Multiple refugee claimants have been found in possession of child pornography at or near the Quebec border crossing

[CBH1926]

19 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

cognitive disonance.

 

I do suggest you look it up.

 

Then re-read the bible.  Especially the fun parts about slaughtering tens of thousands of non believers, stoning virgins at the gates and sleeping with their own children.  Riveting stuff

 

 

So let's look at this from another angle.

When was the last time group of Catholics in France carried out attacks like the ones in Paris and Nice?

When was the last time group of Christians flew planes into building?

 

How about Mormons or Baptists bombing trains, buses or carrying out suicide attacks?

Give me some recent examples that don't include you going into crusades and inquisition and $&!# that happened hundreds of years ago.

 

 

[SabreFan1]

56 minutes ago, Western Red said:

What a thing to say. Refugees in general deserve a chance.

 

Having said that, our justice system is faaar too lenient.

They're all yours now.  Enjoy.

[Warhippy]

3 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

So let's look at this from another angle.

When was the last time group of Catholics in France carried out attacks like the ones in Paris and Nice?

When was the last time group of Christians flew planes into building?

 

How about Mormons or Baptists bombing trains, buses or carrying out suicide attacks?

Give me some recent examples that don't include you going into crusades and inquisition and $&!# that happened hundreds of years ago.

 

 

Beheadings and murders in the congo

Killing of Albinos in Africa

Multilations of and killings/jailing of LGBTQ in Africa

Molestations, murders of children in care in Europe

the genocide and murders of the first nations of canada and the US

The genocide and murders of children in latin and south america

Germany 1938-1945 (ya...check that one out)

llaga in Phillippines

IRA in Ireland

 

All caused by people of the Christian or Catholic faiths.

 

So hey.  How about that.  Whether you want to only use "bombs or guns" as your form of criteria is fine.  But really, before you start stomping around best be assured I know first hand what I am speaking of here and do not for a second pretend these incidents didn't happen or are somehow "OMG not as bad as if they're as bad" as anything done in the name of Islam.

 

because while you're trying to act holier than thou, the people dead by these acts are still dead.

 

[Warhippy]

2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

They're all yours now.  Enjoy.

Thanks so much

 

Love your country by country gentrification in Latin America, glad we could help

[Ryan Strome]

4 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

They're all yours now.  Enjoy.

I knew Bieber would come back to bite us.

[Russ]

45 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

cognitive disonance.

 

I do suggest you look it up.

 

Then re-read the bible.  Especially the fun parts about slaughtering tens of thousands of non believers, stoning virgins at the gates and sleeping with their own children.  Riveting stuff

 

 

Really the bible says that?  Brutal... so much for all the preaching my mom wanted me to learn in church, glad I got out of it...

[Warhippy]

3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

I knew Bieber would come back to bite us.

well in our defense we gave them nickleback too

[Warhippy]

7 minutes ago, Russ said:

Really the bible says that?  Brutal... so much for all the preaching my mom wanted me to learn in church, glad I got out of it...

It was so bad that to entice new believers they wrote a new set of books slightly less angry.

 

The bible was/is not entirely a nice book but it's all in how people interperet it.

 

The Quran is not entirely a nice book either.  But I can cherry pick passages of both that make either religion look vile.

 

Bottom line is people continue to say "islam is evil" and fabricate cherry picked stats about it.  Yet they refuse to look at themselves.

 

quite honestly the only signficant difference is that Islam hasn't updated their book and tried to force people to live under the updated passages where as Christianity/Catholicism has over the last hundred+ years.

 

Needless to say I think all organized religion is vile and this is a prime example.  

 

It's so bad we're in a thread where 2 or 3 Haitians, a country predominantly Christian, have been caught as rfugee claimants at our border with child pron and we're arguing  over Islam being bad because some people cannot let it go.

 

Literally ZERO connection to Muslims or Islam and yet here we are....

[PhillipBlunt]

1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

I don't disagree with you I just posted it in a way some people might not catch.

