Pears Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 As we move into the last few days of summer, there are still a few notable RFAs still unsigned, including our own Bo Horvat. The other two are Detroit's Andreas Athanasiou, who is rumoured to be looking at KHL offers, and Boston's David Pastrnak. So i was hoping to start a discussion on what it would take to acquire Pastrnak via trade. We won't have the cap space to sign him without moving a roster player or two, so one would have to be inlcuded in a possible deal. What does everyone think, realistically, it would take to get him away from Boston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 A lot more than we have to offer. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Pears said: As we move into the last few days of summer, there are still a few notable RFAs still unsigned, including our own Bo Horvat. The other two are Detroit's Andreas Athanasiou, who is rumoured to be looking at KHL offers, and Boston's David Pastrnak. So i was hoping to start a discussion on what it would take to acquire Pastrnak via trade. We won't have the cap space to sign him without moving a roster player or two, so one would have to be inlcuded in a possible deal. What does everyone think, realistically, it would take to get him away from Boston? Could any trade for Pastrnak start with Loui Errikson? Trading any of our top prospects is not a smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Could any trade for Pastrnak start with Loui Errikson? Trading any of our top prospects is not a smart move. That would be a non-starter from the Bruins pov. If you want Pastrnak you will have to lay all your chips on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: Could any trade for Pastrnak start with Loui Errikson? Trading any of our top prospects is not a smart move. Would you trade Horvat in a deal where David Backes was the centre piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Toews said: That would be a non-starter from the Bruins pov. If you want Pastrnak you will have to lay all your chips on the table. I know. Just wishful thinking. Really don't want to give up a top prospect (or two) plus picks for Pastrnak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 How strongly does this franchise believe in DiPietro? This may not be popular around here, but I'd bet Boston looks VERY closely at a Demko/Pasternak deal with some other possible moving parts thrown in. You got to give to get & there's no doubt Demko is pretty familiar to Boston. How much value do we place on scoring vs goaltending? I'm not saying we do this but I bet any conversation b/t JB and Sweeny regarding DP includes Demko's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Fanuck said: How strongly does this franchise believe in DiPietro? This may not be popular around here, but I'd bet Boston looks VERY closely at a Demko/Pasternak deal with some other possible moving parts thrown in. You got to give to get & there's no doubt Demko is pretty familiar to Boston. How much value do we place on scoring vs goaltending? I'm not saying we do this but I bet any conversation b/t JB and Sweeny regarding DP includes Demko's name. That would be a difficult decision to part with that asset (Demko), but you're probably right, any discussion with Boston regarding Pasternak is going to likely include either Demko, Boeser, or OJ - additionally we'd likely have to throw in on top of that because Pasternak is already somewhat proven while our assets aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, Fanuck said: How strongly does this franchise believe in DiPietro? This may not be popular around here, but I'd bet Boston looks VERY closely at a Demko/Pasternak deal with some other possible moving parts thrown in. You got to give to get & there's no doubt Demko is pretty familiar to Boston. How much value do we place on scoring vs goaltending? I'm not saying we do this but I bet any conversation b/t JB and Sweeny regarding DP includes Demko's name. It's highly unlikely we move Demko. Also take into consideration they still have Rask and Subban coming up. If they didn't have Rask I would at least consider it but right now I don't see the point in trading Demko, he's arguably the best goalie prospect we've ever had. I think Boston could be interested in Tanev++ though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 27 minutes ago, Alflives said: Could any trade for Pastrnak start with Loui Errikson? Trading any of our top prospects is not a smart move. I think a trade starting with Eriksson is a good idea, there were some players in the Bruins lineup that were really upset when he wasn't resigned, it would also clear up cap space for Pastrnak. Maybe Eriksson and a 2019/20 1st round pick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, canuckmen84 said: I think a trade starting with Eriksson is a good idea, there were some players in the Bruins lineup that were really upset when he wasn't resigned, it would also clear up cap space for Pastrnak. Maybe Eriksson and a 2019/20 1st round pick ? Is Boston still in win now mode? I wouldn't give up our first, but expect Boston would expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Never want to deal with that team..prefer to shop elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Is Boston still in win now mode? I wouldn't give up our first, but expect Boston would expect it. I think Boston thinks their in a win now mode. I could live with giving up our 2020 pick if it meant gaining a star on the rise, It Would speed up the rebuild. I don't like giving up draft picks but Boston would expect it like you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Would love to get Pastrnak, but BOS would want Horvat+. Canucks can't afford that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 You would be crazy to not move anyone inside the organization beside Horvat for Pastrnak. He scored 34 goals as a 20 y/o. One of the elite young players in the NHL, with the potential to become a franchise winger. The Canucks need a player like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Pears said: It's highly unlikely we move Demko. To be honest, it's highly unlikely Bos even considers moving Pasternak so moot point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, canuckmen84 said: I think Boston thinks their in a win now mode. I could live with giving up our 2020 pick if it meant gaining a star on the rise, It Would speed up the rebuild. I don't like giving up draft picks but Boston would expect it like you mentioned. Tanev, Baertschi, Subban, and our 2019 1st round pick. Would that do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmen84 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Pears said: Tanev, Baertschi, Subban, and our 2019 1st round pick. Would that do it? 100 percent they would take that deal. Me personally I think it's over paying and I would like us to keep Tanev . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Virtanen + Demko + Subban for Pastrnak + 2020 1st rounder. EDIT: I have no idea if this value is remotely close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Pears said: It's highly unlikely we move Demko. Also take into consideration they still have Rask and Subban coming up. If they didn't have Rask I would at least consider it but right now I don't see the point in trading Demko, he's arguably the best goalie prospect we've ever had. I think Boston could be interested in Tanev++ though. Better than Schneider? Wow that would be great for us. Demko and Boeser is probably what it would take. Pass anyways, I'm not a fan of little guys that can score unless they come with the body like St.Louis or the heart like Fluery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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