Elias Pettersson | #40 | C

[Odd.]

14 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

 

Jesus, he could have had 5 or 6 points this game.

[cory40]

24 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

 

Looked dangerous all game had lots of chances and could have had a goal and a apple. He still looks like a kid among men, but his talent looks to make up for any weaknesses.

[Putgolzin]

3 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Ya, caught me a bit off guard too but I am one of the younger guys in the group tonight so others pushed and he insisted that Gretzky was insane thinker but he felt Mario was as good or better and never had near the supporting case the Gretzky had and was, in his mind, a bigger talent than 99.   Blasphemy I guess to many but this dude thinks the game and has been around it longer than I have been alive.   Back to EP, he said if you watch the greats they all play with their head up but looking where others are not looking....and the best of the best always seem to be looking at the opponent net out of some portion of their direct or peripheral vision and he says EP does this more than anyone he has seen since Mario.    I find that insight fascinating and I will watch differently - you think you know a lot but can still learn....and I did tonight.

Not to drag things off topic, but I always ask the "Gretzky had a better supporting cast" arguers who they mean specifically, a guy like Paul Coffey for example?

[Canorth]

9 hours ago, Hutton Wink said:

 

Ffs...

[cory40]

5 hours ago, nzan said:

I remember for about a year my dad kept talking about  a prospect who was "the best player in the world, not in the NHL". That kid turned out to be Peter Forsberg.

Now my kids keep hearing me repeating that same quote...

I was a big Peter Forsberg fan. their was no doubt about his talent and desire. And the one thing I remember about Forsberg was all the Hype every time he was on the ice. Commentators talked about his shifts his plays and his vision. And Peter was not the player Elias is. Elias literally every shift does something unpredictable and Vision like Mario as said above. I feel Forsberg was a generational player. I have no doubt Elias is a generational player. Just like they called McDavid and Matthews before they ever played.

Maybe the correct term with-out offending CDC is a generational prospect. How many generational prospects do you know that have failed? I'm not talking first over all picks, I 'm talking players who have done what few others could or have accomplished what no other players have.

  And as I have said for a while Elias can get points with out exerting himself by skating hard or working hard, just because of the weapons he has. And what I am learning about Elias He is a player who can be deployed almost anywhere. In the above highlights he is the last man back and throwing the puck around in his own end. Then he is on the left side on the power play almost playing the point. 

  He probably wasn't 100 % either, just coming off the flu. I watched McDavid trying to tie a game up against Vancouver this year and he went full speed down theright side and Edler just gave him a push around the belt and he was off his feet and the play was over. I 've seen McDavid  going wide all year he either gets by or almost kills himself in the process. I watched Elias today go wide and as the defender went to take him out he slid a pass to the open defender. You can't teach that, you either have it or you don't. Because of Elias size and frame i'm  thinking by September he will even be faster. If he gats much faster I will say he will be the players other chase in the points race. Mario and Gretzky we're almost polar opposites talent wise, Mario never accomplished what Gretzky could do point wise. Yet Gretzky could not dangle like Mario. So pure talent went to Mario. Elias will  be the player that will get points on nights you don't notice him, And when you do notice him it will be 3 or 4 point nights. I 've watched Edmonton now for 12 years (2nd fav team) but if you don't notice McDavid he doesn't show up on the scorecard. I call that High energy points, Like we seen out of McDavid the last half of the year. If McDavid could sustain that high energy he might get 150 points, but with his style come Edler type taps that hurt and slow guys down. Hockey just gifted Vancouver an unbelievable player, Kinda like when Vancouver drafted Pavel Bure when the rest of the NHL thought he was not eligible for the draft Pat Quinn had done his home work and found evidence of games played that we're not recorded properly. the Canucks lost the Pavel Draft but was re awarded it after further investigation. So this is twice Hockey has balanced out the crooked NHL department. Elias and Brock will raise Stanley in the near future.

[cory40]

46 minutes ago, nzan said:

Not to drag things off topic, but I always ask the "Gretzky had a better supporting cast" arguers who they mean specifically, a guy like Paul Coffey for example?

Gretzky was plain and simple a better point producer than Mario. Mario could stick handle around two defenders with pure skill. Gretzky could get 5 points from pure IQ with out beating anyone one on one.  Elias is as close to a cross breed to both as I have ever seen. Head up, he passes when players expect a shot He shoots when players expect a pass, and he exerts with quick speed when there appears to be nothing there.  Elias is still young enough to be learning and getting better. He is 19 so not even in his fast years.

[Rollieo Del Fuego]

EP sees...EP does...everybody else...catch up, keep up with the program.

 

Whatever EP wants to do he does...every game, even though he is so young and playing with some of the best players in the world...EP has one bad play and a miss fire that he would have potted had he made contact.

 

 ThenHe hit the crossbar, he set up a sure goal too 2 guys with a wide open net and every single pass but one was on the tape and with speed...

 

There is zero chance he gets benched with the new guys arriving....I would like to see him with Forsberg anyway....

[cory40]

3 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

EP sees...EP does...everybody else...catch up, keep up with the program.

