Elias Pettersson | #40 | C

[wshdrvvn]

this may be controversial but if anyone were to take #14 I would want it to be Pettersson

[FireGillis]

4 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I'm very suspicious of the firm running the lotto. I used to work for one of the big 3 firms and they will do whatever you pay them to. Usually its just giving government a report that supports some position but I wouldn't put it past some of these guys to rig it. 

Nah, if it was rigged mcdavid wouldn't be in Edmonton and Matthews would be in Arizona to save the coyotes. Them ending up on cdn teams is the last thing bettman wanted because it doesn't grow the league. Bettman wants stars on American teams to try to gain more fans. 

Edited December 1, 2017 by FireGillis

[JM_]

2 hours ago, FireGillis said:

Nah, if it was rigged mcdavid wouldn't be in Edmonton and Matthews would be in Arizona to save the coyotes. Them ending up on cdn teams is the last thing bettman wanted because it doesn't grow the league. Bettman wants stars on American teams to try to gain more fans. 

except there has to be some talent going to Canada otherwise the whole thing collapses. But like I said, I see it as very possible, not necessarily happening. I guess just hate my old job too  

[ruilin96]

59 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

except there has to be some talent going to Canada otherwise the whole thing collapses. But like I said, I see it as very possible, not necessarily happening. I guess just hate my old job too  

I am just proud that we may have 2 franchise players in the past 3 drafts without even winning a single draft lottery. And one of them was drafted in a year we made the playoffs (Boeser)! 

[bp79]

Sorry for calling you A douche. I Still can't believe the hate I got for pointing out ud rather have Butcher then Hutton and Steches 5 points in 40 games. He looks like A stud. And may surpass both their totals this year. I do hope they turn it around. Cheers

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[cory40]

8 hours ago, Kungfudru said:

I agree! The whole system is rigged! It's the perfect method to control where the talent needs to go to create balance and parity in the league. The major prob that needs to be addressed though is the incompetent management of these multimillion dollar franchises. There are teams that draft high but still continue to destroy young talent with horrible development strategies such as Edmonton, Arizona, Buffalo. Chirelli is prob the worst gm in the league. I'm so PISSED that EDM gets to draft 1st overall so many times and also gets so many high picks and they continue to F*** them up over and over again. We haven't drafted first overall once in the entirety of this franchises existence and we still manage to do better than these other garbage teams whom are consistently in the basement. EDM was gifted McDavid 100% and they still suck. It's the management that needs to be addressed! 

I feel Kevin Lowe is still the puppeteer. Three G.m's and they still run Hockey the same way  that Kevin ran the team when the fire Kevin Lowe chants hit Alberta. Until they fire Kevin Lowe expect similar results. I do believe Chirelli is floating on Jim Bennings rep. 

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

 

[Rob_Zepp]

9 hours ago, bp79 said:

5 points in 38 games lock them up. I mean the fact that butcher has scred 18 in 22 games means nothing except he will surrpass both of their rookie point totals probobly in the next 2 weeks. Actually already beat hutton who had 17 in 71. Oh and lets not forget Sergachev 17 points. 

See those are the tyoes of players we need. Not 2 guys who suck on And in Stechs case was protected last year mistake after by Edler. But your right lets use his injury as an excuse. I mean louie is on fire since coming back as has Edler, and Tanev. Finally ask yourself this. Would you actively go out and trade for stecher or Hutton? Lawyered! Sorry binge watchingv how I met your Mother btw pretty sure on the post you brought up Icnevwr mentioned how many games Hutton had played. An I believe I said 10 for wretcher. But ill double check.

Put Stecher on a Tampa Bay power play or Hutton for that matter and 17 points likely blown away.   Can only imagine what OJ could do there.       

[Dats hockey]

5 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Put Stecher on a Tampa Bay power play or Hutton for that matter and 17 points likely blown away.   Can only imagine what OJ could do there.       

