Kole Lind | RW

[Dats hockey]

9 hours ago, BCNate said:

 

Giving up the first shot and two on the first 5 minutes in 3 straight games shows you are not ready to play.  Giving up a goal in the first 30 seconds of a close game in the 3rd period in back to back games shows the same.  He needs to show up and make a few big saves or this team is done. 

Never said he played good, just saying it’s unfair to say it was just him.

[Junkyard Dog]

Thought I was in the Lind thread. Clearly the Demko one. Sorry for intruding. 

[goog16]

[Gawdzukes]

1 hour ago, goog16 said:

Because it's the Kole Lind thread.

[vannuck59]

Lind is ready for a look . He is a élite playmaker that will excel at this level is a driver and plays with sand paper. Will make the team next year. 

[TGT68]

7 hours ago, vannuck59 said:

Lind is ready for a look . He is a élite playmaker that will excel at this level is a driver and plays with sand paper. Will make the team next year. 

Will keep getting better as well.  Need to trade a few players this off season.  

 

Stecher, Roussell, Ferland?, Leivo, Erickson, Benn all need to go to give the kids some room.  

[Provost]

On 3/7/2020 at 5:14 AM, vannuck59 said:

Lind is ready for a look . He is a élite playmaker that will excel at this level is a driver and plays with sand paper. Will make the team next year. 

Same as someone above, I suspect he will get the MacEwan treatment next year and be the call up who plays rather than sits in the box for long stretches.

 

One great thing is we have solid enough prospects that we can afford to trade away some good roster players for assets or to get rid of dead cap.  We might actually be able to roll in cheese younger guys for a few years and add assets in return for other club controlled players.

 

If we re-sign Toffoli, I have zero heartache with trading Virtanen and using MacEwan in that third line spot.  You could probably get a good return for Virtanen (or gain is a bunch of cap space which is just as good).

 

On the right side having a top three lines with Toffoli, Boeser, and MacEwan is pretty solid.

 

Lind maybe even as a 4th liner if he excels during training camp, or any other leftover veteran we can’t ditch in that spot is fine.

 

We are also only a season away from Podkolzin absolutely being in the lineup as RW.  Benning has said outright they plan on him coming right to the NHL and not the AHL.

 

That leaves us completely set on RW for a long time and maybe even down the road being able to trade Boeser for a haul and replace him with Podkolzin.

 

 

[Ray_Cathode]

On 3/3/2020 at 3:13 PM, BCNate said:

How often do you see coaches call a time out 5 minutes into a 2-1 game that has been pretty evenly played?

Every time they have a team that starts a Almost every game like they have their skates encased in concrete.

[wildcam]

On March 11, 2020 at 1:50 PM, Provost said:

Same as someone above, I suspect he will get the MacEwan treatment next year and be the call up who plays rather than sits in the box for long stretches.

 

One great thing is we have solid enough prospects that we can afford to trade away some good roster players for assets or to get rid of dead cap.  We might actually be able to roll in cheese younger guys for a few years and add assets in return for other club controlled players.

 

If we re-sign Toffoli, I have zero heartache with trading Virtanen and using MacEwan in that third line spot.  You could probably get a good return for Virtanen (or gain is a bunch of cap space which is just as good).

 

On the right side having a top three lines with Toffoli, Boeser, and MacEwan is pretty solid.

 

Lind maybe even as a 4th liner if he excels during training camp, or any other leftover veteran we can’t ditch in that spot is fine.

 

We are also only a season away from Podkolzin absolutely being in the lineup as RW.  Benning has said outright they plan on him coming right to the NHL and not the AHL.

 

That leaves us completely set on RW for a long time and maybe even down the road being able to trade Boeser for a haul and replace him with Podkolzin.

 

 

 There are wingers coming down the pipe younger and maybe more talented which we will see soon enough...Podkoizin, 19, 6'1  1st or 2nd line, Hoglander top 6, Lind 21 should be a trop 9 forward in a few years 2022 season..

We have watched how big MacEwen 23, 6'3, has improved every season and now NHL ready..If Lind continues his hard work in the off season and his skating he will be a NHL winger soon enough..

Edited April 8, 2020 by wildcam

[Provost]

38 minutes ago, wildcam said:

Will be very interesting to see progress Lind. There are wingers coming down the pipe younger and maybe more talented which we will see soon enough...Podkoizin, 19, 6'1  1st or 2nd line, Hoglander top 6, Lind 21 should be a trop 9 forward in a few years 2022 season..

We have watched how big MacEwen 23, 6'3, has improved every season and now NHL ready..If Lind continues his hard work in the off season with skating he will be a NHL winger soon enough..

... and I am not worried like some folks are if we end up with too many talented players for the roster.  That is when you can make trades to make a space for the new up and coming guy that is pushing to be on the roster.

[J.I.A.H.N]

1 hour ago, Provost said:

... and I am not worried like some folks are if we end up with too many talented players for the roster.  That is when you can make trades to make a space for the new up and coming guy that is pushing to be on the roster.

