SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, DontMessMe said: Sounds petty, but depends on what the whole story is. Certainly, if the Canucks are actually telling him he’s “not welcome,” than it would be better to just terminate the deal and let the kid free. But is Palmu willing? Would he terminate now, or want to wait until his last signing bonus gets paid? Are the Canucks really shutting him out, or do they think his development is better served playing another year in Europe? Did Palmu really burn bridges in Utica? Are they really punishing him for his public comments? It’s hard to know the whole story. I’ve heard a fair amount coming from both sides, and none of it sounds very good, as far as the relationship between Palmu and the Canucks, or his chance for a future with this organization. If they’re really done with each other, and just waiting out the clock on his ELC, then termination would be the right thing to do, assuming both parties are willing. But also have to say, Benning has generally been more than accommodating, when it comes to trying to do the right thing by players. I’d be surprised if management is just punishing Palmu. Haven’t really seen that kind of pettiness from them before. It might be that Benning is letting Cull make the decisions on whether or not he wants Palmu in his team, and just keeping his nose out of Utica business, at least when it comes to this (relatively minor) level of player decision. Whatever that case, I do think that Palmu, assuming he wants to, should be given a chance to come back over, attend the camps, to try to earn a spot. Of course, it’s hard to say what that would entail these days, given the uncertainty around COVID-19, and when the next season will even happen. It’s also quite possible that the Canucks are just focused on more important things than where Palmu is gonna play next year, and are being more indifferent than petty, simply because they have much bigger things on their plate right now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, DontMessMe said: I think the key word is "mutual" here. If the Canucks could trade him, surely they would. If we could simply terminate the contract, then we probably would if he isn't in our plans any longer (we would've done it with other players as well surely if it were that easy) because why pay them for nothing? I think Palmu's side knows that he likely isn't cracking any NHL rosters, so is he willing to toil in the AHL for another team for a couple more years assuming he even gets a look? He likely isn't going to get a better contract with any European team, so he's likely just collecting his paycheque at this point. A 6th round overager pick that is 5'6 playing in Finland and not even the best player on his team isn't likely to be getting a lot of attention where he's comfortable passing up on the guaranteed money. Just sounds like another type of post that assumes that Canuck management is always in the wrong. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Still no sign of him signing anywhere yet which is quite bizarre considering he had a stand out year with JyP HT Jyvaskyla with 35 points in 47 games in the Liiga. Not sure what the internal plans are for him, but if there is no interest to bring him back, he is just taking up a contract spot and doing nothing for your club or affiliate clubs. They should mutually terminate and free up a contract spot to sign another prospect like Carson Focht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Still no sign of him signing anywhere yet which is quite bizarre considering he had a stand out year with JyP HT Jyvaskyla with 35 points in 47 games in the Liiga. Not sure what the internal plans are for him, but if there is no interest to bring him back, he is just taking up a contract spot and doing nothing for your club or affiliate clubs. They should mutually terminate and free up a contract spot to sign another prospect like Carson Focht. That's the sticking point. I suspect Palmu doesn't want to terminate and give up probably the biggest payout of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR7 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Still no sign of him signing anywhere yet which is quite bizarre considering he had a stand out year with JyP HT Jyvaskyla with 35 points in 47 games in the Liiga. Not sure what the internal plans are for him, but if there is no interest to bring him back, he is just taking up a contract spot and doing nothing for your club or affiliate clubs. They should mutually terminate and free up a contract spot to sign another prospect like Carson Focht. Contract spots aren't a concern at the moment, we are at 35/50 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Highly unlikely he will ever play in the NHL let alone be qualified by the Canucks this summer when his ELC runs out IMO. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said: Highly unlikely he will ever play in the NHL let alone be qualified by the Canucks this summer when his ELC runs out IMO. Yeah, agreed. He’d have to be tearing up the DEL this season to really have any kind of chance, especially after (whether right or wrong), earning a bit of a “problem” label in his dealings with the club over the past couple years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 So many of our drafted, "future stars" would wind up looking how this guy will be remembered: a highly unlikely fish tale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Nuxfanabroad said: So many of our drafted, "future stars" would wind up looking how this guy will be remembered: a highly unlikely fish tale. We all want to see the Canuck draft picks do well and make it to the NHL but the reality is that very few that are drafted, do,in fact make it. If one looks back over the last 7 years of Canucks drafting there are only 13 picks out of 48 that have played a game in the NHL. Of those 13 only 9 have played 75 games or more and by NHL averages that is a very impressive number. Still; it is a long shot for most to actually carve out a career and play over 200 games. