Ryan Strome Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Soooo...never been to Quebec or? I haven't. I have heard both sides. Some people tell me they are very rude others tell me they are the friendliest most helpful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: It's not about blaming its what's acceptable where they're coming from so it happens here. Is that fair to Canadians? It's happening daily to women in Europe. How come those in support say we must help them their country is ravaged by war but yet are fine with next to no help for Africa? It's happening daily to women in Canada too. By Canadians. Of all colours and religions. This is not a racial thing. it is a human thing and it is disgusting my man no matter who what when where or how it all occurs http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/07/accuser-in-toronto-police-gang-sex-assault-case-testifies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: With all due respect, his actual numbers for refugee claimants are exactly on par with what Harper was promising. Saying he is putting people at risk is pretty specious I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. On top of that if Harper was doing what this government was doing I would still complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: It's not about blaming its what's acceptable where they're coming from so it happens here. Is that fair to Canadians? It's happening daily to women in Europe. How come those in support say we must help them their country is ravaged by war but yet are fine with next to no help for Africa? We do commit 5 billion in international assistance... but yes I agree it could be more. The Euro experience is differnet from ours, there was a flood of people with no screening, and its also a very small number of people involved - again, if you can show me a reference that refugee crime is occurring at a rate above the standard percentage that occurs in Europe I'd like to see it. Of course they have to follow our laws! Our border guards just caught them, and they will be held accountable... not sure what your point is here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Warhippy said: It's happening daily to women in Canada too. By Canadians. Of all colours and religions. This is not a racial thing. it is a human thing and it is disgusting my man no matter who what when where or how it all occurs http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/07/accuser-in-toronto-police-gang-sex-assault-case-testifies So clearly we don't need to add to it right? And maybe it's time to actually make people pay for Their crimes in Canada. But instead we allow them to promise to take their medicine and enjoy a long life of freedom ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: There was also the incident at West Edmonton mall. Again it's a few we know of and how many do we not know about? This isn't limited to immigrant groups, Strome. There are Canadian-born people of every description who pose a sexual danger to children and vulnerable women, and many of them are caught. But how many aren't? Same difference, so it isn't exclusively an immigrant issue and trying to make it one is nothing more than to scapegoat an ethnic or religious group because of the horrible misdeeds of a few of its members. 31 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: This PM is putting Canadians at risk with just opening our doors to everyone and anyone. Oh, come on. You can't really believe this, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Curmudgeon said: This isn't limited to immigrant groups, Strome. There are Canadian-born people of every description who pose a sexual danger to children and vulnerable women, and many of them are caught. But how many aren't? Same difference, so it isn't exclusively an immigrant issue and trying to make it one is nothing more than to scapegoat an ethnic or religious group because of the horrible misdeeds of a few of its members. Oh, come on. You can't really believe this, can you? Well look at all the border jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just now, Ryan Strome said: So clearly we don't need to add to it right? And maybe it's time to actually make people pay for Their crimes in Canada. But instead we allow them to promise to take their medicine and enjoy a long life of freedom ahead of them. If you're argument is "we shouldn't allow refugees as long as there is crime in Canada", that's an impossible standard and you know it. That being said, I'm glad the CBSA agents caught these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Well look at all the border jumpers. Its clear your scared of the influx, but you cannot logically condemn 3500 people for the actions of 2. What ethnic group are you part of? I'm sure we can find a criminal group for your personal case to make the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Well look at all the border jumpers. You mean border crossers? Refugees? People driven from their homes by rhetoric, persecution and violence? Those people? Or do you just see criminals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: Its clear your scared of the influx, but you cannot logically condemn 3500 people for the actions of 2. What ethnic group are you part of? I'm sure we can find a criminal group for your personal case to make the point. First nations. All of us are criminals right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: You mean border crossers? Refugees? People driven from their homes by rhetoric, persecution and violence? Those people? Or do you just see criminals? The United States? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 44 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: There was also the incident at West Edmonton mall. Again it's a few we know of and how many do we not know about? This PM is putting Canadians at risk with just opening our doors to everyone and anyone. And psychologists put people at risk by releasing Vince Li from custody. Canada has as weak a justice system as imaginable in the free world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: And psychologists put people at risk by releasing Vince Li from custody. Canada has as weak a justice system as imaginable in the free world. I just posted about this I guess you missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: First nations. All of us are criminals right? absolutely not. Thats my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: If you're argument is "we shouldn't allow refugees as long as there is crime in Canada", that's an impossible standard and you know it. That being said, I'm glad the CBSA agents caught these guys. Well it seems to be Muslim refugees and immigrants that seem to think it's alright to abuse and assault women. That religion also seems very accepting of those crimes. Look at filipinos, over the last decade so many have come to Alberta and they do jobs none of us Canadians will do, they seem very happy and proud to be here and personally I don't hear crimes constantly coming from the Filipino community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Well it seems to be Muslim refugees and immigrants that seem to think it's alright to abuse and assault women. That religion also seems very accepting of those crimes. Look at filipinos, over the last decade so many have come to Alberta and they do jobs none of us Canadians will do, they seem very happy and proud to be here and personally I don't hear crimes constantly coming from the Filipino community. I think the issue is you hate Muslims so when you hear about one committing a crime, it reinforces your feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Well it seems to be Muslim refugees and immigrants that seem to think it's alright to abuse and assault women. That religion also seems very accepting of those crimes. Look at filipinos, over the last decade so many have come to Alberta and they do jobs none of us Canadians will do, they seem very happy and proud to be here and personally I don't hear crimes constantly coming from the Filipino community. the Philippines has over 10 million Muslims... Honestly I think you have been drawn into some very unhealthy ideas about Muslims, and its really sad. I think if you really go out and look at objective studies on immigration and crime, and also on how Muslim groups in Canada are trying to combat radicalization you'd have a different opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 @Ryan Strome Actually, to be fair, I can't say for certain that you hate Muslims but from everything you post on here, it sure seems like you're extremely prejudiced when it comes to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Well it seems to be Muslim refugees and immigrants that seem to think it's alright to abuse and assault women. That religion also seems very accepting of those crimes. Look at filipinos, over the last decade so many have come to Alberta and they do jobs none of us Canadians will do, they seem very happy and proud to be here and personally I don't hear crimes constantly coming from the Filipino community. What do Muslim refugees and immigrants have to with pedophiles from Haiti? You do know that Haiti has a largely Christian population? Should we now say that Christians are accepting of pedophiles due to anecdotal evidence like this one? Also I doubt you have spoken to a single Muslim refugee/immigrant, so your "they seem to think its alright" is basically just your Islamophobic perception. Considering your ambiguous language you have little to no idea what their religion actually says so maybe you should do a little research first instead of making such comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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