I totally agree with you Provost

 

My biggest problem is that CDC does not share that feeling.....never wanting to move players for the betterment of the franchise.

 

When you look at our roster and prospects, "IF" everything went well, we could have many positions that are flush, and to suggest moving someone

 

will get a  reaction. Our players are always too good, or too loyal, or too devoted  to move......yet Tampa moved TJ Miller, who comes in here and 

 

plays as a 1st line player. No doubt they would have liked to keep him, but they moved on anyways...….

 

Look at our depth at RW...…...Toffoli, Boeser, Virtanen, and Podkolzin could all be 1st or 2nd line RW, then you look at MacEwen and Lind who if they hit

 

their ceiling could certainly 2nd or 3rd line RWers.

 

Now to suggest that if a good trade came up, and we moved one to fill in another hole, and the whole world comes to an end...……..

 

Today, I look at our defense and wonder, what if our prospects all hit their ceilings, and usually the answer from CDC is that it would never happen.

 

Just like if it was suggested that before hand that we would have 3 Calder finalists in 3 years......yet here we are! To suggest 4 in 5 years and I

 

would have been laughed out of the rink. Yet there is a great possibility that that could happen, and that is not even thinking that we have a long shot

 

of that happening next year as well, if Hoglander or Rathbone sign or play up...……….my point is who knows? 

 

Yet, even when proven, the CDC brain trust will crap all over the idea...….

 

Fast forward to our lack of depth at RHD, and there is a possibility that it could happen there as well. Yet, CDC will say with certainty that Tryamkin

 

will never be more that a 3 pairing Dman, with very little consideration that Rafferty "could" continue to progress, or that Woo may grow into a very solid

 

2nd pairing RHDman.. Again, look at our RW a few years ago, and the same thing could happen. Our LHD, would really take off if both Rathbone, who

 

has a PNHLe projection of 1st pairing, and Juolevi who is projected to a 2nd line LHDman. Imagine having 3 Dman with 2nd Pairing or better, all below the

 

age of  23! Not to mention my favorite dark horse Brisebois, who I feel may surprise a lot of people.

 

My point is that we are young and we have a lot of potential to hit some very unrealilistic highs with our heights.in a lot of positions. 

 

IMO, LW is now our weakest position long term, and if Benning felt that moving a RW to fill in a LW spot, I am all for it., and quite frankly, it make sense

 

to, as "IF" all our players did hit their ceilings....we could not afford them all, so we would have to have a continual flow of prospects in all positions.

 

This is a long winded way of saying that "IF" Benning felt in his opinion that we could move Boeser for a young blue chip prospect, that is ELC controlled

 

in addition to other solid pieces, it would not be crazy. The same "could" be said for Virtanen. Both of which, if you look at them in our collective are

 

valuable players.

 

PS...……….I have always thought that our "real" time begins in the 2021 -2022 season, and that right now is only prepping for then.

 

 

[Googlie]

On 3/11/2020 at 1:50 PM, Provost said:

 

One great thing is we have solid enough prospects that we can afford to trade away some good roster players for assets or to get rid of dead cap.  We might actually be able to roll in cheese younger guys for a few years and add assets in return for other club controlled players.

 

 

[Hairy Kneel]

5 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

I totally agree with you Provost

 

My biggest problem is that CDC does not share that feeling.....never wanting to move players for the betterment of the franchise.

 

When you look at our roster and prospects, "IF" everything went well, we could have many positions that are flush, and to suggest moving someone

 

will get a  reaction. Our players are always too good, or too loyal, or too devoted  to move......yet Tampa moved TJ Miller, who comes in here and 

 

plays as a 1st line player. No doubt they would have liked to keep him, but they moved on anyways...….

 

Look at our depth at RW...…...Toffoli, Boeser, Virtanen, and Podkolzin could all be 1st or 2nd line RW, then you look at MacEwen and Lind who if they hit

 

their ceiling could certainly 2nd or 3rd line RWers.

 

Now to suggest that if a good trade came up, and we moved one to fill in another hole, and the whole world comes to an end...……..

 

Today, I look at our defense and wonder, what if our prospects all hit their ceilings, and usually the answer from CDC is that it would never happen.

 

Just like if it was suggested that before hand that we would have 3 Calder finalists in 3 years......yet here we are! To suggest 4 in 5 years and I

 

would have been laughed out of the rink. Yet there is a great possibility that that could happen, and that is not even thinking that we have a long shot

 

of that happening next year as well, if Hoglander or Rathbone sign or play up...……….my point is who knows? 

 

Yet, even when proven, the CDC brain trust will crap all over the idea...….

