Canuck Surfer Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, smokes said: My main deal is not to do with Sutter but to combine Pettersson and Dahlen and make them into a duo. From the things I have seen from Dahlen, he is going to make the team. Rolling with two offensive lines featuring Horvat and Boeser on one while Pettersson and Dahlen on the other. I know it was a year ago but those two had such great chemistry together. If that can be harnessed, the Canucks can have something special. I can buy into your partnering them! And it would be a great boost if Dahlen is ready > I hope you are right! LW is our weakest position, even weaker than our D IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: I can buy into your partnering them! And it would be a great boost if Dahlen is ready > I hope you are right! LW is our weakest position, even weaker than our D IMO... The LW scares me a little this year. Especially if Baertschi would be considered our best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 5 hours ago, smokes said: My main deal is not to do with Sutter but to combine Pettersson and Dahlen and make them into a duo. From the things I have seen from Dahlen, he is going to make the team. Rolling with two offensive lines featuring Horvat and Boeser on one while Pettersson and Dahlen on the other. I know it was a year ago but those two had such great chemistry together. If that can be harnessed, the Canucks can have something special. That's rather how I see it as well. JB/TL have both said the team will be "very young" this year, and not just by the removal of the Sedins. I'm expecting Pettersson, Gaudette, and probably Dahlen to all make the team, and figure they'll pair the two Swedes up with a C to start -- not Sutter has he's needed for the heavy D lifting, so it would likely be a UFA or maybe Granlund/Gaunce. Suspect this is why JB was apparently very high on acquiring Backlund, as he would have been ideal for them. Horvat and Boeser will be left with primary offensive duties and these two will be left to run with 2nd/3rd offensive support, especially considering defence and systems aren't particularly tight early in the season. Yet to be seen how long until EP is ready for C duties, but strength and experience are likely the only things to hold him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, smokes said: The LW scares me a little this year. Especially if Baertschi would be considered our best At this point, Baer is certainly our best LW. Which is why it puzzles me that so many posters seem determined to get rid of him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Leipsic plays the left side and I would love to see Jake get some time on the left side as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 45 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: That's rather how I see it as well. JB/TL have both said the team will be "very young" this year, and not just by the removal of the Sedins. I'm expecting Pettersson, Gaudette, and probably Dahlen to all make the team, and figure they'll pair the two Swedes up with a C to start -- not Sutter has he's needed for the heavy D lifting, so it would likely be a UFA or maybe Granlund/Gaunce. Suspect this is why JB was apparently very high on acquiring Backlund, as he would have been ideal for them. Horvat and Boeser will be left with primary offensive duties and these two will be left to run with 2nd/3rd offensive support, especially considering defence and systems aren't particularly tight early in the season. Yet to be seen how long until EP is ready for C duties, but strength and experience are likely the only things to hold him back. Dahlen-Tavares-Pettersson (one can dream) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dpn1 said: Leipsic plays the left side and I would love to see Jake get some time on the left side as well. I wonder why Travis didn't use Jake more on his off wing last year. He did quite a bit in Utica right? Edited June 3, 2018 by Rodishred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rodishred said: I wonder why Travis didn't use Jake more on his off wing last year. He did quite a bit in Utica right? nope, he kept him on his stong side, for the most part 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, stawns said: nope, he kept him on his stong side, for the most part He hasn't played there since WHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted June 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rodishred said: I wonder why Travis didn't use Jake more on his off wing last year. He did quite a bit in Utica right? No, Greener always insisted that it was easier and more efficient to make the defensive side on your strong side. Jake excelled on his offside in juniors due to being much larger, stronger, and faster then the competition. I think if you watch his highlights from Utica last year it is easy to think he played LW. I seem to remember him sniping a few goals blazing up the left side. I'm pretty sure Jake had a habit of crossing the ice in the neutral zone to enter the offensive end last year. If Jake continues to refine his defensive play, I could see him playing some off wing in the next year or two. I think having Eriksson on the team is a positive in that regards. Loui is a very reliable player away from the puck, and often plays on his off wing. Edited June 3, 2018 by shayster007 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, shayster007 said: No, Greener always insisted that it was easier and more efficient to make the defensive side on your strong side. Jake excelled on his offside in juniors due to being much larger, stronger, and faster then the competition. I think if you watch his highlights from Utica last year it is easy to think he played RW. I seem to remember him sniping a few goals blazing up the right side. I'm pretty sure Jake had a habit of crossing the ice in the neutral zone to enter the offensive end last year. If Jake continues to refine his defensive play, I could see him playing some off wing in the next year or two. I think having Eriksson on the team is a positive in that regards. Loui is a very reliable player