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1 minute ago, Fred65 said:

The best comments I've heard about Gadjovich is by Cory Hergott ( Canucks Army ) today on 650 who summed up this kid this way. He comes from Junior hockey where his size and the strength allowed him to overwhelm younger players. He can no longer do that in the AHL where many are bigger and stronger than he is. So he has to rethink his game, plus … plus  his first 3 steps are not AHL quick enough. Time will tell if he can make those adjustment but if he can't get up to AHL quickness .. it makes NHL a dream. Fingers crossed

This guy from Canuck’s army is partly right.  Jonah is physically already a man, and is strong enough to battle with other men.  JG needs to be put into games, and told to play the role he will on the Canucks.  Fight, instigate, do damage.  It’s pointless expecting him to play any other way.  Play him, or trade him now, while there is still value.  

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3 minutes ago, Fred65 said:

The best comments I've heard about Gadjovich is by Cory Hergott ( Canucks Army ) today on 650 who summed up this kid this way. He comes from Junior hockey where his size and the strength allowed him to overwhelm younger players. He can no longer do that in the AHL where many are bigger and stronger than he is. So he has to rethink his game, plus … plus  his first 3 steps are not AHL quick enough. Time will tell if he can make those adjustment but if he can't get up to AHL quickness .. it makes NHL a dream. Fingers crossed

Aside from the comments from Palmu, this is one of the reasons I think the Canucks prospects are in good hands in Utica.  The Canucks seem to be willing to address players as they are and to give them time to work on their weaknesses.  It's of course distressing when players aren't dressed or aren't getting much playing time, but it doesn't seem unfair to give young guys time to work on weak parts of their game while gaining some (if limited) exposure to the pro game.  It does sound better than throwing guys to the wolves and hoping that they figure it out themselves.

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Slow in Penticton.  And lazy on back checking.  Sure just a baby showcase tourney.  But it matters how you play ever game, doesn't it?

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59 minutes ago, EternalCanuckFan said:

Aside from the comments from Palmu, this is one of the reasons I think the Canucks prospects are in good hands in Utica.  The Canucks seem to be willing to address players as they are and to give them time to work on their weaknesses.  It's of course distressing when players aren't dressed or aren't getting much playing time, but it doesn't seem unfair to give young guys time to work on weak parts of their game while gaining some (if limited) exposure to the pro game.  It does sound better than throwing guys to the wolves and hoping that they figure it out themselves.

They are 4th in the Conference so I am getting excited for a deep Calder run. 

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He's only dressed for 23 games. But unlike Palmu he does not have any other options,23 is not much. 

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10 hours ago, Alflives said:

Players need to compete for ice time.  That’s a given.  However, Utica is our farm team.  Farm equals grow, right?  JG and our young guys who are already physically mature don’t need to be uprooted and moved to a different field.  They need to be farmed where they are.  

Put JG on the ice in the role he’s going to play up here.  Play the crap out of him.  Either he’s got it, or he doesn’t.  How many years did we try to farm Archie in this same role?  Either JG has what it takes, or he’s another Archie.  Can’t find out though unless he’s given opportunity.  

JG is a man, and has been for a couple years.  He’s not baby face, who still has growing to do.  

Playing lots and being dominated will damage a players confidence whether they are physically mature or not.  The coaching staff in Utica know what they're doing.  Archie does very well at the AHL level but is lacking something at the NHL level.  The Canucks tried for years to make it happen.  Same with Gaunce.  Some players can never make the jump.

 

You know, people have been dumping on the Oilers lately for not being able to draft any players beyond the 1st round.  I think that their development program is the issue.  Only players who would have made it on their own have made it.  You've heard about putting players in a position to succeed?  That's what they need to do.  It's a fine line, you have to challenge young players but not have them over matched in a way that damages their confidence.  Sometimes, a bit of trial and error is required.  

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14 hours ago, Crabcakes said:

Playing lots and being dominated will damage a players confidence whether they are physically mature or not.  The coaching staff in Utica know what they're doing.  Archie does very well at the AHL level but is lacking something at the NHL level.  The Canucks tried for years to make it happen.  Same with Gaunce.  Some players can never make the jump.

