Christy Clark to resign as BC Liberal Leader

[Ajax-]

55 minutes ago, DonLever said:

Good riddance.  Christy Clark ran an incredibly inept election campaign.   She got outsmarted by the NDP when she announced a cap on tolls on bridges south of the Fraser.  Then the NDP said no tolls, costing her almost all of the Surrey ridings, which probably  help in a big measure to her defeat.   Sometimes you have to bribe the voters which most political campaigns seem to understand.   For example, Trudeau promised lower taxes for the middle classes.   What did Clark do to entice voters, nothing,  except lower MSP Premiums which 1/2 the population don't even pay since they are covered at work.

 

Now we come to Clark herself.   She was dislike by many, including Liberal voters.  Her fake smile turned everyone off.   The campaign became personal, "anyone but Clark".  When this happened you know your campaign is in trouble.   The last straw was the flip flops after the election.  She promised to not ask for a new election yet asked for one from the LG.   Then she adopted the very platform the NDP ran under:  more social spending and no tolls.   That must gone well with the fiscal conservative wing of the party.  It just proved that's she wanted to hold onto power without any convictions.

 

The question is whether she was pushed out or did she left on her own.  A lot of people in the party was not happy with her performance.  The BC Liberals, like the Socreds before, are a coalition of Federal Liberals and Federal Conservatives on the organizational level.  There is always tension in the party.  Which side has the upper hand is always in flux.   When Clark became leader of the BC Liberals,  some disliked her because of the ties to the Federal Liberals.  The were ready to turf her out if she had lost her first election.  Unexpected she won her first election.  Maybe its the group that wanted her out years ago are the same group that pushed her out.

Good riddance????.  Want more fast ferries? higher Welfare rates? crank the minimum wage? increase tax on business?  God people forget how well the last NDP did. Lower MSP premiums are a bad thing? Ask any self employed person or business owner their thoughts. 

BC lead all of Canada in 2016 in economic growth. In the Black the past few years..........................

She did her job, period. They won the most seats, period.

 

Good time to be a teacher, government employee or in a union. 

[kingofsurrey]

Just now, AbrasiveAjax said:

Good riddance????.  Want more fast ferries? higher Welfare rates? crank the minimum wage? increase tax on business?  God people forget how well the last NDP did. Lower MSP premiums are a bad thing? Ask any self employed person or business owner their thoughts. 

BC lead all of Canada in 2016 in economic growth. In the Black the past few years..........................

She did her job, period. They won the most seats, period.

 

Good time to be a teacher, government employee or in a union. 

Good time to a BC citizen . Period.

 

Best day of the year.  Fantastic news.  There will be celebrations all over BC by citizens that just want a return to a  decent middle class lifestyle in this province...

[Ajax-]

3 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Just a FANTASTIC day for all BCer's.

 

Wow.  REALLY great news.   Not sure how long it will take for our once fantastic province to recover from all the damage her governments have inflicted on this province...

 

Time to open a bottle and start to celebrate.....      Such GREAT NEWS for our province. 

Great open a bottle and celebrate. Can you expand on the damage her government has done? 

BC lead all provinces in 2016 in Growth, https://www.biv.com/article/2017/5/bc-had-canadas-strongest-economic-growth-2016-stat/

So now what? more fast ferries, increase welfare rates and minimum wage? Lets all go work for the government or be teachers.

[Ajax-]

4 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Good time to a BC citizen . Period.

 

Best day of the year.  Fantastic news.  There will be celebrations all over BC by citizens that just want a return to a  decent middle class lifestyle in this province...

how does her resignation from the Leadership "return to a decent middle class lifestyle"

 

I"ll all ears buddy

[kingofsurrey]

20 hours ago, AbrasiveAjax said:

Great open a bottle and celebrate. Can you expand on the damage her government has done? 

BC lead all provinces in 2016 in Growth, https://www.biv.com/article/2017/5/bc-had-canadas-strongest-economic-growth-2016-stat/

So now what? more fast ferries, increase welfare rates and minimum wage? Lets all go work for the government or be teachers.

 

[Ajax-]

2 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Supporting the creation of  McJobs thay pay 11.25   dollars an hour  while watching idly as our housing situation imploded....

 

Good riddens to the duchess of dunbar.   Hopefully the good people of west okanagon wake up and vote  NDP/Green this time. 

Nice how CC quit on them so quickly...

Wow, I see that you really See the big picture. Housing Imploded???? increased minimum wage???

 

your local union wants you

[kingofsurrey]

10 minutes ago, AbrasiveAjax said:

 

Good time to be a teacher, government employee or in a union. 

Not sure about that.... but definately  a  better  time to be a special needs kid in the BC school system.

Shameful what the BC liberal government did to special education services in the BC school system. 

 

[kingofsurrey]

2 minutes ago, AbrasiveAjax said:

Wow, I see that you really See the big picture. Housing Imploded???? increased minimum wage???

 

your local union wants you

Unions are next to dead in BC.

 

People just want good government.  More support needs to go to small business in BC.  Small business is the key to the future of BC.

