Western Red Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 hours ago, J.R. said: Wow, very surprised you facepalmed that. It was a good point. Albeit, 82 games drags out and we tend to pick highlights/lowlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Edler played so well with Team Sweden because he gave his all playing for his country. With the Canucks, just a pay cheque. I like the point you're making. But... well rested and only playing a handful of games (for his country) isn't quite fair to his NHL day job. I agree tho if that makes any sense. 80% of nights I wonder if he even cares. Almost 10 years of enigmatic behavior . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I will never understand why Edler is so hated in Vancouver the guy is a solid player and he proved it in the WHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Not a fan when people use pride or passion as the reason some players, including Edler, play better in different settings. IMO it's just a very narrow opinion/perspective of everything, especially since these guys are professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, canuck2288 said: I will never understand why Edler is so hated in Vancouver the guy is a solid player and he proved it in the WHC Human beings on ice skates aren't allowed to make mistakes . .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp79 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 hours ago, J.R. said: I don't see that point either. He plays hard for us loves the city. is just used improperly IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp79 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, canuck2288 said: I will never understand why Edler is so hated in Vancouver the guy is a solid player and he proved it in the WHC I think for the most part our fanbase piggybacks on a few opinions of others. All the top D have brain farts A lot of Elders seem to be him cleaning up his partner's ill-advised play taking Ed out of position or and this drives me nuts how the twins change leaving Edler holding his balls looking like he caused the odd man rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 56 minutes ago, Western Red said: Wow, very surprised you facepalmed that. It was a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Edler is still a good top four defensman no question, but if we're truly in a rebuild then he'll probably have to be moved. The question(s) is, who would want him and will he waive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Edler is not only the more valuable asset, he is the most valuable asset. Edler would fetch more than anyone currently ont he Canucks' roster, including a Sedin, a Horvat or a Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Me_ said: Edler is not only the more valuable asset, he is the most valuable asset. Edler would fetch more than anyone currently ont he Canucks' roster, including a Sedin, a Horvat or a Tanev. More than Horvat? Wow maybe we should trade him then and focus our rebuild around Edler ( god help us ). He had a great tourney playing with good players. We should be happy for him and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 People here hate on Edler more than he deserves. He's a valuable asset that would play in the top 4 of any contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Based on recent play, logically it should be Tanev, but I'm not sure everyone around the league values him like we do in Vancouver. On the other hand, even though his play regressed the past few years, Edler is more established and I believe some GM would rather risk it for Edler over Tanev, thinking they might bring him back near his prime. With that said, I think Edler's NTC might crush any value he has if teams that are interested in him, aren't on his short list of teams he might be willing to waive for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp79 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, EagleShield said: People here hate on Edler more than he deserves. He's a valuable asset that would play in the top 4 of any contender. All this Edler love proves my point. I and very few others have stuck up for this class act since he became webber2.0 Go back and read the comments before the tourney. Most of CDC wanted him gona. A few idiots even wanted to expose him in hope of that lv would take him over Gaunce who had what 5 points last year, and I am A Gaunce fan.fan. It's a joke the way he gets treated He was arguably our best overall defenseman 3 years ago and probably the season b4 before he was hurt. , and last season IMO allowed stech to shine at the cost of Putting Edler in precarious spots. Not to mention not allowing him to play the minutes that have proven he shines as a top 2-3 guy with fewer minutes to keep his back fresh. Facts are fact in 2015/16 when all of our D were walking wounded we stayed above water and were in the playoff hunt. Edler got hurt we self-imploded. Funny we did just fine without hammer and tanev for long stretches Maybe if our coaches are smart enough if we keep him they will deploy him like Sweden did All you who wanna bash Edler go watch Webbers last game as A pred. or the whole series for that matter he was terrible just like in game 4 and 5 this year. I hope for Edler's sake he goes to Dallas for the 3rd pick and one of their goalies as a cash dump. He sure as $&!