I know. 

[CBH1926]

10 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Beheadings and murders in the congo

Killing of Albinos in Africa

Multilations of and killings/jailing of LGBTQ in Africa

Molestations, murders of children in care in Europe

the genocide and murders of the first nations of canada and the US

The genocide and murders of children in latin and south america

Germany 1938-1945 (ya...check that one out)

llaga in Phillippines

IRA in Ireland

 

All caused by people of the Christian or Catholic faiths.

 

So hey.  How about that.  Whether you want to only use "bombs or guns" as your form of criteria is fine.  But really, before you start stomping around best be assured I know first hand what I am speaking of here and do not for a second pretend these incidents didn't happen or are somehow "OMG not as bad as if they're as bad" as anything done in the name of Islam.

 

because while you're trying to act holier than thou, the people dead by these acts are still dead.

 

You have to figure out the difference between people that were born into certain faith, and people that commit murder in the name of the religion.

That is not a same thing, no matter how much you try to make it all the same.

 

I asked you to provide me recent examples in Europe of Christians killing people in the name of the religion.

You got back with Congo, Albinos, colonialism, deviants and Philippines.

 

Let me help you out, War in Bosnia had Christians killing Muslims in part due to their religion.

Pro life groups killing people is an example of religious based terror.

Germany had nothing to do with religion, trust me you don't want to debate me on that, just like I won't debate you on FN issues.

 

 

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, CBH1926 said:

You have to figure out the difference between people that were born into certain faith, and people that commit murder in the name of the religion.

That is not a same thing, no matter how much you try to make it all the same.

 

I asked you to provide me recent examples in Europe of Christians killing people in the name of the religion.

You got back with Congo, Albinos, colonialism, deviants and Philippines.

 

Let me help you out, War in Bosnia had Christians killing Muslims in part due to their religion.

Pro life groups killing people is an example of religious based terror.

Germany had nothing to do with religion, trust me you don't want to debate me on that, just like I won't debate you on FN issues.

 

 

Actually Germany was all about race and religion as well as a long standing grudge over the armistice.

 

You asked for examples I gave them to you.  Changing the parameters after doesn't chanfe the fact these people killed for or in the name of or to spread their religion.

[Tortorella's Rant]

lol Quit arguing about which religion is more violent and more intolerant. It's clearly Islam. It's the mother load of bad ideas and just the fact people try to defend it by asserting it's less violent than Christianity does not help your cause and never will. Religion in general, and especially Islam and Christianity are hideous scars on humanity.. 

[Ryan Strome]

5 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Actually Germany was all about race and religion as well as a long standing grudge over the armistice.

 

You asked for examples I gave them to you.  Changing the parameters after doesn't chanfe the fact these people killed for or in the name of or to spread their religion.

The race part yes the religion part no.

[CBH1926]

16 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Actually Germany was all about race and religion as well as a long standing grudge over the armistice.

 

You asked for examples I gave them to you.  Changing the parameters after doesn't chanfe the fact these people killed for or in the name of or to spread their religion.

Germans did not carry out their crimes against Jews based on Catholicism and Protestantism.

Nazis viewed religion as a competition to their ideology.

 

High ranking nazis like Goebbels, Bormann, Himmler were very anti church.

Seventh day Adventist, Salvation Army, Christian Saints, Jehovah witnesses etc. were all banned.

 

According to Albert Speer, Austrian painter's vision of germanized Europe had no room for organized religion, only nazism.  

[Warhippy]

48 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Germans did not carry out their crimes against Jews based on Catholicism and Protestantism.

Nazis viewed religion as a competition to their ideology.

 

High ranking nazis like Goebbels, Bormann, Himmler were very anti church.

Seventh day Adventist, Salvation Army, Christian Saints, Jehovah witnesses etc. were all banned.

 

According to Albert Speer, Austrian painter's vision of germanized Europe had no room for organized religion, only nazism.  

