Predicting Canucks leading scorers 2017-2018

[Ursel23]

1 minute ago, IBatch said:

Personally I think the Sedins are going to bounce back and come in top shape as usual.  It's possibly their last season, and a contract year, both will be big motivators.

 

First Line

1. H. Sedin 13 goals 50 assists 63 pts

2. D. Sedin 24 goals  35 assists 59 pts

3a .Goldobin 12 goals 13 assure 25 pts

3b. L.E.  26 goals 24 assists 50 pts.

 

Second Line

1. B. Horvat 25 goals 32  assists 57 pts.

2. S. Bearstchi 21 goals 18 assists 39 pts.

3. Boeser 29 goals 18 assists 47 pts.

 

Third Line

1.B. Sutter  18 goals 17 assists 35 pts.

2. Gagne 18 goals  23 assists 41 pts.

3a. L.E. ( see above)

3b. Burm 15 goals 18 assists 33 pts.

3c. Rodin 12 goals 15 assists 27 pts.

 

Fourth Line and other notables

 

1. Boucher 10 goals 9 assists 19 pts.

2. Virtanen 9 goals 13 assists 24 pts

3. Gaunce 4 goals 6 assists 10 pts.

4. Dahlen 3 goals  7 assists ( in late season call up, 8 games played)

 

Defense

 

1. Stetcher   11 goals 20 assists 31 pts.

2. Del Zotto 4 goals 26 assists 30 pts.

3. Hutton 5 goals 24 assists 29 pts.

4. Edler 9 goals 19  assists 28 pts.

5. Tanev 4 goals 18 assists 22 pts ( then scores 2 more in a late season trade to TO for Kapenan and their first rounder in 2018 and a conditional second in 2019 if they make it to the conference finals).

 

Book it.

 

 

 

 

 

You really see Boeser as a rookie potting 29 big ones? Being our top goal scorer. I'd love that. But I think it's a stretch. I also like trading for Kapanen and another 1st round pick. But Tanev? No thanks. 

[apollo]

Man... you know what'd be nice? 100+ points for both Sedins and a Cup to finish their careers. 

 

That'd be nice. I'd never ask the hockey gods for anything again if that was to happen.

[apollo]

4 minutes ago, Ursel23 said:

You really see Boeser as a rookie potting 29 big ones? Being our top goal scorer. I'd love that. But I think it's a stretch. I also like trading for Kapanen and another 1st round pick. But Tanev? No thanks. 

He did have 4 in 9 games last year... I think 20+ could be doable for sure if he plays 82 games.

 

9 games is an incredibly small sample size, but if he kept that pace, it would be 36 goals... lots of optimism here lol

[IBatch]

18 minutes ago, Ursel23 said:

Yeah last year was strange. When we signed Eriksson I was so excited to finally see him play with the twins. Every time they played together in worlds or Olympics they were awesome together. What happened? They were absolutely awful together in the blue and green. I can't see them turning it around so what winger is going to get the Sedins back to 60+ point getters? Answer is nobody. Not on our roster. 

The team is better off putting Eriksson with Bo on the top line or with Sutter and Gagner. Split up the offensive skill and have an all around team that puts up numbers without a stand out point producer. I could definitely see Horvat, the twins, Eriksson, Gagner around 50+ with other guys like Baertschi, Granlund & Boeser pushing 40+

That's exactly how I felt when going through this exercise.  My hope is with Green and a rejuvenated team after a long summer hopefully spent in the gym, L.E. will at some point re-unite with the Sedins and it will click.  

Also noted we have an awfully large group of guys that can play in the top nine with someone likely to end up on the trade block as a result.  Where does Granlund go if Boeser takes his place?  Or Bear? Where does Burm fit in, his production with ARI is in line with those guys too. Green has a lot to work with that is for sure.

[Kaner]

1 hour ago, Master Mind said:

1. Horvat - 70 points

2. Henrik - 60

3. Daniel - 60

4. Boeser - 50

5. Granlund - 45

6. Baertschi - 40

7. Gagner - 40

8. Stecher - 35

9. Hutton - 35

10. Eriksson - 35

That's a big total for Bo. 

 

Last season there were only 9 C's and 18 players that put up 70+pts. 

 

I just don't see it. I think a more realistic number would be ~60.