Not wasting money on not needed  short term mega projects that will only lose money for generations...

 

[Fanuck]

Shows how much she cared about her constituents - quits as soon as she can't get her way anymore.   

Good riddance - please allow the door to hit you on the way out. 

[PhillipBlunt]

5 minutes ago, Fanuck said:

Shows how much she cared about her constituents - quits as soon as she can't get her way anymore.   

Good riddance - please allow the door to hit you on the way out. 

A huge thousand pound door covered in C4.

[dominicanbob]

49 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Just a FANTASTIC day for all BCer's.

 

Wow.  REALLY great news.   Not sure how long it will take for our once fantastic province to recover from all the damage her governments have inflicted on this province...

 

Time to open a bottle and start to celebrate.....      Such GREAT NEWS for our province. 

Well it won't happen with the NDP in power.

[luckylager]

51 minutes ago, DonLever said:

Gordon Campbell and Kevin Falcon are Conservatives.   Christy Clark is on the Federal Liberal faction of the BC Liberal coalition.

 

From the Globe and Mail, 2011:

 

 

So when she appointed a dozen or so Federal and Alberta Conservatives to positions in the BC Liberal Gov. that was what, pandering to the Federal Liberals?

[Glory_Days]

49 minutes ago, AbrasiveAjax said:

Good riddance????.  Want more fast ferries? higher Welfare rates? crank the minimum wage? increase tax on business?  God people forget how well the last NDP did. Lower MSP premiums are a bad thing? Ask any self employed person or business owner their thoughts. 

BC lead all of Canada in 2016 in economic growth. In the Black the past few years..........................

She did her job, period. They won the most seats, period.

 

Good time to be a teacher, government employee or in a union. 

16 years and counting since a lot of that garbage happened. By your logic, anything that has been done by political parties in the past should be held against them for what? Ever? 50 years? 150 years? Should no one ever vote Democratic in the US because they were in favour of slavery during the Civil War?

Fast Ferries - That's just drudging up garbage from the past

Minimum Wage - This does need to increase, should it jump from $10.75?? (Not sure what minimum is atm) to maybe $15/$16 overnight? No, but it does need to go up.

Increase Tax on business' - This is far too detailed and intricate an issue to be able to argue about in one or two paragraphs let alone a sentence or two. Jacking up taxes on business by a large amount is no good though, I'll give you that.

Welfare Rates - Not against increase in this either, do wish they would take a better approach then just handing out money for nothing though. Need better job placement/training programs.

 

Teacher's have been run roughshod over. They really don't make that great of money for the amount of schooling they had to go through. They also put in a lot more hours (most of them) then the regular 9-5 job. All the lesson plans they have to come up with, the marking of work, the helping of students before/after class. Supplying their own materials out of own pocket at times. Having to deal with extremely large class sizes.

[Gnarcore]

1 hour ago, Burnt Gravy said:

I have a major crush on her for some reason. I don't even hear words the out of her mouth when she is speaking. If it wasn't for written language, I wouldn't even know she was a politician. 

 

I wish I was her boy slave kept locked in the garden shed to be honest. 

[Gnarcore]

1 hour ago, AbrasiveAjax said:

Good riddance????.  Want more fast ferries? higher Welfare rates? crank the minimum wage? increase tax on business?  God people forget how well the last NDP did. Lower MSP premiums are a bad thing? Ask any self employed person or business owner their thoughts. 

BC lead all of Canada in 2016 in economic growth. In the Black the past few years..........................

She did her job, period. They won the most seats, period.

 

Good time to be a teacher, government employee or in a union. 

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/07/25/BC-NDP-Dismal-Decade/

 

BC NDP’s So-Called ‘Dismal Decade’ Never Was

In many ways the party outperformed Socreds and BC Libs, as BC’s Business Council knows.

 

Now that BC NDP Premier John Horgan has taken office, expect to hear a lot from the surly BC Liberal opposition about how horrible the 1990s economy was when the New Democrats were last in power.

Horgan and the NDP will bring back the so-called “dismal decade” or “decade of decline,” as ex-BC Liberal Energy Minister Bill Bennett has claimed.

But don’t believe the hype — because the BC Business Council didn’t.

Rather than accept the BC Liberal perpetual propaganda line, the Council representing the province’s largest companies did the research, comparing B.C.’s economy in the 1980s when the Social Credit Party ruled; the 1990s under the BC NDP; and the 2000s with the BC Liberals in power.

And their study from 2012 found that far from a “dismal decade,” the economy under the BC NDP did significantly better than their right-wing opponents on several important measures.

When added to the BC Liberals’ recent massive increase in the province’s debt despite campaigning in the 2013 election for a “debt free BC,” it makes now ex-premier Christy Clark and her crew less than credible critics.

On the most important measure of any economy — real Gross Domestic Product growth — the Business Council report found that the BC NDP in the 1990s led the way with annual 2.72 per cent increases, significantly better than the BC Liberals at 2.36 per cent in the 2000s or Social Credit’s 2.12 per cent in the 1980s.

