Phat Fingers Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 hours ago, WHL rocks said: You're right. DAL would have taken Heiskanen 1st overall. He is definitely looking great so far as well. So if Heiskanen is an elite prospect and OJ is putting up a similar performance while being a year older, what kind of prospect is OJ. Fair to say he is looking more like a top pairing defender as he gets his feet wet in his first pro season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lakers Posted November 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2017 Hey guys! Here's another interview in Swedish, this time with Elias brother Emil. Elias is the topic in a few subjects: Reporter: "What would you do in Elias position?" Emil: "Just keep on playing the same way. Take it slow, make sure your body is ready for North America. It's way more hits over here, that's for sure" R: "What do you say about his start this season?" E: "Well... Could it be better?! He's playing amazing. I know how good he can be when he hits his peaks, but that he would make these many points... pretty unreal for a 19 year old. He's playing just like he did last year, with no fear. Just to make that step to the SHL so easily at his age is ridiculous." R: "Obviously you had a part in his decision to choose Växjö Lakers, right?" E: "Of course. I told him about how everything works in Växjö, what the coaches are like and the type of attitude they have in their locker room. It's an awesome organization, with really good leaders like Sam Hallam and the legend Jörgen Jönsson. I saw in the news paper that he said he was a bit afraid to play with Pesonen and Kiiskinen in the beginning. Like, it would be embarrassing to make mistakes with players like that. But, that's the beauty of it all - Kiiskinen would get pissed at him if he didn't play his style of game. I know that, because that's how he was towards me last season. And Hallam too, he allows you to make mistakes to grow. He wouldn't get decapitated if he made an error, not even if it's a huge one. For Elias, being as creative as he is, Lakers is probably the best place for him to grow right now" 2 4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 11 hours ago, Zhukini said: I think they’re just better than Jake. I'm not denying that. I'm pointing out we are (or should be) focusing on the building for the future - the next core so to speak. The three guys playing ahead of Jake (I'd suggest the Twins too) are not going to be here soon enough. What's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: So if Heiskanen is an elite prospect and OJ is putting up a similar performance while being a year older, what kind of prospect is OJ. Fair to say he is looking more like a top pairing defender as he gets his feet wet in his first pro season. Heskainen's looking like he'll put up historic numbers for a person of his age in that Finnish league. Juolevi is putting up numbers that would have him be the top young defenseman in almost any other year, but he is a year older. At this point, I'd say Heskainen is ahead of Juolevi by a considerable amount, but not it's not a huge gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Heskainen's looking like he'll put up historic numbers for a person of his age in that Finnish league. Juolevi is putting up numbers that would have him be the top young defenseman in almost any other year, but he is a year older. At this point, I'd say Heskainen is ahead of Juolevi by a considerable amount, but not it's not a huge gap. Isn't Heskainen rather smallish though for the heavier NHL game? I think he's like that guy we had last season, who came over from the KHL, and now is back there. What's his name? Kind of useless here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: At this point, I'd say Heskainen is ahead of Juolevi by a considerable amount, but not it's not a huge gap. *Offensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Heskainen's looking like he'll put up historic numbers for a person of his age in that Finnish league. Juolevi is putting up numbers that would have him be the top young defenseman in almost any other year, but he is a year older. At this point, I'd say Heskainen is ahead of Juolevi by a considerable amount, but not it's not a huge gap. I take the runner up in generational finish d men from the last two drafts. That’s what I was getting at. Heskainen looks great, blow the doors off the finish league, one step behind and one year older, OJ is doing the same. It’s nice company to hang in, and it helps put to rest some worry that OJ wasn’t developing. EmW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Isn't Heskainen rather smallish though for the heavier NHL game? I think he's like that guy we had last season, who came over from the KHL, and now is back there. What's his name? Kind of useless here. He's around 6'0-6'1 and about 175lbs. Pretty similar to Juolevi in terms of size. If we're optimistic about Pettersson putting on enough mass to play in the NHL, then there's no reason to think that Heskainen won't. Comparing him to Larsen is pretty ignorant and an uninformed statement I'd say. 1 hour ago, aGENT said: *Offensively Heskainen has actually been playing top minutes for his team. The number that I saw a couple weeks ago was about 23 minutes TOI per game for him. He might actually be ahead of Juolevi in terms of Olympic consideration too: 3 minutes ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: I take the runner up in generational finish d men from the last two drafts. That’s what I was getting at. Heskainen looks great, blow the doors off the finish league, one step behind and one year older, OJ is doing the same. It’s nice company to hang in, and it helps put to rest some worry that OJ wasn’t developing. EmW I'm very happy with Juolevi's production and play this year. I'm glad he's stepping up in a professional men's league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Heskainen has actually been playing top minutes for