Provost Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 The idea is that these guys are still really young, and at some point after a few chances slip away may "get" it. in our position where we will be icing players who max out at the level these talented busts achieve in a bad year, you are only looking at upside. The risk is that you waive them if they don't work. Whrn saying we don't have room on the roster, don't make the mistake of using pen for your lineup and including all our young prospects. Goldobin, Virtanen, Boucher, Boeser, Molina, Juolevi, Pedan, Holm..: none of them are locks as NHLers, never mind most of them. We also have almost no one left on the farm for call ups after those names. We could and should add a mix of reclamation projects, cheap veteran UFAs, and PTOs coming into camp to create competition and have a legitimate chance to show they can crack a thin roster. Brett Connolly is another guy to look at (BC born) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Provost said: Brett Connolly is another guy to look at (BC born) He extended with Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ronaldoescobar Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Hard pass by JB. He doenst fit the type of player the nucks are looking for, same as Yakupov. Other than perhaps an overpaid vet Dman I dont see the nucks doing much with this UFA class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Monty said: He extended with Washington. Ya, I just saw that... too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Provost said: Go look at Gaunce's totals To be fair.... Gaunce has always been projected as a bottom-6 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, Lancaster said: To be fair.... Gaunce has always been projected as a bottom-6 guy. Never mind, must have been thinking of someone else. I guess it was 2009-2010 he put up 148 points but it was only the one time, not bottom-6 numbers but you have to be able to do it more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, Lancaster said: To be fair.... Gaunce has always been projected as a bottom-6 guy. That is kind of the point. If you forget about draft expectations, those players are superior to our current bottom six and depth players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Provost said: That is kind of the point. If you forget about draft expectations, those players are superior to our current bottom six and depth players. It depends on the type of player and their style of play. Not every skilled guy can play in a non-skilled role. I'm not familiar with Grigorenko's style of play, but I would assume he won't be fitting on the 4th line (where Gaunce would probably be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Lancaster said: It depends on the type of player and their style of play. Not every skilled guy can play in a non-skilled role. I'm not familiar with Grigorenko's style of play, but I would assume he won't be fitting on the 4th line (where Gaunce would probably be). How about playing a fourth line that has skill, and can score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, Alflives said: How about playing a fourth line that has skill, and can score? Fourth line? I'd be happy with the Canucks just having 2 lines that can score, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, Lancaster said: It depends on the type of player and their style of play. Not every skilled guy can play in a non-skilled role. I'm not familiar with Grigorenko's style of play, but I would assume he won't be fitting on the 4th line (where Gaunce would probably be). He's not a gritty guy, but he is good in the faceoff circle (57.8%) and he's solid enough defensively aside from lacking grit. One thing that may be worth noting - the entire Colorado Avalanche were horrible last year - so putting Grigorenko's production in context may be worthwhile. He was their 6th leading scorer with 23 points. Landeskog only managed 33. Guys like Soderberg and Colborne dropped right off a cliff there. Nathan McKinnon scored one more point than Bo, and two more than Henrik, who even at 36 had a relative struggle of a season. So no one looked good in Colorado last year, and some had seriously deflated numbers. Perhaps Manny can work with him to turn him into a Malhotra V2.0. He hasn't been able to produce much (even with decent linemates) - and he doesn't have Malhotra's mobility - but he could be an interesting guy to put between Gaunce and Dorsett on the fourth line. However, in the end, I'm not sure he's much better than Chaput, who is a good faceoff guy himself, has good underlying numbers, motors around working hard, is more physical, and just has that energy, work ethic and drive you want in your bottom six. It's debatable whether Grigorenko could compete Chaput out of a spot. I'd probably be more inclined to give Yakupov an opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I would take a chance on him for sure. We always have a bunch of low end low ceiling prospects and fillers on our roster (Cramarossa, Skille, Megna, Gaunce.....ect), why not take a flyer on guys who actually have the potential to develop into players who can produce. We are in a great time in our rebuild to be able to do this, as we wouldn't be taking the ice time away from developing prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I'd take a flyer on him and see if he can turn it around. Low risk, high return if right coach can get him moving the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 This isn't surprising at all, Unlike Nail this guy actually SUCKS....yes, he's bad, really bad Keep him FAR away from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Alflives said: How about playing a fourth line that has skill, and can score? You have no idea how bad this guy is He will not score, here or anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 16 hours ago, Provost said: While I think Boeser probably stays, I have no heartache having the rest of the young guys who are eligible go down and compete in meaningful games rather than get beat up every night. It is going to be a depressing year and keeping our kids away from it has some merit, so why not bring in some reclamation guys and see if any of them turn out, and/or are worth something at the deadline. Yes, I think Boeser will not only be up here but be fighting it out with Bo for the scoring lead, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 18 hours ago, pluralsight said: There have been rumours that Grigorenko isn't actually as young as he says he is. He is listed as being born in 1994, but it's been reported in the past that he might actually be at least a couple of years older. Yep, I was going to mention that, and I read somewhere he may be up to 5 years older than he claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, terrible.dee said: You have no idea how bad this guy is He will not score, here or anywhere How many goals does Gaunce have? So he's not a potential upgrade on Gaunce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 6/27/2017 at 9:23 AM, S'all Good Man said: With all the qualifying offers, new kids and even free agents we actually might be a team that loses a guy to waivers next season thats a nice change Can you ask Frank to Corrado rate that Theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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