wallstreetamigo Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: So the Province is reporting Krueger as a candidate for a front office hire and not the next head coach: http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/report-canucks-interested-in-hockey-coachsoccer-exec-krueger Basically the article says Krueger would become the third voice in the primary leadership group (alongside Linden and Benning). This makes more sense to me. Krueger would be the perfect addition to management, especially if we go with a younger head coach like Green. Why would Krueger want to do this though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I am still holding out hope we aren't going to hire Eakins.....errr I mean Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: Do you think that was a forehand or backhand slap? Met Henri in the Van airport years ago. Very quiet and unassuming guy. Classy to say the least. I'm not sure what the exact reasons for them not getting along (was a long time ago - and I wasn't all that old then). At the time I thought it was odd he didn't return as coach for the Habs the following season - even at that young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: So the Province is reporting Krueger as a candidate for a front office hire and not the next head coach: http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/report-canucks-interested-in-hockey-coachsoccer-exec-krueger Basically the article says Krueger would become the third voice in the primary leadership group (alongside Linden and Benning). This makes more sense to me. Krueger would be the perfect addition to management, especially if we go with a younger head coach like Green. Exactly what I've been saying. Great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: So the Province is reporting Krueger as a candidate for a front office hire and not the next head coach: http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/report-canucks-interested-in-hockey-coachsoccer-exec-krueger Basically the article says Krueger would become the third voice in the primary leadership group (alongside Linden and Benning). This makes more sense to me. Krueger would be the perfect addition to management, especially if we go with a younger head coach like Green. This kind of makes me think we could be leaning towards Nico Hischier and not Nolan Patrick...if we win the draft lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Tre Mac said: How does this pass as journalism? Anything passes in this mickey mouse media market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 19 hours ago, Kaner said: I'm just happy that they are identifying other options, other than making a rash decision and just immediately hiring Green. If we can't grab Krueger, I say we hold out and see if there are any good coaches fired in the next couple weeks. So you don't want green because of lack of experience in the NHL, but are fine with Krueger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 hours ago, oldnews said: I think the idea that Green is a Desjardins clone is far more of a bad and convenient analogy that has been parroted based on one or two thoughts than it is an actual desciption of Green - who deserves to be taken on his own grounds. That said, I disagree with your comment about the team's systems - I think they were actually quite entertaining and achieving respectable results as well - until about January/February, when the wheels (mumps, MASH, flu, food poisoning) fell off. To that point, their systems were relatively tight - they were aggressive enough - they managed a fair amount of comebacks - and that's without real game-breakers in the lineup. Not sure what people's problems with the systems were/are - but I think they're mistaking the effects of an AHL / waiverwire / rookie / emergency Euro UFA lineup for failed systems. I disagree with the system being entertaining. Chip and chase. They never control the puck and their shots against tell the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Sid has actually sold me on Krueger despite my earlier snark. Sounds like a nice piece to add to management if they can swing it. I'm good with TG as the new head coach as well... I just hope management preaches patience to the hoi polloi so his player deployment isn't under the microscope. Heck, I hope they take a good hard look at having Boeser in the AHL and keeping Juolevi in Jr or in Europe. Slow and steady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, appleboy said: I disagree with the system being entertaining. Chip and chase. They never control the puck and their shots against tell the story. Actually the shots against tell you nothing aside from the lineup being overmatched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlinkas wrister Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: So the Province is reporting Krueger as a candidate for a front office hire and not the next head coach: http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/report-canucks-interested-in-hockey-coachsoccer-exec-krueger Basically the article says Krueger would become the third voice in the primary leadership group (alongside Linden and Benning). This makes more sense to me. Krueger would be the perfect addition to management, especially if we go with a younger head coach like Green. This makes a lot of sense, kind of like when the Oilers hired Bob Nicholson. He's got a good reputation as a team builder, probably why Babcock recruited him to help with team Canada for Sochi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katobaron Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, appleboy said: I disagree with the system being entertaining. Chip and chase. They never control the puck and their shots against tell the story. I would say our AHL roster tells a better story than possession analytics. If we don't have the skill players to carry it in then how else are we supposed to enter the offensive zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Wait... had to do a double take... he's managing a soccer team?! w0t?! NTY, Sutter please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, appleboy said: I disagree with the system being entertaining. Chip and chase. They never control the puck and their shots against tell the story. As old news said, that's more about personnel. To add to that, up until injuries and illness became too much to handle, shots against was a misleading stat as they played a box+1 defensive system and the vast majority of shots came from the perimeter and were very low percentage shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry35 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I have to say after looking at some of the things posted about him Krueger sounds like a guy you would want somewhere in your organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, wallstreetamigo said: Why would Krueger want to do this though? I could see it being a highly attractive position for him. He could take on a supervisory role for the coaching staff, both Vancouver and Utica, and act as the primary contact point between coaching and management. He could direct "big picture" elements like strategy and systems, organization wide. He could play a key role in analyzing the roster and pinpointing needs (ie: acquisition targets) and possible redundancies (ie: trade chips). He could help with advanced scouting of other teams and also identifying league trends and the direction teams are moving toward (and help the Canucks adjust). He also could play an advisory coaching role, watching games from above and relaying information to the bench, while also helping break down performance post game. And he could help with aspects like team culture and leadership, an area where he brings a wealth of knowledge and experience (and at a world class level). The key for me is whether or not the personalities will fit. Is Krueger a good match for Benning and Linden? Will they listen to him? Will they give him the necessary role and power to have an equal seat at the table? Will they defer to his expertise in areas where his knowledge might prove superior to their own? If they can "get along" in that way, I can see Krueger being a huge addition to the front office and one who would only improve the performance of current management, without diminishing the overall workability of the leadership structure or causing internal conflict. And if that's the case, I can see Krueger finding the position very attractive. Quite possibly attractive enough for him to leave his current gig and return to hockey, which is his first (and abiding) love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Noseforthenet said: This kind of makes me think we could be leaning towards Nico Hischier and not Nolan Patrick...if we win the draft lottery. Why? because of a rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, apollo said: Wait... had to do a double take... he's managing a soccer team?! w0t?! NTY, Sutter please. you're a 'boxer' - why would we listen to your hockey opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Is there any truth to the rumour that Linden may want out? Krueger is Director of a big time soccer club in England. Maybe they're looking at Krueger as Linden's ultimate replacement. Thoughts? Just running this up the flag pole. Edit, Reading backwards, it's not a new idea apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 "My strengths are sport-specific on the hockey team-building side, but other strengths are on the leadership side. We need to take the whole leadership side to a different level.” - Krueger Sounds like he would be a nice complimentary piece. What the heck does Weisbrod do? Does this make Linden redundant? Krueger sounds like he could be a similar add to what Nicholson was in Edmonton..... This is getting complicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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