his team. As is Juolevi IIRC. Either way, not sure what that had to do with my point. Different players play different roles. Similar minutes or otherwise. But Heiskanen is certainly playing well. Edited November 17, 2017 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Alflives said: I'm not denying that. I'm pointing out we are (or should be) focusing on the building for the future - the next core so to speak. The three guys playing ahead of Jake (I'd suggest the Twins too) are not going to be here soon enough. What's the point? How is playing all the kids working out for Arizona? That's what you want? Do you see all of their young talent developing at an acceptable rate utilizing that strategy? Domi, Duclair, Dvorak, Perlini, and Fischer all developing the way you would expect? Development of young players is not just throwing them out on the ice to play. They need to demonstrate their commitment to getting better in practice, better in the gym and better in the film room understanding the coaches expectations. Development can, and does, sometimes include sitting out and observing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 50 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: He's around 6'0-6'1 and about 175lbs. Pretty similar to Juolevi in terms of size. If we're optimistic about Pettersson putting on enough mass to play in the NHL, then there's no reason to think that Heskainen won't. Comparing him to Larsen is pretty ignorant and an uninformed statement I'd say. Heskainen has actually been playing top minutes for his team. The number that I saw a couple weeks ago was about 23 minutes TOI per game for him. He might actually be ahead of Juolevi in terms of Olympic consideration too: I'm very happy with Juolevi's production and play this year. I'm glad he's stepping up in a professional men's league. Guy plays Defense, not forward. And Juiolevi is a 200 pounder. I'd be totally shocked if Hiskanen becomes anything over here. (unless he becomes a Canuck, of course.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, Alflives said: Guy plays Defense, not forward. And Juiolevi is a 200 pounder. I'd be totally shocked if Hiskanen becomes anything over here. (unless he becomes a Canuck, of course.) Lol never change alf . 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, Alflives said: Guy plays Defense, not forward. And Juiolevi is a 200 pounder. I'd be totally shocked if Hiskanen becomes anything over here. (unless he becomes a Canuck, of course.) Alf, if you look at Juolevi's team site, they have him listed as 6'2 @ 182 lbs. I don't know if he ever got up to 200lbs, but he sure isn't now. Lots of 19yr old prospects are in that range, but fill out over 2-3 years. I do believe that JB was going to pick Heiskanen if the Canucks had won the lotto last draft. He was very interested in 'one of the dmen' and I don't think it was Maker. Dallas believe they have a "franchise player" in him as he has all the important skills of the modern dman. The large crash and band dmen are on the way out and are being replaces with speedy, highly skilled and smart players. Dallas' view of Heiskanen https://www.defendingbigd.com/2017/7/11/15941606/is-miro-heiskanen-close-to-being-nhl-ready Joulevi's game is looking very good so far and it looks like he will be as projected; a 2dman. He plays in a better league than Heiskanen, but is also a year older. Imo, Heiskanen will be a #1d on a contending team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: I take the runner up in generational finish d men from the last two drafts. That’s what I was getting at. Heskainen looks great, blow the doors off the finish league, one step behind and one year older, OJ is doing the same. It’s nice company to hang in, and it helps put to rest some worry that OJ wasn’t developing. EmW Id currently have Ristoleinan as the front runner for generational Finnish D-man. I would be extremely happy if Juo, can emulate anything near that level of play obviously. It's still early to tell. Right now both of Miro and Olli look like their on the right path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ken kaniff Posted November 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2017 Am I in the wrong place? Thought this was an Elias Pettersson thread 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Heskainen is ahead of Juolevi by a considerable amount, but not it's not a huge gap. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, ken kaniff said: Am I in the wrong place? Thought this was an Elias Pettersson thread Pettersson? Pfft. That guy is yesterdays news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Pettersson? Pfft. That guy is yesterdays news. I legit thought the Juolevi thread and Pettersson thread got merged somehow. But yeah has Pettersson got a hat trick yet? Guys a bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ken kaniff said: Am I in the wrong place? Thought this was an Elias Pettersson thread ...people being people....just a good thing they aren't Pettersson or JB for that matter.... Elias trending to ultra-elite status....and Brock having the second fastest start ( PPG ) for a Rookie's NHL career ....only McJesus is above him...Mathews, Laine, etc. are all below what Boeser is doing.....Elias and Brock together...BrockEliasous.... Edited November 17, 2017 by Rollieo Del Fuego 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: ...people being people....just a good thing they aren't Pettersson or JB for that matter.... Elias trending to ultra-elite status....and Brock having the second fastest start ( PPG ) for a Rookie's NHL career ....only McJesus is above him...Mathews, Laine, etc. are all below what Boeser is doing.....Elias and Brock together...BrockEliasous.... Brock is my favourite Canuck already and I'm excited too, but it's important to keep context. Brock is almost 21, not 18 like most of the other guys. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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