 

Fast forward to our lack of depth at RHD, and there is a possibility that it could happen there as well. Yet, CDC will say with certainty that Tryamkin

 

will never be more that a 3 pairing Dman, with very little consideration that Rafferty "could" continue to progress, or that Woo may grow into a very solid

 

2nd pairing RHDman.. Again, look at our RW a few years ago, and the same thing could happen. Our LHD, would really take off if both Rathbone, who

 

has a PNHLe projection of 1st pairing, and Juolevi who is projected to a 2nd line LHDman. Imagine having 3 Dman with 2nd Pairing or better, all below the

 

age of  23! Not to mention my favorite dark horse Brisebois, who I feel may surprise a lot of people.

 

My point is that we are young and we have a lot of potential to hit some very unrealilistic highs with our heights.in a lot of positions. 

 

IMO, LW is now our weakest position long term, and if Benning felt that moving a RW to fill in a LW spot, I am all for it., and quite frankly, it make sense

 

to, as "IF" all our players did hit their ceilings....we could not afford them all, so we would have to have a continual flow of prospects in all positions.

 

This is a long winded way of saying that "IF" Benning felt in his opinion that we could move Boeser for a young blue chip prospect, that is ELC controlled

 

in addition to other solid pieces, it would not be crazy. The same "could" be said for Virtanen. Both of which, if you look at them in our collective are

 

valuable players.

 

PS...……….I have always thought that our "real" time begins in the 2021 -2022 season, and that right now is only prepping for then.

 

 

I've always thought Jake plays better off the LW. Shoots harder. Looks way more comfortable. If theres a glut at RW put Jake on LW.

[J.I.A.H.N]

14 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

I've always thought Jake plays better off the LW. Shoots harder. Looks way more comfortable. If theres a glut at RW put Jake on LW.

I do not disagree with this comment

and if that is what JB wants to do and the result is positive, I am all for it!

If however, JB is not in favor of it, and if the return is solid

I am not against moving him...……...

 

As I am not against moving anyone "IF" the return is positive.

[wildcam]

8 hours ago, Provost said:

... and I am not worried like some folks are if we end up with too many talented players for the roster.  That is when you can make trades to make a space for the new up and coming guy that is pushing to be on the roster.

I agree and get more draft picks or trade for depth in a weaker position....Its a good problem to have ...

[TNucks1]

2 hours ago, Googlie said:

 

those vids always crack me up lol.

[Provost]

16 hours ago, wildcam said:

I agree and get more draft picks or trade for depth in a weaker position....Its a good problem to have ...

Ya, I think people are used to the spare bodies being older players on bad value contracts... those are hard to get rid of.

 

If we have too many good RWers and need to move Boeser or Virtanen.... that isn’t going to cause us any issues.  Ideally that is what happens and when we aren’t drafting high, we can occasionally trade away good players for high picks or blue chip prospects.

it may happen as early as this offseason depending on who can can re-sign.  Demko and Virtanen could possibly be moveable.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Provost

[wildcam]

14 minutes ago, Provost said:

Ya, I think people are used to the spare bodies being older players on bad vlIe contracts... those are hard to get rid of.

 

If we have too many good RWers and need to move Boeser or Virtanen.... that isn’t going to cause us any issues.  Ideally that is what happens and when we aren’t drafting high, we can occasionally trade away good players for high picks or blue chip prospects.

it may happen as early as this offseason depending on who can can re-sign.  Demko and Virtanen could possibly be moveable.

Yes and we will have to move a goalie before expansion draft June 2022...

Demko should get us a good draft pick between 25th - 40th and say young prospect under 23..

Jake is scary to move have to be a top D prospect in return..I see Jake a  22-25 goal scorer, gritty power forward every team will want...

Boser - Could also bring back a top end player..

If we sign Taffoli to 4 yr deal things could get interesting..

Hope Jim moves away from Tanev UFA save that 4.5 million and  trade for top #2 D man under 27 years old...

Maybe with Covid -19 and league cap issues, maybe there will be a 1 player buyout clause ?...

Imagine Erickson and 6 million off cap...Big big celebration ..

Will be a interesting off season..

[N4ZZY]

4 hours ago, wildcam said:

Yes and we will have to move a goalie before expansion draft June 2022...

Demko should get us a good draft pick between 25th - 40th and say young prospect under 23..

Jake is scary to move have to be a top D prospect in return..I see Jake a  22-25 goal scorer, gritty power forward every team will want...

Boser - Could also bring back a top end player..

If we sign Taffoli to 4 yr deal things could get interesting..

Hope Jim moves away from Tanev UFA save that 4.5 million and  trade for top #2 D man under 27 years old...

Maybe with Covid -19 and league cap issues, maybe there will be a 1 player buyout clause ?...

Imagine Erickson and 6 million off cap...Big big celebration ..

Will be a interesting off season..

Jeez. I'd hate to move Jake because of what you said about him. I see Jake as being a pivotal player for the Canucks. 

 

With that being said, I hope the league gives a 1 player buyout. Buying out Ericksson and his 6 million dollar tag would be a huge bonus. Would allow Toffoli resigning, and the others as well like Gaudette, Virtanen. I'd let Tanev go. It's time for the Canucks and him to move on, especially if he's going to cost too much to retain. 

 

 

[-Vintage Canuck-]