 

 You know, people have been dumping on the Oilers lately for not being able to draft any players beyond the 1st round.  I think that their development program is the issue.  Only players who would have made it on their own have made it.  You've heard about putting players in a position to succeed?  That's what they need to do.  It's a fine line, you have to challenge young players but not have them over matched in a way that damages their confidence.  Sometimes, a bit of trial and error is required.  

not many 16-17 year olds come in and dominate in Jr either, this is the same situation.  His projection is still the same, he just has to grow into it naturally.  I feel that by next year, he will be a regular contributor in utica.

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28 minutes ago, stawns said:

not many 16-17 year olds come in and dominate in Jr either, this is the same situation.  His projection is still the same, he just has to grow into it naturally.  I feel that by next year, he will be a regular contributor in utica.

i think there is some chance he may develop noticeably in the second half of the season

he appears to have the work ethic

 

but i think the true test is what he does over the next off season

and how he looks in training camp and pre season next year

he can attempt to increase he speed and initial steps similar to what bo did if he works on it

but not all can be bo

bo knows hockey :P
 

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On 1/15/2019 at 3:49 PM, Hairy Kneel said:

He's only dressed for 23 games. But unlike Palmu he does not have any other options,23 is not much. 

I imagine the things he needs to work on aren’t game related so having him play isn’t really super important although it’s still rather concerning. So hopefully he works his tail off on his skating.

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10 minutes ago, UticaHockey said:

At the end of the day it's up to the player to earn his spot in the line-up.

 

It sounds like Gadjoviv is accepting what his role is going to be to play in the NHL.  We may see him up with us sooner than many think if he keeps fighting.  

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8 hours ago, Alflives said:

It sounds like Gadjoviv is accepting what his role is going to be to play in the NHL.  We may see him up with us sooner than many think if he keeps fighting.  

It wasn't just that he got into a fight last night it's he has finally started to play a physical game.  He scored his second goal of the season on a deflection in front because he parked himself in front of the goalie battling for position.  He is more physical on the forecheck and getting dirty in the corners trying to get possession of the puck. For the first three months of the season he looked very passive out there and doesn't have the skating ability to make plays based on his skill set alone.  He needs to be hard to play against which he is starting to do and that will lead to more playing time.

 

I think the fight was a statement to Cull and his teammates that he is ready to step it up.  It was with less than a minute left in the game and started with a shoving match between Adams-Moisan from Leval and Arseneau from the Comets.  Even though Arseneau is the closest thing that the Comets have for a tough guy Gajovich jumped in and challenged Adams-Moisan to fight.  It was like he said "Vinny I got this".  It really did look like he was trying to make a statement.  

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4 hours ago, UticaHockey said:

It wasn't just that he got into a fight last night it's he has finally started to play a physical game.  He scored his second goal of the season on a deflection in front because he parked himself in front of the goalie battling for position.  He is more physical on the forecheck and getting dirty in the corners trying to get possession of the puck. For the first three months of the season he looked very passive out there and doesn't have the skating ability to make plays based on his skill set alone.  He needs to be hard to play against which he is starting to do and that will lead to more playing time.

 

I think the fight was a statement to Cull and his teammates that he is ready to step it up.  It was with less than a minute left in the game and started with a shoving match between Adams-Moisan from Leval and Arseneau from the Comets.  Even though Arseneau is the closest thing that the Comets have for a tough guy Gajovich jumped in and challenged Adams-Moisan to fight.  It was like he said "Vinny I got this".  It really did look like he was trying to make a statement.  

The confidence is so important, coming into a locker room with older dudes, experience vets, and other highly touted prospects would be super tough. It's taken him a bit of time I think to get to this point but watch out now, the kid wants it.

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9 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

 

He can chuck em...im sure his fists were mangled after this one though.

He certainly doesn't have any fear of running his fist straight into a helmet, hope he has tough bones in his hands. If he fights like that and his opponent's helmet pops off, watch out!

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The sad part is this is what our prospects are resulting to to remain in tge lineup under cull.

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