Sugar baby watermelon Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 what do you guys think of K'Andre Millers upside? A 6ft5 dman converted from forward with a high upside? Not looking at him with our pick just asking to see if anyone has any insight on him outside the odd article here and there. He looks pretty good so far at the U-18s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: what do you guys think of K'Andre Millers upside? A 6ft5 dman converted from forward with a high upside? Not looking at him with our pick just asking to see if anyone has any insight on him outside the odd article here and there. He looks pretty good so far at the U-18s. He needs work on his defensive reads like any young player, but he would be the type of gamble that could make a gm look like a genius with a late first early second round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Isam said: Offensively, he is not as dynamic as Hughes or boqvist. Figured so, but considering all the other things he brings, should he not be more in consideration? Sounds like a more well-rounded and complete player; like a rich man's Stecher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: Figured so, but considering all the other things he brings, should he not be more in consideration? Sounds like a more well-rounded and complete player; like a rich man's Stecher. Yeah. I agree with you, but I think they are giving more consideration to Hughes and boqvist because they played tougher competition at the ncaa and international lvls. This u18 is gonna be big for smith though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Most of you are familiar with hockeyprospect's latest list but I did not notice it posted yet. Looking at their draft prospect rankings in the past, they have been one of the most accurate in predicting how the draft goes. In the top half of the first round anyway. https://www.hockeyprospect.com/hockeyprospect-com-2018-nhl-draft-rankings-top-70-march-6th-2018/ As the playoffs near, HockeyProspect.com has released our updated ranking of the top prospects for the 2018 NHL Draft, which takes place in Dallas this year. Our previous list was released just prior to the CHL Top Prospects game in Guelph, which also included on ice testing. We’ve seen a lot of hockey since that release and our new rankings have some changes. There is no change at the top of our ranking, Rasmus Dahlin continues to lead the way over Andrei Svechnikov and Filip Zadina. Adam Boqvist and Oliver Wahlstrom each gained a spot since our ranking in January and Jesperi Kotkaniemi also moved up our list. The biggest move this month is by Nils Lundkvist from Sweden. The mobile defender has been playing very well at home in the SHL and also had a strong week at the recent Five Nations Tournament in Michigan. HockeyProspect.com’s Mark Edwards commented on the new ranking. “It’s been an enjoyable 5 weeks or so since our previous rankings, we’ve seen a ton of high end prospects and some of them had some very strong games for us. We have a few changes to both our top 31 and throughout the 32-70 range as well. Our next list comes with the release of our NHL Draft Black Book and there is a lot of hockey between now and then. I’m looking forward to getting a last look or two at a few players as we enter the playoffs around various leagues.” HockeyProspect.com’s Top 70 Prospects for the 2018 NHL Draft RANK PLAYER TEAM LEAGUE BIRTH HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT/C 1 DAHLIN, RASMUS FROLUNDA SWEDEN 13-Apr-2000 6' 2.0" 181 lbs * D L 2 SVECHNIKOV, ANDREI BARRIE OHL 26-Mar-2000 6' 2.0" 186 lbs * RW L 3 ZADINA, FILIP HALIFAX QMJHL 27-Nov-1999 6' 0.0" 