khay Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 6/23/2017 at 10:57 PM, khay said: Yeah, I think SHL is the better league for Pettersson for now. It let's him develop in a more comfortable environment. If Pettersson gets anywhere between 0.5-0.7 PPG in his first season, then we will know that we have struck gold. Greater than 0.7 PPG and we have near Sedin level prospect. On 6/23/2017 at 5:44 PM, khay said: Not saying Virtanen is a first line player by himself but more that Petterson and Dahlen are the type of skilled players that allows Virtanen to play on the first line and be effective. Like the Sedins brought out the best in Carter and Burrows. I thought we would pick Glass or Makar but with Makar gone, I was thinking that it would be Glass. Initially slightly shocked but I understand the pick. Dahlen-Petterson gives us 2/3 of a line and he brings more of elite level skill than Glass. And with heavy center in Horvat, I think getting the elite skill player makes sense. All this other posts about EP made me curious as to what I thought about EP. Boy was I wrong about predictions relating to EP. Dahlen-Pettersson is never going to be a thing in the NHL... and 0.5-0.7PPG in SEL? EP laughed his way to double that at 1.27PPG. Sedin level prospect? More like Bure level, maybe higher. lol. On 1/8/2020 at 4:40 PM, GritGrinder said: A bit of a test starts this week for EP. Lets look at his stats through 43 games last season compared to this season for starters. 18-19--43gp 24g-22a 46pts 19-20--43gp 20g-25a 45pts A few more goals last season and few more apples this season, nearly identical point totals. It was after 43 games last year that EP hit a "wall". In his final 28 games last season he had 4g-16a 20pts Pro-rated out to the 39 games left this season that would be 6g-22a 28pts if he hits a similar "wall". He would still finish with a solid 70+pt season, but if he does slow down like last season and the same thing happens to QH then making the playoffs will be a tough task. The test begins tomorrow night... Good observation. I don't think he will hit a wall this time. He doesn't look very tired this season whereas, it was clear that his fatigue level was accumulating fast last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Spence Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 30 + goals and 80 + points as a plus player would be a very respectable sophomore season for Elias and I think that’s reasonable to expect. Would be delighted with that. Year after this he can aim at 90+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 12 hours ago, Alflives said: I had never heard of Pettersson. I was a Glass man. (Glass of Scotch, of course.) What a left field choice that was. Glad Benning know what he’s doing for sure. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Me_ said: What a left field choice that was. Glad Benning know what he’s doing for sure. Petey was probably 5th on the list of guys I wanted at that position. Glad I wasn't doing the drafting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Apparently, Petey is the only guy who's both top 5 in crossbars hit and top 10 in posts hit this year. In total, he's hit 11 posts. Imagine if even five of those went in and Petey had 26 goals. We'd be looking at a guy on pace for a good 40 or so goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 7 hours ago, -AJ- said: Apparently, Petey is the only guy who's both top 5 in crossbars hit and top 10 in posts hit this year. In total, he's hit 11 posts. Imagine if even five of those went in and Petey had 26 goals. We'd be looking at a guy on pace for a good 40 or so goals. Someone keeps that stat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I admit I was very concerned about his size and skating. After missing Tkachuk the prior year I really wanted some size and grit. I now have a Petterssen jersey. I still hope he can continue to improve his skating/balance. I am sure if we look back at all the threads most of us have been wrong at least once. Maybe we should have a thread dedicated to pointing other peoples mistakes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: Someone keeps that stat? NHL.com does I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, -AJ- said: NHL.com does I believe. Boeser has 3 posts. Miller and Petey top 10 in posts and crossbars. Petey may want a little less flex in that stick he has 15 misses over the net. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 4:57 PM, debluvscanucks said: Actually it's a hilarious blast from the past...even better in this thread, start here (although go back a few pages for the build up of anticipation). Proud to say I liked this pick from the word go: How do you quote from a different thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Here is a little love for Jake. He has 3 posts and 3 cross bars and 8 misses over in ATOI of only 12:33 / game. He is getting some quality shots off. He also has 26 takeaways vs 14 giveaways over that same amount of ice time. Bo is on this one as well. These underlying stats can really shed some light beyond the eye test or player bias (of which I am guilty) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Borvat said: Here is a little love for Jake. He has 3 posts and 3 cross bars and 8 misses over in ATOI of only 12:33 / game. He is getting some quality shots off. He also has 26 takeaways vs 14 giveaways over that same amount of ice time. Bo is on this one as well. These underlying stats can really shed some light beyond the eye test or player bias (of which I am guilty) And Jake can be mean and nasty. That’s a valuable guy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBlueGreen Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Borvat said: Here is a little love for Jake. He has 3 posts and 3 cross bars and 8 misses over in ATOI of only 12:33 / game. He is getting some quality shots off. He also has 26 takeaways vs 14 giveaways over that same amount of ice time. Bo is on this one as well. These underlying stats can really shed some light beyond the eye test or player bias (of which I am guilty) Let's just say with JV improving hockey IQ, more hits, intimidation, positive takeaway:giveaway ratio, quality shots, he's turning out to be a more complete player. Practicing with smart players like Pearson, Miller and Rousell, to help him hone the skills and qualities he's lacked in the past I think has helped him improve his game time play. And I almost forgot his speed. Edited January 17, 2020 by iBlueGreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, iBlueGreen said: Let's just say with JV improving hockey IQ, more hits, intimidation, positive takeaway:giveaway ratio, quality shots, he's turning out to be a more complete player. Practicing with smart players like Pearson, Miller and Rousell, to help him hone the skills and qualities he's lacked in the past I think has helped him improve his game time play. And I almost forgot his speed. Players are people and like all people some mature and develop at different ages. Even in his interviews he seems more mature, focused and confident. This was my concern for him as his rep - here in Abbotsford where I live and he grew up - was one of having all the skills but not always the work ethic and focus. Good for him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, Borvat said: Players are people and like all people some mature and develop at different ages. Even in his interviews he seems more mature, focused and confident. This was my concern for him as his rep - here in Abbotsford where I live and he grew up - was one of having all the skills but not always the work ethic and focus. Good for him. Yes. It's not all maturity issues either. Players just have different development curves that vary widely in a sport like hockey. Look at Markstrom. Before we acquired him he was considered the top goalie prospect in the world. Then a couple years later people were wondering if he'd even have an NHL career. Now at age 29 he's finally living up to that top-tier goalie potential. Development is not linear and at the end of the day trying to predict it is still smoke and mirrors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 4:15 PM, ruilin96 said: This aged well... Yeah, considering Makar was already taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaTikare Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Petey for The Lady Byng? https://www.straight.com/news/1349216/vancouver-canucks-elias-pettersson-deserves-consideration-lady-byng-award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 3 hours ago, ForzaTikare said: Petey for The Lady Byng? https://www.straight.com/news/1349216/vancouver-canucks-elias-pettersson-deserves-consideration-lady-byng-award I think his PIM numbers are probably a smidge higher than most Lady Byng players, but if you look way back in the past, you'll find that some Lady Byng winners actually had quite a bit of PIM. This is likely because while they may have accumulated more penalties, they still very well embodied the spirit of the Lady Byng award. I think Pettersson is in this vein. While he's on pace for about 20 or 22 PIM, which is a bit high for a Lady Byng contender, it's clear he has a gentlemanly spirit about him and cares about others (while still being fiercely competitive). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Edited January 24, 2020 by redhdlois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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