Well they’d get more points on our power play you know if they were on it  

[bp79]

 

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[Rob_Zepp]

2 hours ago, bp79 said:

Oj yes the orher 2 Agree to disagree my friend. I mean Butcher has already had a better rookie season then Hutton has had in his 3 years. And will obliterate Steches numbera rhis year and last. In fact I will go out on A limb and say both Sergachev and Butcher will have more points each this year than are 2 place holders will have in their entire careers including this year. Ps you can't transfer A players points from one team to the next. Especially when Hutt or Stech would not crack Tampas or most teams lineups. There just lucky we only Have Edler Tanev and Pouliot. Cheers.

 

 

 

 

 

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I could agree with you but then we would both be wrong.   

[khay]

10 hours ago, ruilin96 said:

I am just proud that we may have 2 franchise players in the past 3 drafts without even winning a single draft lottery. And one of them was drafted in a year we made the playoffs (Boeser)! 

I agree. Pretty proud that we didn't have to sink to Edmonton, Arizona, and Toronto's levels. I like the way Winnipeg built their core, and I think we are taking basically the same path. Only thing I hope for is that we get lucky like the Jets did in 2016 with Laine. One more franchise player, hopefully a defenceman, and we basically have the foundation to contend for a decade just like we did from mid 2005 to 2013. It would be up to the GM to tinker with the line up in the right way so as to ice the cup winning team.

 

[Phat Fingers]

30 minutes ago, khay said:

I agree. Pretty proud that we didn't have to sink to Edmonton, Arizona, and Toronto's levels. I like the way Winnipeg built their core, and I think we are taking basically the same path. Only thing I hope for is that we get lucky like the Jets did in 2016 with Laine. One more franchise player, hopefully a defenceman, and we basically have the foundation to contend for a decade just like we did from mid 2005 to 2013. It would be up to the GM to tinker with the line up in the right way so as to ice the cup winning team.

 

JB’s biggest asset is his scouting. It may not be the best in the NHL, but compared to previous Canucks GM’s, it is a welcome improvement.  

 

Boeser... well what to say with taking a guy at 23 who should have gone top five.  WD actually did this club solid by blowing it against Calgary that playoffs. 

 

Trymakin, a third round overager that can skate and play defence. WD was erratic in his last season with Big Nik.  Would love to het

him back on the club and see what Green can make of

him. 

 

OJ, for all the ‘shoulda taken the son of Kieth’, ‘Look at Serge’ IMO OJ is overlooked. His stats stagnanted but his work load and quality of comp greatly increased andhe was paired with a weaker d partner. So did he improve post draft, I would argue yes.  Plus he schooled Serge in the playoffs. 

 

For the record I was pro Chychrun at the draft.  OJ was skinny, smart, skilled and had one of the highest IQ’s in his draft year. Physically he was two to three years behind Chychrun, Son of Kieth and Serge.  We all know this, yet OJ has shown that he is committed to making it and is having a record setting year in Finland, could either captian his WJ team or be added to the Olympic team. 

 

Elias, well looks like JB got his man at 5 in this draft.  Being touted as a generational talent that Swedish hockey hasn’t seen in 20 years or more. As one of the top 4 hockey countries in the world, EP would be a generational talent in Russia, the USA and Canada if this play continues.  WoW. How did he

drop to 5!  Very exciting time to be a Canucks fan who understands how significant this development is.  I honestly believe that JB and TL has EP as their number one guy in the draft. 

 

Demko and Depietro (sp?) look to provide great goaltending in the future. 

 

Jake is still a question mark, but JB has shown that he can find some fantastic potential with guys like Gaudette, Gadjovich, Lind, Brisbois, Chatfield and Lockwood. Safe to say that 3 of theirs six will be NHlers. 

 

He added three guys through trades that are showing great promise. Goldy, Dahlen and Pouliot. Two are getting some NHL minutes and Dahlen is looking fully recovered and playing very well in tier two Sweden. 

 

Re-sign JB and look forward. We are going to be a force as a team in the coming years. 

