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[ESPN Insider: Pronman] Ranks Canucks prospect pipeline 9th in league

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On 8/18/2017 at 9:54 AM, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Warning Long read, team break down....

 

Out side of Patrick, Frost and Ratcliff from this years draft, they have some really good talent,  I do agree that they might not be top place but assuming patrick lives up to expectations he's a elite talent. 

They also have:

 

Lindblom, he was 2nd in goals in the SEL and 4th in points and he was doing it a 19 years old (young b-day).  We'd be ecstatic if Pettersson put up those kind of numbers +2 years after draft.

 

Sanhiem put up 37 points in 76 games in his first full year in the AHL,  He's got size and also knows how to play both ends of the ice. 

 

Rubtsov, came over to the Q and showed why he was a first round pick last year putting up 1.38 ppg. 

 

 

 

See I don't agree with them being in the top 3.  They have Strome who dominated the OHL and Keller who put up boeser numbers as a freshman in NCAA .

Wood and Fischer both had really good years in the AHL putting up over 40 points in their first full year in the AHL, but Chyhcrun doesn't count since he's played over 30 games and  Merkley has taken a step back from his draft year

 

They rightfully are ahead of Vancouver but I think some other teams have some more exciting players (likely just my personal bias)

 

Trenin, Kamenev and Tolvanen are high power offensive players,  Kamenev has ardvisson potential, Girard he's a pure offensive machine from the point and you should be familiar with Fabbro who's a extremely nice piece to round things out. 

 

And don't for get there future #1 goalie Soros, who still technically is part of this list since he's played under 30 NHL games. 

 

NYI makes total sense because of how many good players they have who've been cooking in the AHL and still meet the criteria to make this list,  players like Ho-sang, who's already got a decent start in the NHL, Dal Colle who's quietly been progressing every year 41 points in his first season in the AHL, and Pulock who's almost a ppg in the AHL.  These are some exciting players.  Add in Bellows, Barzal, Salo and Sorokin (who's an absolute stud).  I can easily see them in the top 5.

 

 

I don't think i'd have NJ in the top 5,  likely still top 10 though. Hischier "might" be the best prospect any team has.  He should becoming an impact player in the NHL like Nylander and Ehlers did.  In my opinon he's a pure lock for a top line player.  The have queniville who put up .8ppg in his first AHL season, Joey Andersson and one of my favorites Walsh who is a pure offensive D that dominated highschool hockey last year (69 points in 30 games).  The still have Blackwood in net that could someday take over if NJ moves on from Cory.  and last years first round pick McLoed who improved to 1.2 ppg.

 

Wild are my front runner for the best prospect pool.  A big question does rely on if the russian Kaprizov (who has Kucherov type ceiling) ever signs (he just signed another 3 years in the KHL), but they have loads and loads of exciting prospect.  The after him Erissson Ek was able to come over from the SEL and immediately make an impact in the NHL, he's a top choice for the calder trophy next year,  Kunin dominated the NCAA and was able to make a really quick transition into the AHL putting up almost a ppg in his first AHL stint.  We saw what kind of dominate force Greenway is capable being of in the WJC.  he also had a really good year in the NCAA with BU.  They have Tuch who put up .65 ppg in his first AHL 57 games.  and then finally they have another high end skilled russian, Sokolov who put up 48 goals in 64 games OHL last year  And this year they were able to snag Lodina and Shaw later in the draft.  Both were supposed to go in the early second round.

 

They are the team the really give wild a run.  Sergachev is my favorite D prospect,  Raddysh was top 2 players in the OHL last year, Ingram was one of the best goalies in the WHL last year, Cirelli put up 1.25 ppg in the OHL and Stephens put up 1.04 ppg, Howden lite up the WHL last year and then put up 6 points in his first 7 AHL games.  Add in Cal Foote and Lipanov from this year draft and they have as solid of a prospect pool as they come.

 

Dunn is a very exciting D prospect, he put up 45 points in his first 72 AHL games last year,  Kyrou put up 1.42ppg in the OHL lat year good enough for 6th as a 19 year old.   Stevens is there equivalent to our Gaudette, Kostin is the wild card,  he could be a elite NHL talent or he could be a Nuchiskin, Thomas looks like a Horvat 2.0 and Thompson is a 6'5" monster center coming off a ppg season in the NCAA, Walman is an offesnve producing D many who was able to put up a ppg in the NCAA.  Schmaltz is an all around D that has put up .5 ppg in the AHL the last two season..

 

I think 9th is also fair.  Mostly because most of our prospects that meet this criteria haven't proven much at a pro level yet.  While other teams have players proven themselves at the AHL and pro Europe levels we don't have that...yet.  I think by this time next year (as long as most of our rookies don't play over 30 NHL games) we will move up that list, if all goes will likely up to the top 3.   

 

As much as I like sergachev, McAvoy is the best D prospect.  He proved that with his play all last year in the clutch situations. Frederic over a ppg in NCAA,

Zboril has been a disappointing pick,

DeBrusk 49 points in his first 74 AHL games,

Donato over a ppg in NCAA,

Heinen 44 points in 64 AHL games this year,

Chelarik put up 38 points in his first 49 games in the AHL this year. 

Grzelchyk was .5 ppg D in his first AHL 70 games this year.

Forsbacka-Karlsson had such a good NCAA season Bruins signed him and used up a year in his ELC status to lock him up.

There pool is far from being thin, they have a ton of upcoming talent, talents that's already proving them selves at the pro levels

 

I think jets are very similar to the bruins but McAvoy is what would set them apart,  Since the criteria means they can't have played over 20 games.  The most exciting prospect like Laine and Ehlers can't be in there.  They still have some exciting players like Conner, Foley, Roslovic and Harkins, just not as much as a team like the Bruins have.

 

Overall a team like Av's don't have enough outside of Jost and makar. Stars could make an arguement weith Honka, Gurianov, Elie, Dickinson, Tufte and now Hieskanen and Oettinger,  Sabres could also argue with Mittelstadt, Nylander, Asplund, and Pu, Even the leafs could make a case with Dermott, Bracco, Nielsen, Kapanen and now Liljegren,  I think it gets really tight between 10 and 14 where you could interchange any of the teams and everyone would have cases for and against it.

Solid write up man, nicely done.

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5 hours ago, JaboVancouver said:

As I remember Demko had a rough first half in the AHL and began to figure it out in the second half. This is isn't surprising considering it's a young man getting used to being a professional, a tougher, longer schedule in the AHL and integrating changes to his game that were inevitable once Canucks goalie coaches got to work with him full time. I expect him to make a huge jump in his second year as a pro now that there won't be any surprises for him and the team in Utica should be a little better then last year. Having DiPietro ahead of Demko on that list was one thing that had me scratching my head. Then again it's just someone's opinion so you take it with a grain of salt.

I agree. Cory Schneider had an even worse start in the AHL, and started coming around at about the same point in his rookie pro season.

 

I just thought that was the only logical explanation behind his rating. 

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13 hours ago, JaboVancouver said:

As I remember Demko had a rough first half in the AHL and began to figure it out in the second half. This is isn't surprising considering it's a young man getting used to being a professional, a tougher, longer schedule in the AHL and integrating changes to his game that were inevitable once Canucks goalie coaches got to work with him full time. I expect him to make a huge jump in his second year as a pro now that there won't be any surprises for him and the team in Utica should be a little better then last year. Having DiPietro ahead of Demko on that list was one thing that had me scratching my head. Then again it's just someone's opinion so you take it with a grain of salt.

It's so subjective.  

 

“Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

 

 

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