[Alflives]

1 hour ago, TimberWolf said:

Bo - 50-60 points around 30 goals

Henrik - 55-65 points around 12 goals

Dan - 45 to 55 Points 19 goals

BB - 20 to 30 points 18 goals

Sven - 20 to 30 points - 18 goals

Sutter - 28 points 10 goals

Gagner - 28 points 10 goals

Granlund - 27 points 15 goals

Awesome numbers for Bo:)

Too many cap Bo's ceiling at 60, but I'm with you.  Bo can get 70+ for sure.  Go Bo Go!

[IBatch]

9 minutes ago, Ursel23 said:

You really see Boeser as a rookie potting 29 big ones? Being our top goal scorer. I'd love that. But I think it's a stretch. I also like trading for Kapanen and another 1st round pick. But Tanev? No thanks. 

Not sure.  If he plays he has the tools to do it, broke Parise's record in the NCAA as a rookie and kept it up throughout.  Stars from that group already play against men and their game translates better than junior stars historically.  My only worry for him is if he can make it this entire season, a lot more games to play, and a lot harder on the body than NCAA.

 

I'm not the only one that sees the possibility.  THN has been talking about him as a calder candidate since last spring ( recent thread isn't the first time its come up).  Translation, experts feel he has the tools, it won't suprise anyone but the uninformed if he pots thirty and takes the Calder.   Don't mind been a homer about this, I think he will score thirty at some point, as long as they make room for him on the top six.

[Ursel23]

I can maybe see Horvat reaching 70+ in the future but I'm not it happens this year. Going from 52 to 70 in one season is a big jump. I don't think we have good enough line mates for him just yet.

[IBatch]

17 minutes ago, apollo said:

Man... you know what'd be nice? 100+ points for both Sedins and a Cup to finish their careers. 

 

That'd be nice. I'd never ask the hockey gods for anything again if that was to happen.

Amen.

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, IBatch said:

Not sure.  If he plays he has the tools to do it, broke Parise's record in the NCAA as a rookie and kept it up throughout.  Stars from that group already play against men and their game translates better than junior stars historically.  My only worry for him is if he can make it this entire season, a lot more games to play, and a lot harder on the body than NCAA.

 

I'm not the only one that sees the possibility.  THN has been talking about him as a calder candidate since last spring ( recent thread isn't the first time its come up).  Translation, experts feel he has the tools, it won't suprise anyone but the uninformed if he pots thirty and takes the Calder.   Don't mind been a homer about this, I think he will score thirty at some point, as long as they make room for him on the top six.

If Boeser plays a lot with the Twins, he will score 30+.

[-AJ-]

Horvat is the most obvious pick, but if Baertschi and Boeser can mesh with him, I think either of them have a shot too, though they'd be dark horses. The Sedins also both have a decent chance.

 

This is assuming Bo, Baertschi, and Boeser becomes our new 1st line (or 1B).

 

1. Horvat - 23 G, 34 A, 57 Points

2. H. Sedin - 13G, 39A, 52 Points

3. D. Sedin - 16G, 35A, 51 Points

4. S. Baertschi - 24G, 24A, 48 Points

5. L. Eriksson - 21G, 22A, 43 Points

6. B. Boeser - 20G, 16A, 36 Points

 

I'll just stop there I think because it gets real hard to predict past that. This is assuming our top six are the Twins and Eriksson and the the Triple B line. If Granlund replaces Eriksson with the twins, he could easily match what Eriksson has here, perhaps more.

[canuckmen84]

My top 10.

1. Horvat.            63pts.   25goals

2. The captain.   61pts.   14goals

3. Gagner.            55pts.   19goals

4. Daniel.             52pts.    22goals

5. Granlund.        44pts.    24goals

6. Eriksson.         42pts.   19goals

7. Baercheese.    39pts.   18goals

8. Boeser.             39pts.   23goals

9. Sutter.               32pts.   15goals

10. Stecher.          30pts.    9goals

 

Horvat continues to improve .

Sedins bounce back playing with Gagner and Granny.

Loui proves the haters wrong.

Boeser has a great year playing on Horvats line with PP time.

Stecher turns into our PP quarterback leading all Dmen in points.

Positive year ahead of us I hope.