196 lbs * RW L 4 BOQVIST, ADAM BRYNAS JR. SWEDEN-JR. 15-Aug-2000 5' 10.75" 168 lbs * D R 5 TKACHUK, BRADY BOSTON UNIVERSITY H-EAST 16-Sep-1999 6' 3.25" 196 lbs * LW L 6 WAHLSTROM, OLIVER USA U-18 NTDP 13-Jun-2000 6' 0.75" 205 lbs * RW R 7 HUGHES, QUINTIN MICHIGAN BIG10 14-Oct-1999 5' 9.5" 170 lbs * D L 8 FARABEE, JOEL USA U-18 NTDP 25-Feb-2000 5' 11.5" 164 lbs * LW L 9 DOBSON, NOAH ACADIE-BATHURST QMJHL 07-Jan-2000 6' 2.75" 180 lbs * D R 10 KOTKANIEMI, JESPERI ASSAT FINLAND 06-Jul-2000 6' 1.5" 188 lbs * C L 11 DENISENKO, GRIGORI YAROSLAVL 2 RUSSIA-JR. 24-Jun-2000 5' 11.0" 176 lbs LW R 12 KUPARI, RASMUS KARPAT FINLAND 15-Mar-2000 6' 1.25" 183 lbs * C R 13 WILDE, BODE USA U-18 NTDP 24-Jan-2000 6' 2.25" 195 lbs * D R 14 SMITH, TY SPOKANE WHL 24-Mar-2000 5' 10.25" 176 lbs * D L 15 BOUCHARD, EVAN LONDON OHL 20-Oct-1999 6' 1.75" 193 lbs * D R 16 MILLER, K'ANDRE USA U-18 NTDP 21-Jan-2000 6' 2.75" 206 lbs * D L 17 SAMUELSSON, MATTIAS USA U-18 NTDP 14-Mar-2000 6' 3.5" 217 lbs * D L 18 KAUT, MARTIN PARDUBICE CZREP 02-Oct-1999 6' 1.5" 176 lbs RW R 19 LUNDKVIST, NILS LULEA SHL 27-Jul-2000 5' 11.0" 180 lbs D R 20 LUNDESTROM, ISAC LULEA SWEDEN 06-Nov-1999 6' 0.0" 185 lbs C L 21 BOKK, DOMINIK VAXJO JR. SWEDEN-JR. 03-Feb-2000 6' 1.0" 180 lbs LW R 22 MCISAAC, JARED HALIFAX QMJHL 27-Mar-2000 6' 1.0" 195 lbs * D L 23 VELENO, JOSEPH DRUMMONDVILLE QMJHL 13-Jan-2000 6' 1.0" 195 lbs * C L 24 KRAVTSOV, VITALI CHELYABINSK RUSSIA 23-Dec-1999 6' 2.0" 170 lbs RW L 25 ALEXEYEV, ALEXANDER RED DEER WHL 15-Nov-1999 6' 3.0" 200 lbs * D L 26 SANDIN, RASMUS SAULT STE. MARIE OHL 07-Mar-2000 5' 10.75" 183 lbs * D L 27 HAYTON, BARRETT SAULT STE. MARIE OHL 09-Jun-2000 6' 0.75" 191 lbs * C L 28 NOEL, SERRON OSHAWA OHL 08-Aug-2000 6' 4.75" 200 lbs * RW R 29 TYCHONICK, JONATHON PENTICTON BCHL 03-Mar-2000 5' 11.5" 173 lbs * D L 30 WOO, JETT MOOSE JAW WHL 27-Jul-2000 5' 11.75" 205 lbs * D R 31 O'BRIEN, JAY THAYER ACADEMY HIGH-MA 04-Nov-1999 5' 10.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Alexandre said: Most of you are familiar with hockeyprospect's latest list but I did not notice it posted yet. Looking at their draft prospect rankings in the past, they have been one of the most accurate in predicting how the draft goes. In the top half of the first round anyway. https://www.hockeyprospect.com/hockeyprospect-com-2018-nhl-draft-rankings-top-70-march-6th-2018/ As the playoffs near, HockeyProspect.com has released our updated ranking of the top prospects for the 2018 NHL Draft, which takes place in Dallas this year. Our previous list was released just prior to the CHL Top Prospects game in Guelph, which also included on ice testing. We’ve seen a lot of hockey since that release and our new rankings have some changes. There is no change at the top of our ranking, Rasmus Dahlin continues to lead the way over Andrei Svechnikov and Filip Zadina. Adam Boqvist and Oliver Wahlstrom each gained a spot since our ranking in January and Jesperi Kotkaniemi also moved up our list. The biggest move this month is by Nils Lundkvist from Sweden. The mobile defender has been playing very well at home in the SHL and also had a strong week at the recent Five Nations Tournament in Michigan. HockeyProspect.com’s Mark Edwards commented on the new ranking. “It’s been an enjoyable 5 weeks or so since our previous rankings, we’ve seen a ton of high end prospects and some of them had some very strong games for us. We have a few changes to both our top 31 and throughout the 32-70 range as well. Our next list comes with the release of our NHL Draft Black Book and there is a lot of hockey between now and then. I’m looking forward to getting a last look or two at a few players as we enter