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[Signing] Tryamkin goes to the KHL

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4 minutes ago, DontMessMe said:

i wonder if goldy will leave in a couple years or whenever his contract is up LOL

He committed to NA as a junior though and even played a season in Finland right after the OHL.

 

He seems more committed. His development path implies as such.

 

I don't see him bolting without giving the NHL a real shot, a shot much more significant than Tryamkin's tenure here.

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9 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Well this certainly sucks big time.

 

22 year olds shouldn't be bitching about ice time. The last 22 year old we had who bitched about his ice time was Cody Hodgson. He bounced out of the league.

 

As sad as I am to lose him and his potential. You cannot have guys with his "me first" attitude in your locker room. They are a cancer.

 

I guess now we can stop with all the Tanev trade threads.

Tbh I don't think Tryamkin is a "me first" kind of guy, he always cared about the team and his teammates

 

I guess it comes down Russia being able to give him something we couldn't, being able to play more games and make more money in your own country with the ice time you desire.

 

And you never know, he's also married now, family can be a big influence.

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Man, this sucks.  I absolutely hate that he's leaving, but I can't dislike the guy for it.   There are a lot of factors in making a decision like that - including family, culture, and even language.   The fact that he still uses a translator after more than a year here says something in itself.  I had to learn a language that I had never even heard before at the age of 33, and it took me about a year and a half to become reasonably fluent.  After a year, you should most definitely be able to answer simple questions and express yourself - even if it isn't perfect.  Maybe being sat at the beginning and not really understanding why made him lose interest in "fitting in" or really immersing himself in the culture and learning the language.

Or it could just be family related. Who knows?
Great player. Wish him the best, but really really wish it was with the Canucks instead of in Russia!

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2 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said:

Tbh I don't think Tryamkin is a "me first" kind of guy, he always cared about the team and his teammates

 

I guess it comes down Russia being able to give him something we couldn't, being able to play more and make more money in your own country with the ice time you desire.

 

And you never know, he's also married now, family can be a big influence.

If you care about your team and your team mates do you show up out of shape and then refuse a conditioning stint? To me that reeks of entitlement.

 

I do think you're right about him preferring Russia. He's signed with his home city and can be close to family, friends etc.

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Wow, not having Tryamkin next season is gonna suck, he was my favorite player and was most of the reason I tuned in every night. Maybe ice time wasn't the only reason he decided to go back home? I mean coming to a new country at 21, recently getting married, and experiencing the whole culture shock he might have felt going home was a better option. Whatever it may be I just hope he comes back more mature and ready.

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That sucks, he was one of the few exciting, bright spots to watch, really going to miss seeing big hits like this..

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I think this is more a family decision than a hockey decision.

Hope everything is good for him and he can return to the NHL in a couple years to help this team.

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So there goes the plan to trade a D for a F.

 

Now because of expansion the team might even be down to 5 regular Ds.

 

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Sigh- this kid was really one of the new core I was excited to watch grow and develop - so much talent in him.

 

Could be many reasons, ice time, family, language or something no one has talked about, maybe the Nucks weren't offering enough money and the KHL came in heavily over the top to the point Try couldn't say no. When something like this comes out of left field, there's more too it than Ice time. And TBH given the injuries he did get quite a bit other than PP time - so that really can''t be the issue - Maybe the lack of PP time kept his point totals down, thus bonuses, then a bad offer from the Nucks and he bolts? that hangs together more than I didn't play enough.

 

To me this is a MAJOR fail by Linden and Benning who I have been supportive of. You have a Chara 2.0 in your stable and potentially better and you let him bolt? You have to do whatever you can to keep him, including overpaying

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1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

I trust in JB and TL's decisions but they need a coach who will do what their trades and moves say.

Why?

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5 minutes ago, DonaldBrashear said:

Why?

From the sounds of things management aren't the reason we lost Tryamkin, it's the lack of ice-time which is all up to the coaches - WD and defensive coaches. When you bring in a player like Tryamkin from the KHL and promise him minutes and a possible top-4 responsibility, it's useless having a coach who doesn't play him for the first 10 games and then uses him as a 6th defenceman.

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Here's the translated version of his interview -seems family and how he was handled by coaches were an issue - but that latter point is odd since new coaches. Maybe he just had his limit and didn't even tell management he was looking to go home? Who knows - fail though by the whole Canucks Org to lose this kid - too much potential and too important for our future to have just let him walk

 

https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Feanews.ru%2Fnews%2Fsport%2FNikita_Tryamkin__Ya_rad_chto_vernulsya_v_Ekaterinburg_20_04_2017%2F&edit-text=&act=url

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13 minutes ago, Tom Sestito said:

this management is incompetent

You may be right..you may be wrong..I don't think that there's anything they could have done about it either way..Reading between the lines on his statement,he wasn't happy about his ice time (in his first true year in the NHL),he didn't enjoy the experience..and his family (wife maybe..?) decided it was in his best interests to go back to Russia.

 

This is the risk you take when you are drafting Russian players directly from Russia...Alot different from a player like Goldobin who played junior here,

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