[Nucker 67]

Horvat - 65

Henrik - 55

Daniel - 54

Gagner - 45

Boeser - 40

Baertschi - 35

Granlund - 34

Eriksson - 33

Sutter  32

Stecher - 30

[Ursel23]

5 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Horvat - 65

Henrik - 55

Daniel - 54

Gagner - 45

Boeser - 40

Baertschi - 35

Granlund - 34

Eriksson - 33

Sutter  32

Stecher - 30

I'd say you got some pretty low predictions for Baertschi and Granlund. I personally think that they will both have the best years they've had. 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

I'm not going to guess the point total for each, but I will rank our top-10 scoring leaders like this:

 

1. Horvat

2. Henrik

3. Daniel

4. Granlund

5. Baertschi

6. Boeser

7. Gagner

8. Eriksson

9. Stecher

10. Sutter

[keehan3]

2 hours ago, apollo said:

Bo put an end to an era of absolute dominance by the Swedes in the glorious city of Vancouver last year... if I'm not mistaking, since 1998-1999 season a Swedish born phenom led the worlds greatest sports entertainment franchise in scoring. Naslund, Hank, Danny back to back... before Naslund it was Bure with 90 points. 

 

That being said, it was with a miserable 52 points that Bo beat Hanks 51 with. 

 

Here's to hoping either Hank or Danny regain #1 with 65+ points each for a few years and then Elias leads with 100+ points 10 years in a row. 

 

Here's my guess for top 5... quite ambitious, yes. 

 

Lord Daniel - 72

King Henrik - 67 

Loui Eriksson - 65

Bo Horvat - 53

Anton Rodin - 51

 Bure is Russian

 

[MrCanuck94]

It's hard for me to say because I feel Willie's system and Pearn's PP really hindered a lot of our players.

 

I predict the twins and Loui will all be around the 50 point mark at least and BBB line (Bae Bo Brock) are gonna have really good years, especially Baertschi, with Brock in the running for the Calder.

 

Also predicting Hutton and Stecher around 35-40 points (increase of forwards production = increase for them) and Juolevi with around 30 points (predicting he'll make the team).

 

Goldobin, Dahlen and Rodin are wildcards for me, if they do well, we could be in for a decent season, no matter how much I want Dahlin...

[Master Mind]

1 hour ago, Kaner said:

That's a big total for Bo. 

 

Last season there were only 9 C's and 18 players that put up 70+pts. 

 

I just don't see it. I think a more realistic number would be ~60.

It would be a big jump for him, but I think he's capable of it.

 

I've watched him in London, and have been pretty high on him. If he doesn't crack 70 this year he should come close, and reach it the following year.

[nuck-lifer]

Trying not to be overly optimistic like every other year.:)

 

Sutter sustains another serious injury, bo has to pickup the other teams top lines but still shows improvement. Captain oh future captain!

Bo- 60- 

Henrik-52

Granny- 45

Daniel- 42

Gagner- 42

Lui- 42

Baer- 40

Boeser- 36

Stetch- 32

Rodin- 30

[Master Mind]

2 hours ago, apollo said:

Man oh man... if Loui hits 35... sure it's 11 more than last year, but you seriously have to contemplate a buy out at some point? 

 

I just went to the calculator and wow there's really no savings... I think it's because he got so much of it in signing bonuses... we're doomed. Loui better put up 50+ .... he is capable. 

 

SEASON	SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	ACTUAL COST	SAVINGS	BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19	$1,000,000	$6,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$5,500,000
2019-20	$1,000,000	$6,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$5,500,000
2020-21	$1,000,000	$6,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$5,500,000
2021-22	$3,000,000	$6,000,000	$500,000	$2,500,000	$3,500,000
2022-23	$0	$0	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2023-24	$0	$0	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2024-25	$0	$0	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2025-26	$0	$0	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000

 

Or maybe Aquaman could gift someone in Loui's family 15 million in Condo's and have him retire? It's 9 mill less than he'll actually make but he'll get it right away and it'll probably be worth 30 million by contracts end? 

 

Yea... it's what I hope happens... it is quite optimistic, but with a solid winger, it could be possible. Assuming Loui contributes to their line

I've liked Loui since his time in Dallas, and would love to see him play to his potential here. Not sure it'll happen this year, but that would be nice.