the playoffs around various leagues.” HockeyProspect.com’s Top 70 Prospects for the 2018 NHL Draft RANK PLAYER TEAM LEAGUE BIRTH HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT/C 1 DAHLIN, RASMUS FROLUNDA SWEDEN 13-Apr-2000 6' 2.0" 181 lbs * D L 2 SVECHNIKOV, ANDREI BARRIE OHL 26-Mar-2000 6' 2.0" 186 lbs * RW L 3 ZADINA, FILIP HALIFAX QMJHL 27-Nov-1999 6' 0.0" 196 lbs * RW L 4 BOQVIST, ADAM BRYNAS JR. SWEDEN-JR. 15-Aug-2000 5' 10.75" 168 lbs * D R 5 TKACHUK, BRADY BOSTON UNIVERSITY H-EAST 16-Sep-1999 6' 3.25" 196 lbs * LW L 6 WAHLSTROM, OLIVER USA U-18 NTDP 13-Jun-2000 6' 0.75" 205 lbs * RW R 7 HUGHES, QUINTIN MICHIGAN BIG10 14-Oct-1999 5' 9.5" 170 lbs * D L 8 FARABEE, JOEL USA U-18 NTDP 25-Feb-2000 5' 11.5" 164 lbs * LW L 9 DOBSON, NOAH ACADIE-BATHURST QMJHL 07-Jan-2000 6' 2.75" 180 lbs * D R 10 KOTKANIEMI, JESPERI ASSAT FINLAND 06-Jul-2000 6' 1.5" 188 lbs * C L 11 DENISENKO, GRIGORI YAROSLAVL 2 RUSSIA-JR. 24-Jun-2000 5' 11.0" 176 lbs LW R 12 KUPARI, RASMUS KARPAT FINLAND 15-Mar-2000 6' 1.25" 183 lbs * C R 13 WILDE, BODE USA U-18 NTDP 24-Jan-2000 6' 2.25" 195 lbs * D R 14 SMITH, TY SPOKANE WHL 24-Mar-2000 5' 10.25" 176 lbs * D L 15 BOUCHARD, EVAN LONDON OHL 20-Oct-1999 6' 1.75" 193 lbs * D R 16 MILLER, K'ANDRE USA U-18 NTDP 21-Jan-2000 6' 2.75" 206 lbs * D L 17 SAMUELSSON, MATTIAS USA U-18 NTDP 14-Mar-2000 6' 3.5" 217 lbs * D L 18 KAUT, MARTIN PARDUBICE CZREP 02-Oct-1999 6' 1.5" 176 lbs RW R 19 LUNDKVIST, NILS LULEA SHL 27-Jul-2000 5' 11.0" 180 lbs D R 20 LUNDESTROM, ISAC LULEA SWEDEN 06-Nov-1999 6' 0.0" 185 lbs C L 21 BOKK, DOMINIK VAXJO JR. SWEDEN-JR. 03-Feb-2000 6' 1.0" 180 lbs LW R 22 MCISAAC, JARED HALIFAX QMJHL 27-Mar-2000 6' 1.0" 195 lbs * D L 23 VELENO, JOSEPH DRUMMONDVILLE QMJHL 13-Jan-2000 6' 1.0" 195 lbs * C L 24 KRAVTSOV, VITALI CHELYABINSK RUSSIA 23-Dec-1999 6' 2.0" 170 lbs RW L 25 ALEXEYEV, ALEXANDER RED DEER WHL 15-Nov-1999 6' 3.0" 200 lbs * D L 26 SANDIN, RASMUS SAULT STE. MARIE OHL 07-Mar-2000 5' 10.75" 183 lbs * D L 27 HAYTON, BARRETT SAULT STE. MARIE OHL 09-Jun-2000 6' 0.75" 191 lbs * C L 28 NOEL, SERRON OSHAWA OHL 08-Aug-2000 6' 4.75" 200 lbs * RW R 29 TYCHONICK, JONATHON PENTICTON BCHL 03-Mar-2000 5' 11.5" 173 lbs * D L 30 WOO, JETT MOOSE JAW WHL 27-Jul-2000 5' 11.75" 205 lbs * D R 31 O'BRIEN, JAY THAYER ACADEMY HIGH-MA 04-Nov-1999 5' 10.5 Interesting how high Jesperi Kotkanemi is. I haven't seen him play much. I must be missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Figured so, but considering all the other things he brings, should he not be more in consideration? Sounds like a more well-rounded and complete player; like a rich man's Stecher. Fwiw, Smith would be a killer pick for the canucks and for gudbranson because of his hockey iq and puck moving ability. That pairing would be elite along the lines of lindholm and Manson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 After watching some highlights and reading scouting report he was compared to Ryan Oreilly in style of player. Good 200 foot player who is strong in almost every area. Would Lias Anderson also be a good style comparison for him? He looks like he could be a really good NHL player. He has a big frame and will add more muscle. Knows how you use his size and works well in tough areas around the net. He is currently playing against men in Liga league in Finland. I could see his game take a big step next season. He would look good on a line with Pettersson and Dahlen Dahlen Kotkanemi Pettersson Goldobin Horvat Boeser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said: After watching some highlights and reading scouting report he was compared to Ryan Oreilly in style of player. Good 200 foot player who is strong in