 

EmW

 

Edited December 2, 2017 by Eastcoast meets Westcoast

[khay]

55 minutes ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:

JB’s biggest asset is his scouting. It may not be the best in the NHL, but compared to previous Canucks GM’s, it is a welcome improvement.  

 

Boeser... well what to say with taking a guy at 23 who should have gone top five.  WD actually did this club solid by blowing it against Calgary that playoffs. 

 

Trymakin, a third round overager that can skate and play defence. WD was erratic in his last season with Big Nik.  Would love to het

him back on the club and see what Green can make of

him. 

 

OJ, for all the ‘shoulda taken the son of Kieth’, ‘Look at Serge’ IMO OJ is overlooked. His stats stagnanted but his work load and quality of comp greatly increased andhe was paired with a weaker d partner. So did he improve post draft, I would argue yes.  Plus he schooled Serge in the playoffs. 

 

For the record I was pro Chychrun at the draft.  OJ was skinny, smart, skilled and had one of the highest IQ’s in his draft year. Physically he was two to three years behind Chychrun, Son of Kieth and Serge.  We all know this, yet OJ has shown that he is committed to making it and is having a record setting year in Finland, could either captian his WJ team or be added to the Olympic team. 

 

Elias, well looks like JB got his man at 5 in this draft.  Being touted as a generational talent that Swedish hockey hasn’t seen in 20 years or more. As one of the top 4 hockey countries in the world, EP would be a generational talent in Russia, the USA and Canada if this play continues.  WoW. How did he

drop to 5!  Very exciting time to be a Canucks fan who understands how significant this development is.  I honestly believe that JB and TL has EP as their number one guy in the draft. 

 

Demko and Depietro (sp?) look to provide great goaltending in the future. 

 

Jake is still a question mark, but JB has shown that he can find some fantastic potential with guys like Gaudette, Gadjovich, Lind, Brisbois, Chatfield and Lockwood. Safe to say that 3 of theirs six will be NHlers. 

 

He added three guys through trades that are showing great promise. Goldy, Dahlen and Pouliot. Two are getting some NHL minutes and Dahlen is looking fully recovered and playing very well in tier two Sweden. 

 

Re-sign JB and look forward. We are going to be a force as a team in the coming years. 

 

EmW

 

I remember watching Trevor Linden being interviewed after we dropped to 5th OA in 2017 draft. He did not look sad at all, in fact, he was beaming with confidence, saying "we will get a very good player at #5." I think they had Pettersson ranked ahead of Hischier and Patrick and probably on par or better than Heiskanen and Makar as well. 

 

Had we actually won one of the top 2 spots, TL knew that we would have to take Hischier or Patrick. I mean, imagine if we had #1 or #2 OA and picked EP!!! The media in Vancouver and in the country would have crucified them to death and so would the owners. So in some sense, or maybe it was just my illusion, but TL seemed like he was relieved that we fell to 5 OA. TL and JB knew Hischier and Patrick would be off the board leaving us to choose from one of Heiskanen (all around top 2D, maybe #1D), Makar (PPQB and the best offensive dman in the draft), or EP (the prospect with the highest ceiling and high probability to reach his ceiling). 

 

I'm just hoping for one more franchise player from next year's draft and I think we will be set.

 

[Boudrias]

2 hours ago, khay said:

I remember watching Trevor Linden being interviewed after we dropped to 5th OA in 2017 draft. He did not look sad at all, in fact, he was beaming with confidence, saying "we will get a very good player at #5." I think they had Pettersson ranked ahead of Hischier and Patrick and probably on par or better than Heiskanen and Makar as well. 

 

Had we actually won one of the top 2 spots, TL knew that we would have to take Hischier or Patrick. I mean, imagine if we had #1 or #2 OA and picked EP!!! The media in Vancouver and in the country would have crucified them to death and so would the owners. So in some sense, or maybe it was just my illusion, but TL seemed like he was relieved that we fell to 5 OA. TL and JB knew Hischier and Patrick would be off the board leaving us to choose from one of Heiskanen (all around top 2D, maybe #1D), Makar (PPQB and the best offensive dman in the draft), or EP (the prospect with the highest ceiling and high probability to reach his ceiling). 

