JM_ Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 7/31/2017 at 11:46 AM, Warhippy said: Except if Watts is their choice the NDP will happily be able to claim she's a conservative with racist tendencies. OK now thats quite the stretch. And it doesn't hold water. Lots of reasons to not like her policies but thats a bit low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Jimmy Pattison - but is he too left for the BC Llberal Party ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 9:14 PM, kingofsurrey said: I am hoping Mike DeJong runs for leader. He seems to have a very outgoing personality that should work well in the pro bc liberal mainstream media. you just don't want Watts to beat your NDP! which you know she probably can. No the Liberals need a new leader from the outside and some serious re-branding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: OK now thats quite the stretch. And it doesn't hold water. Lots of reasons to not like her policies but thats a bit low. That's actually not It's a political arena. She openly supported Leitch before the leadership race began for some of her antics in parliament. She also supported the barbaric practices hotline. She did that egregious mail out "we'll fight jihadists at home and abraod" and the muslim centric one as well You don't think they'll jump on that at all? You must be new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: That's actually not It's a political arena. She openly supported Leitch before the leadership race began for some of her antics in parliament. She also supported the barbaric practices hotline. She did that egregious mail out "we'll fight jihadists at home and abraod" and the muslim centric one as well You don't think they'll jump on that at all? You must be new I think calling her a racist is not correct. She's got too much good history in Surrey for that comment. No i don't think he mail-out thing will matter. Its not a kitchen table issue and easily dealt with. The NDP actually didn't win a majority, and won several ridings that I think Watts can easily take back. Weavers also been a big disappointment to a lot of Liberal voters that switched who couldn't stomach Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 7/31/2017 at 6:32 PM, iwtl said: A lot will depend on what dirt gets dug up over the next few months. If it sticks it will be the liberal brand that is unelectable and they will need to move.to yet another party. Bc conservative or bc socreds...or follow saskatchewan and create the BC Party. thats actually a good idea anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Jimmy Pattison - but is he too left for the BC Llberal Party ? So an 88 year old multi billionaire will run for the leadership of a political party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: So an 88 year old multi billionaire will run for the leadership of a political party? He's 89 on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, DonLever said: He's 89 on Sunday. So you get my point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 31 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: So you get my point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 BC Liberal leader convention looking for change .... 4 years too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 DeJong now jumping in....so much change lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 From Canadian Press: VICTORIA -- The contest to replace Christy Clark as leader of British Columbia's Liberal party is in its stretch run with the race coming down to a choice between the old guard and party newcomers. Three veteran cabinet ministers, Mike de Jong, Andrew Wilkinson and Todd Stone, are facing backbenchers Sam Sullivan and Michael Lee, as well as Dianne Watts, who was the mayor of Surrey before winning a seat for the Conservatives in the House of Commons. David Black, a political communications expert at Victoria's Royal Roads University, said Monday the race has split into two camps: those wanting change and those resisting it. There are also many Liberals who have yet to accept last year's election result that saw the party lose power to the NDP after 16 years in office, he said. "They are in a great hurry to be back in power," Black said. "The success of the Liberal party has made it difficult for them to undertake the introspection that the party would probably benefit by. What are we as a party? Where are we going?" The final debate for the six candidates is Tuesday in Vancouver. The Liberals elect their new leader on Feb. 3. Black said Watts and Lee are pushing the party to follow new directions to reflect changing political dynamics in B.C., while Wilkinson and de Jong are promoting their experience and promising to maintain a tight grip on the province's purse strings as the best route to success. Black said Stone is positioning himself as a middle ground option, while Sullivan, a former Vancouver mayor, is lobbing political grenades that include bringing back the harmonized sales tax that was defeated by voters in a 2011 referendum. "There is a conversation happening on that stage between the old party, the party of the north and the Interior, and a party that saw itself losing a lot of seats on the Lower Mainland, worried that it's indicative of a changing demographic," said Black. Watts, Lee and, to a lesser extent, Stone are representative