 

Whatever EP wants to do he does...every game, even though he is so young and playing with some of the best players in the world...EP has one bad play and a miss fire that he would have potted had he made contact.

 

 ThenHe hit the crossbar, he set up a sure goal too 2 guys with a wide open net and every single pass but one was on the tape and with speed...

 

There is zero chance he gets benched with the new guys arriving....I would like to see him with Forsberg anyway....

Its sure looking like Elias has the attention of Sweden if not the whole world. Everyone is finding out who he is. Sweden fans like Vancouver fans want to see EP, Why? Because like Vancouver fans Swedish fans feel their watching something that doesn't come around often , A talent you tell your kids you watched when he was just a young kid. Or a player that all other players now coming through Sweden will compare themselves too. EP has raised the bar. Uni cycles may become the new normal routine for junior hockey players

[Putgolzin]

50 minutes ago, cory40 said:

Mario never accomplished what Gretzky could do point wise. 

Generally agreed, and I'm 100% in the Gretzky is goat camp; that said, most people forget that the first time Mario retired he was the only player in history to do so at above 2.0 ppg.

Also, while its ridiculous to be talking about Pettersson in the same breath...I'm kind of enjoying having something unbelievable to cheer for!

[cory40]

8 minutes ago, nzan said:

Generally agreed, and I'm 100% in the Gretzky is goat camp; that said, most people forget that the first time Mario retired he was the only player in history to do so at above 2.0 ppg.

Also, while its ridiculous to be talking about Pettersson in the same breath...I'm kind of enjoying having something unbelievable to cheer for!

there was talk about Mario scoring 100 goals

[Frankie Sinatra]

I haven't seen moves like that since the days of Pavel Bure.  Pettersson is going to be a beauty.  Boeser is going to be a beauty.  The fruits of Benning's labour is about to come to fruition.  I really hope they give Pettersson a full shot at making the team next year.  He would fill a massive hole in our lineup.  

[EuroCanuck]

I love the excitement of fans here but a few observations

 

- EP is not Gretz or Mario! lol...I know you didn't mean it but he's not that level, but;

- He is clearly a player who has the potential (key word potential) to be a game breaker. I think people do often have a hard time believing the Canucks have a player that has broken records of Peter Forsberg, the twins, Kent Nilsson, all who were unbelievable players. Sometimes, I think its Canucks fan's mentality to either get too high, or go the other way and say, well we don't get that lucky so he can't be that good.

 

The point is, let's also let the kid develop and not panic if he doesn't come in and score 90 pts as a rookie, or is in the AHL etc. Clearly we have a gem, let's let the smart hockey minds we have ensure he's developed well enough to find his ceiling. Even if that takes some time, we will all be happy to watch a decade or more of his skill.

Edited May 13, 2018 by EuroCanuck

[cripplereh]

well if he can bring people out of their seats like Bure did or any where close to that I will be happy

[Rob_Zepp]

2 hours ago, nzan said:

Not to drag things off topic, but I always ask the "Gretzky had a better supporting cast" arguers who they mean specifically, a guy like Paul Coffey for example?

No idea as not my argument (99 versus 66).   They were before my time and I understand though that Oilers were stacked.   I guess Coffey was tip of that iceberg.    

[Rob_Zepp]

9 minutes ago, cripplereh said:

well if he can bring people out of their seats like Bure did or any where close to that I will be happy

I had know a guy who lives in Vancouver that was telling me how much excitement Bure brought to games and that he could literally bring him out of his seat.   He said the only other "star" player in Vancouver who did that was Messier - he said Messier would get him out of his seat, up the stairs and all the way to his car to drive home during the second period more nights than not.   He says those were his darkest days as a Canuck fan.

[RRypien37]

Anyone know his complete stats so far for the tournament?

 

Having trouble finding anything up to date. 

[Odd.]

2 minutes ago, RRypien37 said:

Anyone know his complete stats so far for the tournament?

 

Having trouble finding anything up to date. 

2 pts in 5 games. 

 

(1 goal 1 assist).

 

Eliteprospects have players point totals but in depth stats are found below:

http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/495/index.html

 

just go down the list of games and find the game you want and click on summary.

Edited May 13, 2018 by Odd.

[cripplereh]

I would not go that far, but bure for sure brought people right out of their seats every night!

 

Tiger Williams did at times as he could do more then just fight

 

Stan well he was exciting but not at that level!

 

Mogilny was another that brought some (like me) out of my seat!

 

since I do not know of any that could do that unless a goal was scored, but Bure did not have to score to do it!

[RRypien37]

2 minutes ago, Odd. said:

2 pts in 5 games. 

 

(1 goal 1 assist).

 

Eliteprospects have players point totals but in depth stats are found below:

http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/495/index.html

 

just go down the list of games and find the game you want and click on summary.

Thank you 

[86Viking]

Ep tried the fancy move for the goal. That rarely works but A for effort. I don't mind him trying that stuff playing for his country. But when he is a Canuck, would love to see him just roof a backhand top shelf instead of trying the in between the legs move....but that is just me, more often he will score on a backhand than thru the legs.