 

I'm just hoping for one more franchise player from next year's draft and I think we will be set.

 

Linden shock up the scouting group 2 years ago which seems to be helping. As fans we tend to get carried away with the moment. The prospect pool is as deep as I can remember over 47 years. Not only deep but performing so strongly at the moment. That said I agree with you that the 2018 Draft has to produce another upper tier prospect. To that purpose Benning has to move vets at the TDL in an effort to garner more picks. The 2018 Draft is so deep that the number of picks is likely more important than the ranking. Would love to have 4 picks in the first 2 Rounds. That will be a tall order as other teams will certainly realize there is value in this Draft.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

Anybody watch the game today? Unfortunately, I missed this one. Elias (and his line) were held off the scoresheet in a 2-1 loss to Brynäs. Just curious if they were shut down or just unlucky? Looks like they generated some chances from the stats. 

[Warhippy]

33 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

Linden shock up the scouting group 2 years ago which seems to be helping. As fans we tend to get carried away with the moment. The prospect pool is as deep as I can remember over 47 years. Not only deep but performing so strongly at the moment. That said I agree with you that the 2018 Draft has to produce another upper tier prospect. To that purpose Benning has to move vets at the TDL in an effort to garner more picks. The 2018 Draft is so deep that the number of picks is likely more important than the ranking. Would love to have 4 picks in the first 2 Rounds. That will be a tall order as other teams will certainly realize there is value in this Draft.

For potential trade bait we have

 

Gudbranson

Vanek

Baertschi

Granlund

Sedin

Sedin

Hutton

Edler

Tanev

Burmistrov

 

These are all names that most analysts and posters have brought up at one point in time or another in the last 18 months or since they were signed this season.  I'd argue that benning has his eyes on obtaining a number of extra picks this year.  As obviously most of those players won't be traded but there's 2 or 3 names on that list that would garner attention and solid returns that don't fit in to our future based on age, production, contract or redundancy of position

[Rollieo Del Fuego]

17 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

For potential trade bait we have

 

Gudbranson

Vanek

Baertschi

Granlund

Sedin

Sedin

Hutton

Edler

Tanev

Burmistrov

 

These are all names that most analysts and posters have brought up at one point in time or another in the last 18 months or since they were signed this season.  I'd argue that benning has his eyes on obtaining a number of extra picks this year.  As obviously most of those players won't be traded but there's 2 or 3 names on that list that would garner attention and solid returns that don't fit in to our future based on age, production, contract or redundancy of position

I agree but I don't think the Sedins would be traded ...or should be traded and I would put Gagner near the top of that list ( at least as far as players we don't need).

 

The Sedins should either retire this year or come back for one more year at less than $3M and expect to get 10-12 minutes a game....

 

EP and BB are the replacements but Goldy and Dahlen will likely be just as good a pair by next year ...so we have 2 sets of replacements for them really.

 

Go EP Go....

[Rob_Zepp]

1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Anybody watch the game today? Unfortunately, I missed this one. Elias (and his line) were held off the scoresheet in a 2-1 loss to Brynäs. Just curious if they were shut down or just unlucky? Looks like they generated some chances from the stats. 

Lots of shots and a bit of iron.   

[Gurn]

16 hours ago, bp79 said:

Why give A downvote yet not back it up. You see to that a lot coolcanuckhead or whatever your name. Is. Why not bring some points and facts instead of just being a douche

Are you feeling ok? Just wondering as you down voted a post made a mere 23 hrs ago, apparently because it contained facts,

 

"Still using faulty math to try and hammer your point?

Sunday's PGT you made the same math mistake and I quoted you  a reply with the then proper numbers but I'll update them again for you

Ben Hutton 26 games 4 assists

Troy Stetcher 12 games 1 assist."