# showed how good he is when paired with A guy that can carry thew play and just let Edler do his thing. The guy is a 30 point player on a horrible team with no pp He solidifies their top 4 and doesn't have to play 24 minutes a game. And if he does they were much easier minutes. Or maybe Tampa for Point plus their first allowing us to draft Lillegren and Kostin and then move Tanev for Kane and the 8th overall pick cuz we ain't getting Reinhart. I think Edler plus A 2018 protected pick, or a conditional 2018 with an option to slide it to 2019 while retaining half of Edler's salary could land us Drouin if we value him more than Point I guess it all comes down to what the Canucks need more. One thing ill say is I miss playoff hockey All those scenarios would really speed up this rebuild by at least 3 years. I'll just throw all possible players moving in and out depending on each trade tell me with Demko A year away who may be another murray is the future really that bleak. I3rd 5th 8th kane, 14th Drouin Point or Palat Calahan Out Edler Tanev probably some picks probably A B prospect plus we retain on Edler and take back one of the stars goalies and one of the lightning cash dumps If let's say we got palat he;s good for 60 points But to us is he a more valuable fit since he is A winger compared to point or the shot at maybe maybe Patrick drop to us if Philly who needs left D pick heskanenain or maybe they love mittlestat or someone else maybe we add our not a lot but enough to make philly move down especially since they are one of the few teams that might be willing to draft A winger or D especially with Giroux Schenn Couturier and is Konecky A centre. Not sure who they have in the pipeline but you never know. They may like Casey better and see him being better long term. tThis being the off-season its fun to speculate on what could happenYou never know what could happen maybe the 3th CBJs 2nd is enough to get Philly to budge Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp79 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 42 minutes ago, timberz21 said: Based on recent play, logically it should be Tanev, but I'm not sure everyone around the league values him like we do in Vancouver. On the other hand, even though his play regressed the past few years, Edler is more established and I believe some GM would rather risk it for Edler over Tanev, thinking they might bring him back near his prime. With that said, I think Edler's NTC might crush any value he has if teams that are interested in him, aren't on his short list of teams he might be willing to waive for. True but besides Heatley and Sundin it's hard to find a lot of players not willing to move. I doubt Dallas and TB are on his list. My guess is it's mostly Canadain cities. He also said he wants to play for A team that want's him. Maybe all this talk over the season got to him A bit Athletes are only human. Sweden wanted him and he shone granted he also was playing his kind of system with A role and A partner that played to his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 9 hours ago, Me_ said: Edler is not only the more valuable asset, he is the most valuable asset. Edler would fetch more than anyone currently ont he Canucks' roster, including a Sedin, a Horvat or a Tanev. Alex, get off message boards and get back to your summer conditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 IMO, a lot of fans overrate Tanav and underrate Edler. They both have their pros and cons to their games and would be of value to certain teams throughout the league. Edler being the more physical and offensive minded dman; while Tanev the defensive specialist. As most of us know (by now), Edler is clearly a 2nd pairing dman playing above his head for too many minutes. That's the way it will stay until Van finds a better LD that will slot into the top d pairing. They're both good players that would be solid 2nd pairing dmen on most teams (depending what a team's specific needs are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Bagues Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 19 hours ago, Where'd Luongo? said: Edit: Oops this isn't Edler hah! Gotta admit though, the fact that many of us initially thought that it was is bad in itself. Edler actually makes an excellent play on the sequence. He applies pressure on the semi-break causing the player to reduce the angle then he stays in the middle, not over-committing and cuts off the back play which he would have missed had he gone straight toward the semi-breaking forward. Well done Eddie. - now fix those frickin' knees and return to your old self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 48 minutes ago, higgyfan said: IMO, a lot of fans overrate Tanav and underrate Edler. They both have their pros and cons to their games and would be of value to certain teams throughout the league. Edler being the more physical and offensive minded dman; while Tanev the defensive specialist. As most of us know (by now), Edler is clearly a 2nd pairing dman playing above his head for too many minutes. That's the way it will stay until Van finds a better LD that will slot into the top d pairing. They're both good players that would be solid 2nd pairing dmen on most teams (depending what a team's specific needs are). They're both 'solid' #2D/1st pair D who would be phenomenal on a team's 2nd pair with less minutes and wear and tear. Otherwise, I agree with your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 18 hours ago, J.R. said: What you see as 'lack of passion' or 'disinterest', I see as exhaustion and frustration from playing too many minutes, in too many situations, above his pay grade, leading to mental errors on a sub par team. He's not a #1D but he's been valiantly (if futile) trying too fill that gaping void in our lineup for years now, all as the team around him deteriorated. Nightly he goes out there and does his stoic-Swede-best to race around putting his fingers in the ever increasing cracks of the damn. I honestly hope we do trade Edler and can't wait to read all the "where was this Edler when he was a Canuck?!" type comments. Being beat and overtaxed like a rented mule is where folks. Its funny I hear the same excuses when some talk about the Sedins at times. I have seen opportunities numerous times where Edler could finish a check and just decides not to. Other times I have seen him basically run over guys. He actually used to elevate his game in the playoffs but now I just see a disinterest in doing anymore then he has to. The worst was when Torts was the coach. He just stopped playing. I don't agree with the exhaustion excuse these guys are professional athletes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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