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Kootenay Gold said: We all want to see the Canuck draft picks do well and make it to the NHL but the reality is that very few that are drafted, do,in fact make it. If one looks back over the last 7 years of Canucks drafting there are only 13 picks out of 48 that have played a game in the NHL. Of those 13 only 9 have played 75 games or more and by NHL averages that is a very impressive number. Still; it is a long shot for most to actually carve out a career and play over 200 games. Yeah, should've worded that better. Tried referring to 'back in the day' when our drafting was so damned lame. Wanted to reference decades past, when it seemed like the Bure-larceny was about the only thing we could hang our hat on. JB is the best GM we've had, in that dept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said: We all want to see the Canuck draft picks do well and make it to the NHL but the reality is that very few that are drafted, do,in fact make it. If one looks back over the last 7 years of Canucks drafting there are only 13 picks out of 48 that have played a game in the NHL. Of those 13 only 9 have played 75 games or more and by NHL averages that is a very impressive number. Still; it is a long shot for most to actually carve out a career and play over 200 games. 160 games qualifies for full pension under the NHL Players Pension Plan (US$ 50,000 per year after age 62) Earliest (with reduction) it can be taken is age 45.2 Edited January 23, 2021 by Googlie Additional info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, Googlie said: 160 games qualifies for full pension under the NHL Players Pension Plan (US$ 50,000 per year after age 62) Earliest (with reduction) it can be taken is age 45.2 Thanks. I thought it was 200 and that is why I used that benchmark in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogersTowell Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 8:21 PM, Nuxfanabroad said: Yeah, should've worded that better. Tried referring to 'back in the day' when our drafting was so damned lame. Wanted to reference decades past, when it seemed like the Bure-larceny was about the only thing we could hang our hat on. JB is the best GM we've had, in that dept. Bure, Linden, Kesler, the Sedins, there are plenty of great draft picks by Canucks GMs. JB has done very well and for sure could be considered the best we've had, but he has some good company at the top too. I almost forgot Larionov, who was drafted in the 11th round in '85, now that was a steal! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 20 hours ago, RogersTowell said: Bure, Linden, Kesler, the Sedins, there are plenty of great draft picks by Canucks GMs. JB has done very well and for sure could be considered the best we've had, but he has some good company at the top too. I almost forgot Larionov, who was drafted in the 11th round in '85, now that was a steal! I'd like to think Horvat was a good pick and FA signings Tanev was a beauty. Ohland was a good pick for sure. Hodgson without his back/Father problems had a bright future and frankly one of the best was Cam Neely, however there were a lot of no hopers in between 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 8:21 PM, Nuxfanabroad said: Yeah, should've worded that better. Tried referring to 'back in the day' when our drafting was so damned lame. Wanted to reference decades past, when it seemed like the Bure-larceny was about the only thing we could hang our hat on. JB is the best GM we've had, in that dept. You are forgetting Gillis took Horvat and Quinn had a bunch of good draft picks that made a difference Linden, Nedved, Mike Peca, Ohlund and Burke took the only NHL all stars in the entire 2000 draft with the Sedins and also took Kesler, Bieksa. The Canucks are alright in drafting but it is trades where Vancouver makes their team better by fleecing other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 On January 28, 2021 at 4:15 PM, RogersTowell said: Bure, Linden, Kesler, the Sedins, there are plenty of great draft picks by Canucks GMs. JB has done very well and for sure could be considered the best we've had, but he has some good company at the top too. I almost forgot Larionov, who was drafted in the 11th round in '85, now that was a steal! Larionov was a steal in retrospect, but at the time the Iron Curtain was still in place, so players like Igor who were locked behind it were very risky picks because you might never see them out of the USSR. There was never any doubt about his skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 man, this guy is still in the system? I thought he was like 30 by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, tas said: man, this guy is still in the system? I thought he was like 30 by now. Hobbit years or man years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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