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[Proposal] Can we make history at the draft and acquire 2 additional top 5 picks?


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6 hours ago, Mackcanuck said:

Lol

Dman Adam Larsson got Taylor Hall from the Coilers, stuff happens

IMHO Tanev is better than or equal to Larrson

Galchenyuk and Reinhart are tremendous center prospects

Galchenyuk has been in the league for 5 seasons he isn't a prospect and he hasn't had any luck whatsoever playing center. Montreal doesn't have any decent centers and he still plays wing. Reinhart is young enough he may pan out as a center. Even if he doesn't I'm fond of his potential and age. Also Tanev is not equal to Larrson value wise. They are close in play now but Larrson is only 23 and doesn't have an injury history

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20 minutes ago, HockeydownUnder said:

Galchenyuk has been in the league for 5 seasons he isn't a prospect and he hasn't had any luck whatsoever playing center. Montreal doesn't have any decent centers and he still plays wing. Reinhart is young enough he may pan out as a center. Even if he doesn't I'm fond of his potential and age. Also Tanev is not equal to Larrson value wise. They are close in play now but Larrson is only 23 and doesn't have an injury history

Oilers over paid for Larson, but they were dealing from a position of strength as they had just drafted pool party and signed Lucic.

 

i don't think tanev will get us someone like Hall, but it should get us a top prospect and draft pick.  As for whether tanev is better than Larsson, in terms of shutdown guy, yes Tanev is better, Larsson has more offensive upside.  Can't say one is better than the other, they are both pretty good.

 

i hope Canucks hold tanev, wait for the trade deadline and deal him then for a 1st Rd pick in 2018 plus prospect.

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2 hours ago, Crotch_Crescent said:

Oilers over paid for Larson, but they were dealing from a position of strength as they had just drafted pool party and signed Lucic.

 

i don't think tanev will get us someone like Hall, but it should get us a top prospect and draft pick.  As for whether tanev is better than Larsson, in terms of shutdown guy, yes Tanev is better, Larsson has more offensive upside.  Can't say one is better than the other, they are both pretty good.

 

i hope Canucks hold tanev, wait for the trade deadline and deal him then for a 1st Rd pick in 2018 plus prospect.

Larsson is a bit more of a hitter as well where Tanev uses body positioning. I couldn't agree more though. I think teams will be more willing to pay for Tanev's services come the deadline. I really hope though they trade him at the deadline instead of holding on and watching his value drop

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On 6/7/2017 at 9:42 PM, Hortankin said:

If I could make trades in real life that I do in ea we would be a dynasty every year for eternity

 

Care to explain why my trades don't seem realistic? The least realistic one would be for the #2. As TB is knowingly shopping Drouin or atleast open to a trade, and Dallas is on record saying they are willing to trade the #3. Tanev is a perfect fit for them on a VERY CHEAP contract with 3 YEARS REMAINING.. please explain

Baer is barley considered an NHL'er outside of Vancouver, he is being given top offensive opportunities and is producing at the rate of a third liner, if he were to face any real competition for his spot then he wouldn't be there for long, and since he's not the type of player you want in the bottom 6.....SEL, KHL, AHL ect. The point being Baer holds little to no interest around the league, 

 

Drouin, though notorious for being a prick is still considered a top young offensive player who has held down a spot on a top offensive team, Baer isn't in his league and Yzerman hangs up laughing.

 

Dallas deal? Meh.....I suppose it's POSSIBLE, especially with the non-playoff insurance. 

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3 hours ago, HockeydownUnder said:

Larsson is a bit more of a hitter as well where Tanev uses body positioning. I couldn't agree more though. I think teams will be more willing to pay for Tanev's services come the deadline. I really hope though they trade him at the deadline instead of holding on and watching his value drop

No, he needs to be gone at the draft, his value is at an all time high right now, another half season gone from his contract reduces his value,

 

Tanev needs to go soon.

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On 6/8/2017 at 8:40 AM, CanadianRugby said:

 OK so your post stars pretty ambitious, but we've seen crazy trades happen before so not impossible.

 

 

 

Then you go straight to bat$&!# crazy even for a homer.  

So you think, the #2 pick, a potentially franchise player... you can get for Edler (who Canuck fans love to hate), a 2nd rounder and a backup goalie?  Dude.  

 

Then Tampa is going to downgrade from Drouin to Baertschi to move up 9 spots?  

 

It makes me angry when I have to upvote Baggins.  

Perhaps the most, egregious part is the Makar pick

 

This guy should NOT go in the top 10, an undersized player in a under skilled league? This has Virtannen Mrk. 2 written all over it.