Yes, that’s right: the social democratic NDP under then premiers Mike Harcourt and Glen Clark presided over a faster growing economy than the BC Liberals under premier Gordon Campbell and deputy premier Christy Clark.

And the NDP decade in office also saw the largest average annual employment growth, with increases of 2.17 per cent, followed by the 1.91 per cent in the 1980s under the Socreds and last, the BC Liberals at 1.58 per cent in the 2000s.

Which government saw the most growth in export sales? The BC NDP again, with annual increases of 4.7 per cent in the 1990s versus the Socreds’ 3.8 per cent in the 1980s and the BC Liberals at just 1.2 per cent in the 2000s.

The BC NDP governments also bested the BC Liberals in annual growth of investments in machinery and equipment, with 4.59 per cent versus 3.52 per cent for Campbell and Social Credit fractionally in first place at 4.61 per cent.

Then there are more recent economic factors. Without question, Christy Clark had every right to boast that B.C. enjoyed the best provincial economy in Canada — though that didn’t get her re-elected.

Clark’s problem was that too many voters didn’t see those benefits and instead felt that a new government was needed to reduce emergency room and surgical waiting lists; remove expensive tolls on bridges; end out of control pay-for-play political donations; and increase social assistance rates after a decade of freezes, among other improvements promised by Horgan.

But Clark also dramatically increased British Columbia’s debt load — up an astonishing $10.85 billion in just the last four years — ironically after Clark ran on a “debt free BC” slogan in 2013.

And since becoming premier in 2011, Clark added 30 per cent more debt to the province’s books than the BC NDP did in its entire 10 years in office.

The overall debt picture during the BC Liberals’ 16-year reign is even more grim. They jacked total debt from $33.8 billion in 2001 to $66.7 billion in 2017, with their budget predicting it would rise to an enormous $77.7 billion by 2020.

o much for prudent fiscal management and debt control.

But did the BC Liberals best the NDP in some categories in the Business Council study? Yes, in non-residential business investment; unemployment rates; real per-capita income increases, real per-capita GDP growth and budget surpluses.

Still, the report’s most important point — other than dispelling the NDP “dismal decade” myth — is that no matter who is in power, B.C. is at the mercy of world economic forces.

“In global terms, B.C. is a very small market, representing less than one per cent of total North American gross domestic product,” the Business Council stated. “The province’s economic well-being is influenced as much or more by external factors (such as world prices for our natural resource exports or the value of the Canadian dollar) as by domestic public policies or other ‘internal’ developments.”

“No claim is made here that the policies of one provincial government directly led to better or worse economic results than the policies of another government,” the report continues. “Particularly for a small jurisdiction like B.C., such cause-and-effect assertions can be difficult to prove.”

Exactly — and worth remembering as Christy Clark and the BC Liberals resume their tired spiel that the BC NDP can’t run the proverbial peanut stand — when even B.C.’s biggest businesses know that Horgan’s party can and has economically outperformed its right-wing opponents. 

[Fanuck]

21 minutes ago, Glory_Days said:

Teacher's have been run roughshod over. They really don't make that great of money for the amount of schooling they had to go through. They also put in a lot more hours (most of them) then the regular 9-5 job. All the lesson plans they have to come up with, the marking of work, the helping of students before/after class. Supplying their own materials out of own pocket at times. Having to deal with extremely large class sizes.

Not to mention the fact that teachers took Crusty Clarks government to task over their contract stripping and unequivocally kicked their arses at the Supreme Court of Canada. Crusty was wrong for doing that to the teachers no matter which way you look at it - a generation of children in BC were ripped off because of it. 

[RWMc1]

They re-signed her? Those idiots!!!!

 

Did anyone get the terms of the contract?

[coastal.view]

the administration costs for both msp and toll bridges is silly

and both should be erased

cheaper to deal with these expenses through general taxation

or by expanding pst reach

so many administrative bodies collecting smallish amounts of money

so inefficient

[PhillipBlunt]

6 minutes ago, RWMc1 said:

They re-signed her? Those idiots!!!!

 

Did anyone get the terms of the contract?

I salute you, RWMc1.

 

[stanleysteamersmyl]

1 hour ago, AbrasiveAjax said:

Great open a bottle and celebrate. Can you expand on the damage her government has done? 

BC lead all provinces in 2016 in Growth, https://www.biv.com/article/2017/5/bc-had-canadas-strongest-economic-growth-2016-stat/

So now what? more fast ferries, increase welfare rates and minimum wage? Lets all go work for the government or be teachers.

BC Business Council:

 

On the most important measure of any economy — real Gross Domestic Product growth — the Business Council report found that the BC NDP in the 1990s led the way with annual 2.72 per cent increases, significantly better than the BC Liberals at 2.36 per cent in the 2000s or Social Credit’s 2.12 per cent in the 1980s.

Yes, that’s right: the social democratic NDP under then premiers Mike Harcourt and Glen Clark presided over a faster growing economy than the BC Liberals under premier Gordon Campbell and deputy premier Christy Clark.

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/07/25/BC-NDP-Dismal-Decade/

 

CC and the Liberals sold out B.C.