PunjabiCanucks Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Vancouver Trades Tanev To Toronto for their 2017 1st Round pick and Kapanen Vancouver Trades Edler (40% retained) + CBJ 2nd round pick to Washington for Andre Burakovsky or Jakub Vrana Toronto gets a great defenceman that makes them competitive and contenders for playoffs, especially if they sign Shattenkirk in the off season. Ovi's time frame of winning it all is coming to an end, the capitals have 2-3 seasons to win the cup. Edler can replace Shattenkirk or add to team's defence if they keep shattenkirk, Flame Away Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 That is absolute highway robbery on our part in the Washington trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Pears said: That is absolute highway robbery on our part in the Washington trade. True, but we get hosed in the TO deal, so it balances out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jav_11 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: True, but we get hosed in the TO deal, so it balances out. You don't think kapanen and s first is fair value for Tanev? What would be make more sense in you opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jav_11 said: You don't think kapanen and s first is fair value for Tanev? What would be make more sense in you opinion? One top quality piece, rather than two middling ones. Tanev should return either a top ten pick, or and elite prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I'd want Carrick on top of Kapanen and 1st. Kapanen is a really good start (someone who I hope could be swapped for a center in the future) but I think another fringe roster sweetener who could become something good would really round out the deal. Connor could be our 3rd pair right-side D and (just like Bonino came back for Kes) getting him back for Tanev would at least replace some of the lost depth. Having him and Subban compete wouldn't be the worst idea. Burakovsky is an R.F.A. this summer, why would we add? We're also arguably most set on the wings (Sven, Danny, Brock, Goldie, Granny, Boucher all capable offensive candidates vying for spots) so there's no reason to trade from our area of strength to fill another strong area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Nirvanagut Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 You are all crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, zzbottom said: You are all crazy. Minimalistic quote. Any ideas to add to the discussion? Or just judgement? I personally think we should just keep Tanev and pick the bpa at #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, CaptKirk888 said: Minimalistic quote. Any ideas to add to the discussion? Or just judgement? I personally think we should just keep Tanev and pick the bpa at #5 How does that help our team going forward in this rebuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Alflives said: One top quality piece, rather than two middling ones. Tanev should return either a top ten pick, or and elite prospect. In the perfect world. But here on earth Tanev's value isn't that high. Getting a first and kapenen would be an excellent return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobidus Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 These proposals are all great and all but what's with trading all our defenseman for wingers. We barely have enough room for wingers in the first place. They're all rather small in stature and all very similar players. Why not target some defense prospects with offensive upside or some center prospects? I mean our wing depth: Sedin, Eriksson, Baertschi, Boeser, Dorsett, Goldobin, Granlund, Gaunce, Dahlen, (Molino, Labate, Grenier). They're all rather undersized, all skilled. Kapanen and Burakovsky are great players but they don't bring anything new to this makeup. The only thing I see them doing is taking away roster spots. I may be wrong though and please correct me if I am. Or at least I advocate having a multitude of different talents in a line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Pears said: That is absolute highway robbery on our part in the Washington trade. And with Ovi winding down Burakovsky is gonna cost a fortune. And if he's available VAN is certainly not going to be the highest bidder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfan3322 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Brobidus said: These proposals are all great and all but what's with trading all our defenseman for wingers. We barely have enough room for wingers in the first place. They're all rather small in stature and all very similar players. Why not target some defense prospects with offensive upside or some center prospects? I mean our wing depth: Sedin, Eriksson, Baertschi, Boeser, Dorsett, Goldobin, Granlund, Gaunce, Dahlen, (Molino, Labate, Grenier). They're all rather undersized, all skilled. Kapanen and Burakovsky are great players but they don't bring anything new to this makeup. The only thing I see them doing is taking away roster spots. I may be wrong though and please correct me if I am. Or at least I advocate having a multitude of different talents in a line up. I agree, I wonder who we could trade for that's big, strong, a d skilled? Maybe virt comes out and makes the team? That would be a game changer for our rebuild. Glass or vilardi could come in with that 5th and make a difference also but I personally think we shouldn't rush said players but if they're ready to play let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVA-1 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 If we trade with either team it should be for picks and (centre/dman) prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 11 hours ago, cyoung said: In the perfect world. But here on earth Tanev's value isn't that high. Getting a first and kapenen would be an excellent return. The stats show otherwise. He's one of the best shot suppressing defensmen in the NHL and is on a great contract. Kapanen and a 1st is the minimum we should get in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misconduct16 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 All of you who think tanev would get Kapanen and a 1st, let alone kapanen a first AND MORE, need to stop sipping on the CDC kool-aid. I for one would be ecstatic if we landed Kapanen + a 2nd or 3rd... He is going to be an impact top 6 winger without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 50 minutes ago, Pears said: The stats show otherwise. He's one of the best shot suppressing defensmen in the NHL and is on a great contract. Kapanen and a 1st is the minimum we should get in return. No point in arguing. People are split on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojibwa72 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Misconduct16 said: All of you who think tanev would get Kapanen and a 1st, let alone kapanen a first AND MORE, need to stop sipping on the CDC kool-aid. I for one would be ecstatic if we landed Kapanen + a 2nd or 3rd... He is going to be an impact top 6 winger without a doubt. I agree whole heartedly with that. Kapanen will be elite in my mind but there is no room for him on the leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 2017-05-17 at 10:22 PM, RetroCanuck said: How does that help our team going forward in this rebuild? I know I would want Tanev around to teach the defensive aspects of the game to our young dmen. (Stetcher, Hutton, joleivi.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, CaptKirk888 said: I know I would want Tanev around to teach the defensive aspects of the game to our young dmen. (Stetcher, Hutton, joleivi.) thats what coaches are for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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