oldnews Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, sockeye said: I'm surprised CDC didn't catch where the rumour came from. that's all interesting but the question was where the rumour that Linden wanted to step down came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 hours ago, ice orca said: Why? because of a rumor. Nico is the guy we want Patrick is already injury prone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockeye Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, oldnews said: that's all interesting but the question was where the rumour that Linden wanted to step down came from. OK. I guess, I didn't read enough of the posts lol. I thought people were wondering where the rumour about Krueger came from. I never heard anything about Linden wanting to step down. With what has been said in the post-season, I'd be shocked if LInden stepped down. He said that there would be no changes at the managerial level (I assumed he had talked to the owners and the owners had supported management). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, sockeye said: OK. I guess, I didn't read enough of the posts lol. I thought people were wondering where the rumour about Krueger came from. I never heard anything about Linden wanting to step down. With what has been said in the post-season, I'd be shocked if LInden stepped down. He said that there would be no changes at the managerial level (I assumed he had talked to the owners and the owners had supported management). I agree. That's why I asked for a source. Sounds like Van media bullcrap to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 We? speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, canuck2288 said: Nico is the guy we want Patrick is already injury prone Agreed, Patrick will play decent (with injuries here and there) and better on every contract year until his first real big contract and a year in, Nolan will be sitting on IR making six million a year for six years (will have less of an impact than Loui in those six years) and Vancouver+CDC will be in an up roar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 On 4/18/2017 at 1:40 PM, Brad Marchand said: Always wondered why the Oilers fired him so quickly. Not sure he would have any desire to leave Southampton, though. He's the club chairman. He was fired because McTavish wanted his own guy. That simple. Of course the result was the team regressed under Eakins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 hours ago, ice orca said: Why? because of a rumor. No, because of what the rumor implies and the connections which can be made because of it. Ralph Kruger did do great with Team Europe. I think if there is any truth to the rumor, then it may mean we are leaning towards drafting Euro with our pick. Plus Hischier is Swiss along with Kruger. Whether we draft him or not, we will have a good European influence on our team in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 hours ago, afan said: Why would Vancouver want another coach who never had any success in the NHL? Why would they give Erickson 6x6? One of life's mysteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 7 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: So the Province is reporting Krueger as a candidate for a front office hire and not the next head coach: http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/report-canucks-interested-in-hockey-coachsoccer-exec-krueger Basically the article says Krueger would become the third voice in the primary leadership group (alongside Linden and Benning). This makes more sense to me. Krueger would be the perfect addition to management, especially if we go with a younger head coach like Green. If the Krueger rumors only amount to a front office hiring, I'm happy with that. Opens up for Green to take the reigns. As I said before, I am advocating for more structure and longevity within the organization. Nothing comes from firing and hiring all the time but insecurity. Green could possibly be that stable coach to develop our players. He's familiar with a lot of them already and given the opportunity and a lot of patience he could grow with the group as well over the next few years. I would be very ok if this is what the situation looks like. Canucks aren't solely looking for a winning coach now, but someone who can take these players and make them into solid NHL contributors. I wanted Gallant before he was hired by Vegas. The reason I wanted him was that I think he's a good coach who can develop young players. Those are my criteria moving forwards. And! A coach that has a better and more developed relationship with management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two drink minimum Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 For the love of Pete. Ralph Krueger???. I'd rather see Freddy Krueger be the head coach. Just pitiful. Why even fir WD if that's their plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 As somebody from Edmonton, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I am totally down for Krueger From what I remember he was unorthadox and possitive, players loved him, he got the most out of the Oilers team I think he sounds like a great choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I'm NOT good with him as ANOTHER front office guy Leadership by comitee is never a good thing I know Trev knows what kind of team this city will pay to see I wish he would name himself GM Benning Assistant GM and just GO FOR IT! Linden is listening to too many people, he knows what to do he just needs to grab the reins and DO IT! Pat Quinn style, the buck stops with him It was always my dream to see Trev lift the cup, if it has to be as an executive so be it, but I will be bitterly let down if he bails before this thing comes together, or if he lets other people steer the ship Other people may know hockey, but no one knows VANCOUVER like Trev, he just needs to start trusting himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, terrible.dee said: I'm NOT good with him as ANOTHER front office guy Leadership by comitee is never a good thing I know Trev knows what kind of team this city will pay to see I wish he would name himself GM Benning Assistant GM and just GO FOR IT! Linden is listening to too many people, he knows what to do he just needs to grab the reins and DO IT! Pat Quinn style, the buck stops with him It was always my dream to see Trev lift the cup, if it has to be as an executive so be it, but I will be bitterly let down if he bails before this thing comes together, or if he lets other people steer the ship Other people may