 

But I just KNOW Benning is going to pick him.....I can feel it in my bones

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9 hours ago, HockeydownUnder said:

Galchenyuk has been in the league for 5 seasons he isn't a prospect and he hasn't had any luck whatsoever playing center. Montreal doesn't have any decent centers and he still plays wing. Reinhart is young enough he may pan out as a center. Even if he doesn't I'm fond of his potential and age. Also Tanev is not equal to Larrson value wise. They are close in play now but Larrson is only 23 and doesn't have an injury history

Galchenyuk is a 6'2", 210lbs Center, 204 pts in 336 NHL games, He just turned 23 years old 5 months ago,

He has played 5 seasons with a 20 and 30 goal season on his resume.

MTL was more concerned about his defence on a team built on defence around their star goalie so they moved him to wing sometimes

 

It would be huge if we could get him from MTL

 

Trading Tanev for picks in this low value draft or for other teams bad contracts is crazy,

If you must trade Tanev it should be for an established top line Center

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3 hours ago, Mackcanuck said:

Galchenyuk is a 6'2", 210lbs Center, 204 pts in 336 NHL games, He just turned 23 years old 5 months ago,

He has played 5 seasons with a 20 and 30 goal season on his resume.

MTL was more concerned about his defence on a team built on defence around their star goalie so they moved him to wing sometimes

 

It would be huge if we could get him from MTL

 

Trading Tanev for picks in this low value draft or for other teams bad contracts is crazy,

If you must trade Tanev it should be for an established top line Center

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/alex-galchenyuk-yet-to-prove-he-merits-canadiens-no-1-centre-spot/amp&ved=0ahUKEwiA9aXT7rPUAhVIJ5QKHfh_B_QQFgg4MAQ&usg=AFQjCNFUYohsgNakaWlCxcHwWOhPonPZsg&sig2=ef74KiYEa4Cf392rXqVSDg

 

He won 42% of his faceoffs up until that point and didn't finish the year playing center. He could still end up one but to say he is a center now is just wrong. And when did I saying to trade him for a bad contracts or for picks this year? We just discussed flipping him at the deadline for picks and prospects next year. Montreal has problem putting pucks into the net anyway. They aren't going to trade away one of their few offensive weapons for a defensive defensemen.

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6 hours ago, terrible.dee said:

No, he needs to be gone at the draft, his value is at an all time high right now, another half season gone from his contract reduces his value,

 

Tanev needs to go soon.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading him this off season. I think his value can go up at the deadline but only if he stays healthy and he hasn't had very good luck in that department. Get value for him before it's too late

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1 minute ago, HockeydownUnder said:

I wouldn't be opposed to trading him this off season. I think his value can go up at the deadline but only if he stays healthy and he hasn't had very good luck in that department. Get value for him before it's too late

Bingo!  Strike while the iron is hot, and Tanev is hot.  I can see Hitchcock and Babcock whispering in their GMs' ears to get Tanev, which will push up the price.

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3 hours ago, Alflives said:

Bingo!  Strike while the iron is hot, and Tanev is hot.  I can see Hitchcock and Babcock whispering in their GMs' ears to get Tanev, which will push up the price.

Babcock! Just the thought of Benning dealing with Lou Lamoriello in a trade to deal Tanev terrifies me. :o

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On 6/8/2017 at 5:27 AM, scheif16 said:

Tanev  + 2 2nd round picks (33rd like a late first) + B level prospect ?

That's ridiculous, no GM would pay that much especially in this years draft. 

If the stars want Tanev badly, they have to pay that high price otherwise we keep him. No way we give up that much for 3rd overall!

Not a chance the 3rd overall is going to come to Vancouver for a 10 point defensive specialist.   Not a hope.

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On 6/8/2017 at 10:15 AM, Baggins said:

What he said was, if a team doesn't want you have to look at it and think about your family. He's never said he would waive. In the same interview he also stated he wants to stay.

 

Now Vrbata did say if he'd been asked in the offseason he would have waived. You may be confusing the two.

Sorry for the late reply. I wish I was able to go back 3 years to find the interview on 1040 . You are right He did say his first love is the Canucks and the city as he has laid down roots here.But he did say if A team feels that he no longer fits into their long term plans it would be awkward to come to the rink every day knowing that the team would rather not have you. He went on to say if another team wants to trade for you that is an honour and knowing that team covets you would play into his decision.

 

That being said Edler IMHO is very underrated on CDC.(Maybe im biased as he is my favourite Canuck)But anything but a complete win for the Canucks and I wouldn't even entertain offers on him.

 

 You hear all the hoopla about Tanman, rightfully so.But I went back a few seasons and the games that Edler misses. we have a worse record than at any other point,except for A stretch last year without Tanev. 

 

Nobody can log the minutes and play the style of game Ed plays. I'm hoping Guddy and Tram when he comes back along with OJ can emerge as those type of players.

I do still stick to my point though Very seldom does A player refuse to waive. In the end, it all comes down to pride and would you want to work somewhere knowing they would rather get rid of you?

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