-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I really think he should of just retired as back to back champions, that's the best way to exit the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: I really think he should of just retired as back to back champions, that's the best way to exit the game. Although I agree, money talks. He also played there for 3 years and they are still considered a "contender" at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: I really think he should of just retired as back to back champions, that's the best way to exit the game. I see no reason to retire from something you love doing. I don't think it's necessarily the money. Why stop playing the game you love? He's also from Minni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, apollo said: I see no reason to retire from something you love doing. I don't think it's necessarily the money. Why stop playing the game you love? Agreed. But there also this side of the coin that at some point you have to retire and why not retire as back to back champs rather than retiring when you are put on waivers and finish your career in the minors (that happens to a lot of veterans late in their career). That is just my view, but if he thinks he is capable of keep playing, then he should keep doing what he loves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: Agreed. But there also this side of the coin that at some point you have to retire and why not retire as back to back champs rather than retiring when you are put on waivers and finish your career in the minors (that happens to a lot of veterans late in their career). That is just my view, but if he thinks he is capable of keep playing, then he should keep doing what he loves. Why would you want to retire just to have something that looks nice on paper? Instead of continuing to play the sport you love. If you retired like that then you don't really love the game you love stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, peaches5 said: Why would you want to retire just to have something that looks nice on paper? Instead of continuing to play the sport you love. If you retired like that then you don't really love the game you love stats. It's just an opinion. Take Nick Lidstrom as an example, he could of kept playing for another but he chose to retire while he was still a decent defenseman. Can't doubt the love Lidstrom has in the game, but sometimes knowing when to retire and when to call it a career is important. Different players and different people have different views, retiring doesn't mean stop playing hockey, you can still play in senior hockey (e.g. Ryan Smyth) and get into coaching or management roles and still work in the game you love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It's actually really impressive that Cullen has managed to stick around for this long. He'll turn 41 in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, ruilin96 said: Agreed. But there also this side of the coin that at some point you have to retire and why not retire as back to back champs rather than retiring when you are put on waivers and finish your career in the minors (that happens to a lot of veterans late in their career). That is just my view, but if he thinks he is capable of keep playing, then he should keep doing what he loves. For me it all depends on the pedigree of the player. Cullen is not a Hall of Famer, so nobody will remember how he finished his career and where, if he still has that fire burning, why not. If that was Crosby instead, then I would completely agree with you. Most notable athletes ending on a high (Manning, Bourque, Phelps, Bolt) or low (Favre, Iginla (not over yet), Jordan) are usually Hall of Famer calibre. Also, usually superstars have many business opportunity when they retire, sponsors, commercials, branding, ambassadors, commentators, etc., making it easier. Players like Cullen don't have that choice and usually don't know what they'll do without hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, timberz21 said: For me it all depends on the pedigree of the player. Cullen is not a Hall of Famer, so nobody will remember how he finished his career and where, if he still has that fire burning, why not. If that was Crosby instead, then I would completely agree with you. Most notable athletes ending on a high (Manning, Bourque, Phelps, Bolt) or low (Favre, Iginla (not over yet), Jordan) are usually Hall of Famer calibre. Also, usually superstars have many business opportunity when they retire, sponsors, commercials, branding, ambassadors, commentators, etc., making it easier. Players like Cullen don't have that choice and usually don't know what they'll do without hockey. I don't see why it should matter whether we're talking Crosby or Cullen. Shouldn't it be up to the player and not us regardless of what kind of career they have had? Rather selfish to think otherwise in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I think guys that retire on top lose love for the game. Using Lidstrom as an example, he just wasn't %100 committed anymore. Cullen loves the game and is still %100 committed to it... Playing in his home town is a no brainer. He's got lots left in the tank. Guys like Brandon Pirri can't get spots in the nhl because there's better players like Cullen out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: It's just an opinion. Take Nick Lidstrom as an example, he could of kept playing for another but he chose to retire while he was still a decent defenseman. Can't doubt the love Lidstrom has in the game, but sometimes knowing when to retire and when to call it a career is important. Different players and different people have different views, retiring doesn't mean stop playing hockey, you can still play in senior hockey (e.g. Ryan Smyth) and get into coaching or management roles and still work in the game you love. As a counter-example, how about Mike Keane? Three time Stanley Cup Champion. Outstanding NHL career. He could have called it a career but played 5 more years for the Moose. Sure it wasn't the NHL, but it was still pro hockey and I think it was a great way to finish off his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, goalie13 said: As a counter-example, how about Mike Keane? Three time Stanley Cup Champion. Outstanding NHL career. He could have called it a career but played 5 more years for the Moose. Sure it wasn't the NHL, but it was still pro hockey and I think it was a great way to finish off his career. Again different opinions. I respect yours and hope you respect mine as well. Let's end this argument here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, goalie13 said: As a counter-example, how about Mike Keane? Three time Stanley Cup Champion. Outstanding NHL career. He could have called it a career but played 5 more years for the Moose. Sure it wasn't the NHL, but it was still pro hockey and I think it was a great way to finish off his career. In that 5 years with the Moose look what he did for the Canucks. I was surprised that he never became a HC. So many of the Canucks that played with him spoke highly for how he helped their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Old as he may be, he's still a 30 point-getter. Solid deal; I'm surprised he didn't re-sign with the Pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, kloubek said: Old as he may be, he's still a 30 point-getter. Solid deal; I'm surprised he didn't re-sign with the Pens. His family lives in Minnesota. He left Nashville two years ago (Poile wanted to keep him) because they wanted to return home and have his kids grow up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Good signing for them after losing Haula and Hanzal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 39 minutes ago, mll said: His family lives in Minnesota. He left Nashville two years ago (Poile wanted to keep him) because they wanted to return home and have his kids grow up there. Fair enough. Considering the cups, it tells me he's more a family man than needing (more) glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 hours ago, ruilin96 said: It's just an opinion. Take Nick Lidstrom as an example, he could of kept playing for another but he chose to retire while he was still a decent defenseman. Can't doubt the love Lidstrom has in the game, but sometimes knowing when to retire and when to call it a career is important. Different players and different people have different views, retiring doesn't mean stop playing hockey, you can still play in senior hockey (e.g. Ryan Smyth) and get into coaching or management roles and still work in the game you love. Lidstrom's decision had a lot to do with his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: In that 5 years with the Moose look what he did for the Canucks. I was surprised that he never became a HC. So many of the Canucks that played with him spoke highly for how he helped their careers. Keane rode off into the sunset playing the final years of his hockey career in Winnipeg, his hometown. Good on Matt Cullen for signing a deal with the Wild. For me, he's still one of the best fourth line centers in the NHL right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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