away from the puck, and often plays on his off wing. Thanks for info... That makes sense. Defensively he improved dramatically last year, and think if he continues down that path, he may become an elite pk specialist that can create breakaways and generate some short hand goals. Like you say LE is a good roll model for him. Edited June 3, 2018 by Rodishred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 10 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: I'd bank on to start the year; Pettersson / Horvat / Boeser Could very well happen and could very well be fun to watch. I think they attempt to shelter him more with what were the Sedin's minutes/usage though. Who the C will be will be interesting to watch play out this summer. Do we trade for someone like Jenner? Sign Thornton or Bozak? Errikson/Leipsic, Horvat, Boeser Baer/Goldobin/Dahlen, Thornton/Jenner? Pettersson (sheltered Sedin minutes/usage) Roussel, Sutter, Granlund Eriksson/Leipsic, Gaudette, Virtanen Gaunce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 48 minutes ago, aGENT said: Could very well happen and could very well be fun to watch. I think they attempt to shelter him more with what were the Sedin's minutes/usage though. Who the C will be will be interesting to watch play out this summer. Do we trade for someone like Jenner? Sign Thornton or Bozak? Errikson/Leipsic, Horvat, Boeser Baer/Goldobin/Dahlen, Thornton/Jenner? Pettersson (sheltered Sedin minutes/usage) Roussel, Sutter, Granlund Eriksson/Leipsic, Gaudette, Virtanen Gaunce Jenner is an RFA. What makes you think he's going to be available? And doesn't he play mostly wing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Rodishred said: Thanks for info... That makes sense. Defensively he improved dramatically last year, and think if he continues down that path, he may become an elite pk specialist that can create breakaways and generate some short hand goals. Like you say LE is a good roll model for him. He played PK for Green in Utica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, stawns said: He played PK for Green in Utica Right.... I didn't watch Jake while in Utica but it showed in the corner battles and how he'd zero in to the puck carrier last year, that he seems to be 'getting it'. I think Green has the right idea on how Virt can be most effective in the NHL and more specifically the Canucks. On that note.... Does anyone see Virtanen possibly becoming similar to a Kesler, do to his wheels and potential pk abilities? I don't know if he will ever have the same compete or drive level Kesler did but close maybe? Sorry this should probably be asked in Virtanen thread.... Next time! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: Jenner is an RFA. What makes you think he's going to be available? And doesn't he play mostly wing... Yes he is, hence the need to trade for him as I noted. CBJ is a 'cash poor' team and he is due a raise and they have solid C depth (part of which pushed him to wing). It's just speculation but I'd be perfectly happy if we made a move for him, perhaps for some cheaper options on wing which iirc they're likely losing some veteran winger depth to free agency this summer. Gagner had previous success there in what was the Vanek role this spring for them. Perhaps him with 50% retention and only two years remaining + some of our affordable young winger depth would be enough to entice them? They get two decent players for likely less than Jenner will command. Just spit balling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, aGENT said: Yes he is, hence the need to trade for him as I noted. CBJ is a 'cash poor' team and he is due a raise and they have solid C depth (part of which pushed him to wing). It's just speculation but I'd be perfectly happy if we made a move for him, perhaps for some cheaper options on wing which iirc they're likely losing some veteran winger depth to free agency this summer. Gagner had previous success there in what was the Vanek role this spring for them. Perhaps him with 50% retention and only two years remaining + some of our affordable young winger depth would be enough to entice them? They get two decent players for likely less than Jenner will command. Just spit balling... Just checked cap friendly and I don't see them being a "cash poor" team . They have 19 players (11 forwards / 6 defencemen / 2 goalies) signed and currently $13.4 Million in cap space with the cap projected to go up by at least another another $3 Million - that's a minimum $16.4 Million available. Plus the young players they need to retain are all RFA's - including Jenner one of their best young players. What am I missing? Edited June 3, 2018 by Borvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Borvat said: Just checked cap friendly and I don't see them being a "cash poor" team . They have 19 players (11 forwards / 6 defencemen / 2 goalies) signed and currently $13.4 Million in cap space with the cap projected to go up by at least another another $3 Million - that's a minimum $16.4 Million available. Plus the young players they need to retain are all RFA's - including Jenner one of their best young players. What am I missing? Cash poor doesn't refer to how much cap space they have, it is to do with how much money the owner/organization has or is willing to spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gurn said: Cash poor doesn't refer to how much cap space they have, it is to do with how much money the owner/organization has or is willing to spend. Oh okay so they lose money each year got it. Just not sure how 2 worse cheaper players that will still likely total what he will receive helps them. Would be awesome if we could pull a couple of those deals off though. Edited June 3, 2018 by Borvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 32 minutes ago, Borvat said: Oh okay so they lose money each year got it. Just not sure how 2 worse cheaper players that will still likely total what he will receive helps them. Would be awesome if we could pull a couple of those deals off though. Same money, more depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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