of the move towards change, while de Jong and Wilkinson are firmly in the fiscal conservative camp, he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Great political party for the 1 % ers of BC. Fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 The TV Debate is on Global BC1 all news station tonight at 7:00 pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 16 hours ago, DonLever said: From Canadian Press: VICTORIA -- The contest to replace Christy Clark as leader of British Columbia's Liberal party is in its stretch run with the race coming down to a choice between the old guard and party newcomers. Three veteran cabinet ministers, Mike de Jong, Andrew Wilkinson and Todd Stone, are facing backbenchers Sam Sullivan and Michael Lee, as well as Dianne Watts, who was the mayor of Surrey before winning a seat for the Conservatives in the House of Commons. David Black, a political communications expert at Victoria's Royal Roads University, said Monday the race has split into two camps: those wanting change and those resisting it. There are also many Liberals who have yet to accept last year's election result that saw the party lose power to the NDP after 16 years in office, he said. "They are in a great hurry to be back in power," Black said. "The success of the Liberal party has made it difficult for them to undertake the introspection that the party would probably benefit by. What are we as a party? Where are we going?" The final debate for the six candidates is Tuesday in Vancouver. The Liberals elect their new leader on Feb. 3. Black said Watts and Lee are pushing the party to follow new directions to reflect changing political dynamics in B.C., while Wilkinson and de Jong are promoting their experience and promising to maintain a tight grip on the province's purse strings as the best route to success. Black said Stone is positioning himself as a middle ground option, while Sullivan, a former Vancouver mayor, is lobbing political grenades that include bringing back the harmonized sales tax that was defeated by voters in a 2011 referendum. "There is a conversation happening on that stage between the old party, the party of the north and the Interior, and a party that saw itself losing a lot of seats on the Lower Mainland, worried that it's indicative of a changing demographic," said Black. Watts, Lee and, to a lesser extent, Stone are representative of the move towards change, while de Jong and Wilkinson are firmly in the fiscal conservative camp, he said. It's kind of sad to know that the party will only give the island and interior/peace regions lip service knowing that they can't win the island and can't lose the interior/peace areas. Everything they say/do will be predicated on winning the lower mainland. For all the work I did up north I feel bad for knowing good people get screwed over endlessly but won't change their voting patterns left or right in any significant enough numbers to force a party to listen to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: It's kind of sad to know that the party will only give the island and interior/peace regions lip service knowing that they can't win the island and can't lose the interior/peace areas. Everything they say/do will be predicated on winning the lower mainland. For all the work I did up north I feel bad for knowing good people get screwed over endlessly but won't change their voting patterns left or right in any significant enough numbers to force a party to listen to them Swing ridings get all the attention and all the money. Thats why the great people of Van Isle get screwed. That is why the great people from northern BC get screwed. Thats why the great people of the Eastern Fraser Valley get screwed. Surrey is the key to the next election. Your right the lower mainland Vancouver and the commuting suburbs will determine the next election and get all the government projects / spending for their swing votes. Areas need to swing their votes every few elections...... That is the key to getting government infrastructure projects from a BC government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Swing ridings get all the attention and all the money. Thats why the great people of Van Isle get screwed. That is why the great people from northern BC get screwed. Thats why the great people of the Eastern Fraser Valley get screwed. Surrey is the key to the next election. Your right the lower mainland Vancouver and the commuting suburbs will determine the next election and get all the government projects / spending for their swing votes. Areas need to swing their votes every few elections...... That is the key to getting government infrastructure projects from a BC government. This isn't just B.C It's Canada also. The West constantly gets screwed compared to Ontario and Quebec. Both parties are guilty of this but especially the Liberals. If the NDP ever formed government I'm sure it would be the same as Quebec and Ontario together have like 200 seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 NVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 8/6/2017 at 8:03 AM, Ryan Strome said: I don't like the B.C liberals but you and a few others apparently forgot they won the election. Haha. So did Hillary and now none of them are in office. So there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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