Just so we're clear.  On the eastern front, many pogroms were at the behest of holy leaders who swore that the villagers were doing gods work.  Tens of and possibly thousands of "godless" people were killed.  Some areas had rules in which untended land was turned over to the church or spiritual leaders of the area.

 

You're completely missing the point though.  My initial statement was very clear.  The Quran much like the bible is not an inherently evil book.  But cherry pick specific parts of it and it becomes vile.

 

People pretending 1 religion is somehow better than the other are simply put jackasses.  Like completely and simply jackasses.  Pretending your imaginary friend is better than someone elses because of some specific set of medieval grievances set about in the holy land 600 to 900 years ago is almost laughably stupid.  I killed you in the name of my god.  I killed you in the name of mine.  Nuh uh, ya i did.  Noooooo my god is better

 

It's so childish that it is insulting to anyone with any modicum of intelligence.  Believe in what you want but don't pretend that it is somehow better than what someone else believes in or practices because I can pick apart all 4 major religions with relative ease.

 

But since SOMEONE decided to railroad this story in to their usual omg muslims iz da badz let's get back on track

 

A few Haitians who have been seeking citizenship in the US out of the nearly 4000 who have fled the US to canada due to the 3rd party border laws between countries were caught with child pornography

 

People need to understand how great it is the border services can still capably commit their obligations under such circumstances.  This 3rd party law needs to end.  We're not a dumping ground for refugees period.  We share a similar language in french/french english english but we are not a safe haven for anyone.

 

Seeing only 2 people ahve been caught is both cause for relief but also concern because who is to say more haven't come in.  Who is to say we're paying more attention to possible issues with migrants than we are with these same evils and issues at home.  It is time to start setting things right in this country.  The previous government dropped the ball and the new government is still far to kid gloves in this aspect

[HerrDrFunk]

This is anecdotal evidence, so take it with as much credibility as you want, but according to a friend of mine who works for CBP, people getting caught with child porn at the border is depressingly common :/

[Warhippy]

2 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:

This is anecdotal evidence, so take it with as much credibility as you want, but according to a friend of mine who works for CBP, people getting caught with child porn at the border is depressingly common :/

My wife watches or watched "Border Patrol" and you're right.  it is depressingly common.  Found on phones, hard drives laptops etc from everything from pilots to ships crews at the ports and more.

[SabreFan1]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

well in our defense we gave them nickleback too

I'm one of the few left in the US who still admits to liking Nickelback's music....  Those poor guys became the butt of bad band jokes years ago.

[canuck204]

16 hours ago, SabreFan1 said:

Saying the US is Hell seems a tad extreme.  What does it have to do with the several immigrants getting caught with kiddy porn?

People are willing and happy to lose their hands and fingers to get the hell out of your country. Don't wanna sound like a SJW but I imagine you aren't an overly oppressed part of the population living in poverty are you, lol. The USA is hell for a lot of people. #perspective

[EastVanCanuck]

16 hours ago, Fateless said:

I'm not really sure I see the fuss.

 

Many Canadians are found possessing child pornography every day. They face the consequences prescribed by law.

 

A couple refugees have been found possessing child pornography. They will face the consequences prescribed by law.

 

The real issue here is that the public is setting themselves up for failure by expecting every single refugee let into Canada to be perfect angels. There are going to be refugees let into Canada that break the law. There are always bad eggs and while the screening process will remove most of the bad eggs, some previously good eggs will likely turn rotten after being in Canada for a while. No screening process will be able to detect that, and quite frankly that's why our country has domestic laws to deal with people that break the law. 

 

Its no different than a Canadian doing a bad thing. I know plenty of Canadians that I'd be much more scared to be locked up in a room with than these refugees, but no one is calling for those Canadians to be deported. 

Totally disagree.   Are you condoning pedophiles in coming to thus country?  Insane.  

 

If you commit serious crimes such as possessing child porn and you are not a Candian citizen (regardless if you are a refugee or on an international visa) you should be immediately be placed in jail and then deported from our country.