oldnews Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, appleboy said: Is Green a Willie clone? Linden said they want someone who is willing to play an up tempo game. Structured but up tempo. The style that was implemented by our coaching staff this year was so hard to watch. As we see players with more skill arrive it would be nice to see a more entertaining style played. I would rather see a loss where we scored several goals. I can watch paint dry at home. I think the idea that Green is a Desjardins clone is far more of a bad and convenient analogy that has been parroted based on one or two thoughts than it is an actual desciption of Green - who deserves to be taken on his own grounds. That said, I disagree with your comment about the team's systems - I think they were actually quite entertaining and achieving respectable results as well - until about January/February, when the wheels (mumps, MASH, flu, food poisoning) fell off. To that point, their systems were relatively tight - they were aggressive enough - they managed a fair amount of comebacks - and that's without real game-breakers in the lineup. Not sure what people's problems with the systems were/are - but I think they're mistaking the effects of an AHL / waiverwire / rookie / emergency Euro UFA lineup for failed systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I know what you mean. It's going to be a long offseason. yeah, even if Q were available and wanted to come here, I think we'd have to turn him down. we don't want people thinking the team wants immediate results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 minute ago, oldnews said: yeah, even if Q were available and wanted to come here, I think we'd have to turn him down. we don't want people thinking the team wants immediate results. We have to keep them thinking that it's a process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I'd rather have canucks hire Krueger over Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckylarry Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, oldnews said: yeah, even if Q were available and wanted to come here, I think we'd have to turn him down. we don't want people thinking the team wants immediate results. What if we got Q, and both he and management publicly said that we are 'rebuilding'? Kind of what the Leafs did when they hired Babcock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: We have to keep them thinking that it's a process. But if we pay JQ $60 million, does that make him better than Babcock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, captainhorvat said: I'd rather have canucks hire Krueger over Green. he does seem like a very interesting guy if there really is any interest. Certainly sounds like there was some talk. With his organizational skills Jim might have to watch his back if they do hire him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Luckylarry said: What if we got Q, and both he and management publicly said that we are 'rebuilding'? Kind of what the Leafs did when they hired Babcock? I think Babcock wanted to go to Toronto no matter what the state of the franchise was. It's a bit different scenario I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Duck Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I know what you mean. It's going to be a long offseason. Don't worry too much, I'm sure the WEEKS will just fly by while listening to people obsess over how we've been screwed over with any pick from 2-5, and whose fault (JB/Willie/Sbisa/Bettman) it is that we didn't get first overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: he does seem like a very interesting guy if there really is any interest. Certainly sounds like there was some talk. With his organizational skills Jim might have to watch his back if they do hire him Ralph Krueger does come across as someone who would make a good gm oneday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, Luckylarry said: What if we got Q, and both he and management publicly said that we are 'rebuilding'? Kind of what the Leafs did when they hired Babcock? It's not as important to me as it is to some, which word we use - I happen to like "transition". I'm a big fan of using different words, subtle differences in meaning, etc. The English language is great for that. So, for me, best case scenario would be to hire Q and say we're 'transitioning'......but we're almost done lol. Maybe one more trade - and then time to refocus on results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 14 hours ago, Kaner said: I wouldn't be too surprised if Quenneville was fired. Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, Mad_Duck said: Don't worry too much, I'm sure the WEEKS will just fly by while listening to people obsess over how we've been screwed over with any pick from 2-5, and whose fault (JB/Willie/Sbisa/Bettman) it is that we didn't get first overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckylarry Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, oldnews said: It's not as important to me as it is to some, which word we use - I happen to like "transition". I'm a big fan of using different words, subtle differences in meaning, etc. The English language is great for that. So, for me, best case scenario would be to hire Q and say we're 'transitioning'......but we're almost done lol. Maybe one more trade - and then time to refocus on results! Yup, would love to get a top notch guy in here to lead the 'transition' to our younger guys for sure. I just don't know if any of the current names bantered about are 'top notch', other than Queneville, and he's (for certain) not going to be available. What big trade? Twins or Edler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If Krueger and Sutter have a 1 armed monkey knife fight for the job, I am fully in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayCanuck10 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Hmmm, Ralph Kruger sure comes with a lot of hype... but wasn't Willie D also hyped among us for his winning ways in the AHL and WHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 44 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: But if we pay JQ $60 million, does that make him better than Babcock? no, it just means vancouver is less desirable than toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 minute ago, JayCanuck10 said: Hmmm, Ralph Kruger sure comes with a lot of hype... but wasn't Willie D also hyped among us for his winning ways in the AHL and WHL? Yes. That's why it's best if our management takes as much hype out of it and focuses on the strengths and abilities of the next coach relative to where our team is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 People underestimate green. He uses young guys in areas they did not even feel comfortable and gained confidence in themselves. When we got Baertschi he was sent to Green, Green put him out there and helped him gain confidence now look. I'm not saying Green is best, I love him in Utica (wish he would stay forever, pipe dream I know) however I feel he is underestimated on CDC. He did wonders for Virtanen this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 15 hours ago, MJDDawg said: It would be so Canuck-like wouldn't it to hire a guy who was an NHL head coach for one season AND hasn't even been in this league for three years. This is happening. Better yet, offer the job to Tiger Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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