almost every area. Would Lias Anderson also be a good style comparison for him? He looks like he could be a really good NHL player. He has a big frame and will add more muscle. Knows how you use his size and works well in tough areas around the net. He is currently playing against men in Liga league in Finland. I could see his game take a big step next season. He would look good on a line with Pettersson and Dahlen Dahlen Kotkanemi Pettersson Goldobin Horvat Boeser His game is very similar to pool party. Maybe not as dynamic. Can see the O'Reilly and andersson comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Anyone have an idea of the comparison between Kotkanemi & Lundestrom? Haven't done alot of digging on them yet but from what I've heard they seem like similar guys with offensive skill & mature 200 ft games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe Silvia Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I feel like it's hard to contribute anything to this thread. No matter how much I think I know, or who we should take and when, it's really throwing a dart at a dart board for me. I need to trust father Jim's expert analysis over my watching youtube videos and reading articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, Pepe Silvia said: I feel like it's hard to contribute anything to this thread. No matter how much I think I know, or who we should take and when, it's really throwing a dart at a dart board for me. I need to trust father Jim's expert analysis over my watching youtube videos and reading articles. There would be no message boards if that was the thought process haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Noble 6 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: Anyone have an idea of the comparison between Kotkanemi & Lundestrom? Haven't done alot of digging on them yet but from what I've heard they seem like similar guys with offensive skill & mature 200 ft games. The main difference is their physical tools. Kotkaniemi is built like a Horvat/Kopitar type and needs to work on his skating, while Lundestrom is built like Hischier and has great speed. They're pretty close for me but I'd give the slight edge to Kotkaniemi. Lundestrom has been playing in the SHL full time since last year though, which is very impressive and shows a very refined game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Jack Hughes is insane. Berggren is having a very good tournament. He's playing himself into the high 2nd/late 1st right now. Wahlstrom, Boqvist and Noel are playing well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Addison is probably my #1 choice with our 2nd rounder. I doubt he's still there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Jack Hughes is insane. Berggren is having a very good tournament. He's playing himself into the high 2nd/late 1st right now. Wahlstrom, Boqvist and Noel are playing well too. How high will this Hughs kid get picked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckpuckluck1 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: How high will this Hughs kid get picked? Alf i think he is eligible next draft not this one and i suspect he will go first (or projected to be first). Correct me if I am wrong people. He looks like a very good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, canuckpuckluck15 said: Alf i think he is eligible next draft not this one and i suspect he will go first (or projected to be first). Correct me if I am wrong people. He looks like a very good one! Oh, this is the younger brother. Thanks:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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