's something to be said for forcing players to speculate about who was which role. Also, I know I've definitely, as SK, purposely not killed one night to make everything think I was dead. That wouldn't work if everything was out in the open.

 

Just personal preference I think. I'd still play a game otherwise.

[JAY JAY]

2 hours ago, Master Radishes said:

Simply put, there are no rules about anything. If you're the GM, you do what you want. The flip side, of course, is that players have a right to express their dislike if they don't approve of your set up.

 

I find myself not really sure if I like giving away too much info. It makes it easier for both sides and ruins potential strategies. There's something to be said for forcing players to speculate about who was which role. Also, I know I've definitely, as SK, purposely not killed one night to make everything think I was dead. That wouldn't work if everything was out in the open.

 

Just personal preference I think. I'd still play a game otherwise.

While I certainly don't want players pissed at me, it is more important to me is that the game is fair, balanced, and fun.

 

I will continue with the stingy NF Reports.(roles) I agree and thanks.

[Thingyman]

FINAL UPDATE

 

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We have a big chat on Discord (300+ members) for those that want to spectate and talk about these games. The representatives will be added to this channel too after they die. Or if you just want to chat with people from other communities, we have a general chat too that is unrelated to the Mafia Championship.

 

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[JAY JAY]

@Master Radishes and @Beluga Whale

 

I pledge to no longer use the terms "I am TP" or "100% TP", even if I am TP. (in game play)

I will try to play better from now on. Thanks for the constructive criticisms.

Any thing else that I should stop doing? I am not being sarcastic.

I enjoy playing with you guys and learning play and tactics.

Edited May 3, 2017 by JAY JAY
I had a reason

[Master Radishes]

I only want you to pledge one thing, JJ - pledge to stop apologising for yourself. You say whatever you want to say, and play however you want to play. BW and I (and others) are not Mafia gods who make the rules. Do what you want. We're not mocking you with the 'JJ is TP' thing out of meanness. We just love extended jokes. Roll with it and keep playing the game however you want to play it.

[Beluga Whale]

Yeah I was only joking about that. You can say whatever you like as long as it's within the rules. 

[JAY JAY]

9 hours ago, Master Radishes said:

I only want you to pledge one thing, JJ - pledge to stop apologising for yourself. You say whatever you want to say, and play however you want to play. BW and I (and others) are not Mafia gods who make the rules. Do what you want. We're not mocking you with the 'JJ is TP' thing out of meanness. We just love extended jokes. Roll with it and keep playing the game however you want to play it.

 

9 hours ago, Beluga Whale said:

Yeah I was only joking about that. You can say whatever you like as long as it's within the rules. 

I like the jokes and joking that people do. I like my mafia game family.

I meant that I realize that saying I'm TP means nothing to anyone.

If I'm town, I'll scum hunt.

I don't consider you 2 to be gods, just bullies!

Ha Ha

[Beluga Whale]

112's qualifying game in the MU championship is about to start. Rep this post if you want an invite to the discussion PM.

[Master Radishes]

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/8686-Season-4-Game-6-Smurfs-The-Mafia-Championship

 

^^Link to the game.

 

112 gonna rock it.

[Master Radishes]

16 minutes ago, Beluga Whale said:

112's qualifying game in the MU championship is about to start. Rep this post if you want an invite to the discussion PM.

Blatant rep farming.