know hockey, but no one knows VANCOUVER like Trev, he just needs to start trusting himself Yeah. Might be true that Linden might be listening to too many voices. He is the president of hockey operations. I think, with almost no experience as an executive, he's done remarkably well. Fans here want elite talent, but in order to get a chance to even draft elite talent, the team needs to finish almost dead last. Ironically, many fans here can't handle that. Can't have it both ways. We either suck for a few years, and accumulate elite talent, and begin to build around those players. Or we attempt to win, and continue to accumulate average, to above average talents, and continue to be mediocre for the next decade. Making a playoff push here and there. Trev knows this city and it's fans too well. Which is why I think he's refused to use the term and language of "rebuild" because he knows deep down, while fans may be clamoring for it, they won't support it. He's no dummy. In fact, he's very intuitive and smart man. Damn if they do, damn if they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobidus Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I'd be interested in seeing what he could do with Boeser and Goldobin seeing as Yakupov thrived under Krueger for a season. Hall, RNH, Gagner, Eberle had pretty nice seasons in terms of points. After what he's done with Team Europe we could do a lot worse than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Noseforthenet said: No, because of what the rumor implies and the connections which can be made because of it. Ralph Kruger did do great with Team Europe. I think if there is any truth to the rumor, then it may mean we are leaning towards drafting Euro with our pick. Plus Hischier is Swiss along with Kruger. Whether we draft him or not, we will have a good European influence on our team in the future. Krueger is Canadian born of German ancestry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Our PP needs an intervention. Maybe he's the outside guy that could come in and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 hours ago, terrible.dee said: I'm NOT good with him as ANOTHER front office guy Leadership by comitee is never a good thing I know Trev knows what kind of team this city will pay to see I wish he would name himself GM Benning Assistant GM and just GO FOR IT! Linden is listening to too many people, he knows what to do he just needs to grab the reins and DO IT! Pat Quinn style, the buck stops with him It was always my dream to see Trev lift the cup, if it has to be as an executive so be it, but I will be bitterly let down if he bails before this thing comes together, or if he lets other people steer the ship Other people may know hockey, but no one knows VANCOUVER like Trev, he just needs to start trusting himself Uuummm, maybe the buck already stops with him. http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/jason-botchford-interest-in-krueger-suggests-linden-is-driving-canucks-bus Jason Botchford: Interest in Krueger suggests Linden is driving Canucks’ bus ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: APR 18, 2017 BY JASON BOTCHFORD Ralph Krueger during his time with Team Europe.Minas Panagiotakis / It It's barely the second week of the Canucks’ coaching search and already people are getting restless. If Travis Green is the slam dunk pick to lead this collection of hockey players, and he just may be, what is the front office waiting for? And if it’s not Green, then whom? That last one is the question with the most intrigue, but it’s followed closely by the one with the most import: Who will have the most influence in hiring the next coach of the Vancouver Canucks? There’s always someone who gets their way. In the Vancouver hierarchy, there’s a president, a general manager and several active owners who were heavily involved in the interview process when John Tortorella was hired in 2013. One theory, which has been making the rounds almost since the day Willie Desjardins was hired, is that GM Jim Benning would essentially get to choose the next one. Desjardins has long been considered Trevor Linden’s choice, a point Desjardins appeared to drive home in his goodbye-to-Vancouver press conference when he acknowledged his relationship with Linden played a significant role in him to coming to British Columbia in the first place. If this were true, it makes sense Benning would command a greater role this time around, and it should be that way for a host of reasons, especially if his job is next in the queue to be in the line of fire. That is why it was surprising for some to see a report linking Ralph Krueger to the Canucks as a possible coaching candidate, and maybe more. Krueger is the former Edmonton Oilers head coach currently making Mike Babcock money as chairman of the Southhampton Football Club, a team in the English Premier League. He has built a career in part because of his expertise in leadership and motivational speaking. He has experience creating high-performance teams, and believes strongly in building a culture that places team spirit above individual success. These are all things that fit with what Linden has been trying to bring to the Canucks with mixed results so far and why it feels like his fingerprints are all over any interest in Krueger. The Canucks haven’t interviewed Krueger, but he sure didn’t deny their interest when contacted by Sportsnet hockey reporter Elliotte Friedman. If Vancouver did seriously pursue him, you’d have a hard time convincing people locally that Linden wasn’t the one driving the bus. Since the end of Linden’s second year, there have been both reports and speculation the Canucks are open to adding help in the front office, a management group which remains inexperienced despite the fact they are in their fourth off-season. Could someone like Krueger, who has been out of hockey for years, help? It seems doubtful. But he has proven to be a decent hockey coach who nearly kept an awful Edmonton Oilers team from drowning in the lockout-shortened 2012-13 season. For now, any Canucks interest in Krueger is pie-in-the-sky stuff. He’s not leaving his big-time role in the Premier League to coach the Canucks, and if he did, he’s nuts. Now, if his team is sold, which is still possible, he could be out of a job there and it’s a game-changer. It would set the stage for his return to the NHL. Until then, Green will continue to be viewed as the Canucks front-runner, though the longer this drags on, the more questions there will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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