48MPHSlapShot Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 It'd be funny if we traded for Emelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I wouldn't bother with Trying to bring him back we said our goodbyes lets bring in a fresh face...for these fans to devour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I'd like to have Sbisa back. Clearly McPhee wants drafts picks in return. I wouldn't offer up a 2nd rounder but I'd do a 3rd rounder and try to make it for the 2019 or 2020 draft if that works for McPhee. Clearly he wants Sbisa's salary off the books and we have the cap space to take him back. We can also recoup the lost draft pick (and some?) at the TDL. Sbisa doesn't have a NTC like Methot but there probably aren't many teams that want Sbisa at $3.6M, given he's a 3rd pairing defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Tanev and a first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: I'd like to have Sbisa back. Clearly McPhee wants drafts picks in return. I wouldn't offer up a 2nd rounder but I'd do a 3rd rounder and try to make it for the 2019 or 2020 draft if that works for McPhee. Clearly he wants Sbisa's salary off the books and we have the cap space to take him back. We can also recoup the lost draft pick (and some?) at the TDL. Sbisa doesn't have a NTC like Methot but there probably aren't many teams that want Sbisa at $3.6M, given he's a 3rd pairing defenseman. Then why would we give up a 3rd? I'd offer them a 2020 5th at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Poor Sbisa. Trapped in trade Limbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Maybe someone shoulda told GMGM that Sbisa had negative value before they drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Edler for Sbisa with Vegas retaining 50% of his contract. Otherwise no sale. Flip Sbisa at the trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, J.R. said: Then why would we give up a 3rd? I'd offer them a 2020 5th at most. With what Methot got... that seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Sbisa is good enough to be a #6 on some teams and probably a #5 on real bad teams. In Vegas, he wouldn't even crack their main roster, so I can see why they'd want to trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Adarsh Sant said: Sbisa to Vancouver for a conditional 7th round pick. If Sbisa doesn't record a single giveaway the whole season, the 7th turns into every 1st round pick we have for the next 50 years. knowing the canucks' luck, he'd get a season ending injury in training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 49 minutes ago, J.R. said: Then why would we give up a 3rd? I'd offer them a 2020 5th at most. Well you clearly don't want him back then cuz that's a joke of a proposal. Sbisa at the TDL should be worth a 3rd at the minimum. If he has another year like last year then he should be worth a 2nd. Also, if we were to make it a 2019 or 2020 3rd and then turn around and trade Sbisa at the TDL for a 2018 3rd, that's a win for our rebuild. Not every trade needs to be a homerun. Providing we can reacquire the draft pick (pretty much a given), the reacquisition of Sbisa would be well worth it because it would prevent us from rushing Juolevi and/or overpaying in money and term for a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Provost said: With what Methot got... that seems about right. Methot has an extra year on his contract and is a top 4 defenseman. So obviously he is going to be worth more. But tell me, how many 5th round picks would you trade for your 2nd and 7th rounders? 8? 10? Methot is not 10x the player that Sbisa is. Hense the 3rd round pick I suggested, which is easily recoupable at the TDL. The thing about trades is that BOTH teams need to agree to them. A 5th rounder gets you Raphael Diaz, not Luca Sbisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 who cares if Sbisa is available, rearrange the deck chairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 6th for Sbisa only if Vegas retains 50%.... so we can pay what we should have signed him for in the first place. Benning uses his Mulligan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, rawkdrummer said: who cares if Sbisa is available, rearrange the deck chairs I'm all for change but I think we need to think about what change looks like. Is Juolevi physically ready to make the jump from junior to the NHL or could he use 1 more year to develop? Is Holm ready to play in the NHL or should we get him some seasoning on the NA ice in Utica? Are there better/cheaper options available in free agency? If so, do these options actually want to sign in Vancouver without being overpaid in dollars and term? These are the questions that need to be answered. You don't just make changes for the hell of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Crabcakes said: So since Benning wouldn't give way to extortion and cough up a 3rd for McPhee to leave Sbisa alone, McPhee will turn around and flip Sbisa for a 3rd. Have a nice time in purgatory Luca The feedback so far on JB's 3rd round pick isn't so bad. Besides, if Sbisa doesn't represent growth for the club either as the player himself or as a future trade asset, perhaps he was just blocking the way for a brighter future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I think we should just close the book on Sbisa. If we want a D go after Kulikov in free agency instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: Well you clearly don't want him back then cuz that's a joke of a proposal. Sbisa at the TDL should be worth a 3rd at the minimum. If he has another year like last year then he should be worth a 2nd. Also, if we were to make it a 2019 or 2020 3rd and then turn around and trade Sbisa at the TDL for a 2018 3rd, that's a win for our rebuild. Not every trade needs to be a homerun. Providing we can reacquire the draft pick (pretty much a given), the reacquisition of Sbisa would be well worth it because it would prevent us from rushing Juolevi and/or overpaying in money and term for a UFA. Ok I may have been exaggerating to prove a point and would pay a bit more than a 2020 5th. But really, not a lot more. We can simply sign a UFA (and maybe even upgrade on Sbisa) while giving up no assets. According to most of CDC and sports media, Sbisa was overpaid himself anyway. We in no way should be trading anything as valuable as a 3rd for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: Methot has an extra year on his contract and is a top 4 defenseman. So obviously he is going to be worth more. But tell me, how many 5th round picks would you trade for your 2nd and 7th rounders? 8? 10? Methot is not 10x the player that Sbisa is. Hense the 3rd round pick I suggested, which is easily recoupable at the TDL. The thing about trades is that BOTH teams need to agree to them. A 5th rounder gets you Raphael Diaz, not Luca Sbisa. So much contradiction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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