higgyfan Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Jeff Jackson (Gagner’s agent) on Sam Gagner: “Although he was disappointed out of camp, he was going to go to Toronto and work on his game and wait for an opportunity. He is extremely excited to be back up and has made good strides down in Toronto.” "Personally my view doesn't really matter but Sam shouldn't have left the team in the fall, he was good enough to make that team, personally that’s my opinion. End of the day Sam is there and hopefully there till the end of the season." How would he know that? Was he at the practises and privy to coaching discussions? But yeah, Jeff...your opinion doesn't really matter. 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: “Things change in the NHL week to week and when Sam signed in Vancouver we felt it was the best fit. Strange things happen but Sams approach is stay up and make an impact.” Really? Maybe he didn't play good enough and he was usurped? 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: "The media speculation in the Vancouver market that the Canucks and Sam were done, I think that was totally over-blown. That was never the case, that tweet wasn't right that neither party had moved on. Sam is excited to be back." This is true. 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: "Sam has great vision and skill still, he can help with the powerplay, he will produce. If Sam plays with offensive-minded players like he did last year, with the Sedin twins, Vanek and Boeser, he can produce but that is up to Travis." Or, in other words, Sam has to be on EP40s line. It will be up to Travis whether he produces or not. Sounds like Jeff Jackson should coach the Canucks! I do hope that Gags can play better this time, but I wish his PR agent would stfu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 6 hours ago, higgyfan said: Sounds like Jeff Jackson should coach the Canucks! I do hope that Gags can play better this time, but I wish his PR agent would stfu. Because he totally won't put his client before the rest of the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 11 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Jeff Jackson (Gagner’s agent) on Sam Gagner: “Although he was disappointed out of camp, he was going to go to Toronto and work on his game and wait for an opportunity. He is extremely excited to be back up and has made good strides down in Toronto.” "Personally my view doesn't really matter but Sam shouldn't have left the team in the fall, he was good enough to make that team, personally that’s my opinion. End of the day Sam is there and hopefully there till the end of the season." “Things change in the NHL week to week and when Sam signed in Vancouver we felt it was the best fit. Strange things happen but Sams approach is stay up and make an impact.” "The media speculation in the Vancouver market that the Canucks and Sam were done, I think that was totally over-blown. That was never the case, that tweet wasn't right that neither party had moved on. Sam is excited to be back." "Sam has great vision and skill still, he can help with the powerplay, he will produce. If Sam plays with offensive-minded players like he did last year, with the Sedin twins, Vanek and Boeser, he can produce but that is up to Travis." Alright Sam, your agent did his job. So he has earned 1/3 of your salary like a lawyer. Give him 3 million please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Gagner got a goal and an assist against LA but I just do not like his game. Just play him and try for a TDL deal but that is 3 months away. I suspect his reversion to mean will only take a couple of weeks. The classic play would be to put him on LW with EP40 to pump his numbers and then move him. That puts Goldy on the 2nd line and I am not crazy about that as he is hitting his stride and needs TOI with EP40 and Virtanen to cement his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Seems like the kind of player that needs the motivation of 'playing for a contract'. No sense of urgency after he was given that multi-year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Looks much better after his wake up call Would rather see Sam in lineup than Leipsic, Schaller or Roussell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 21 hours ago, Shift-4 said: Looks much better after his wake up call Would rather see Sam in lineup than Leipsic, Schaller or Roussell Roussell?? You would rather gagner than Roussell???? Hahaha Roussell provides WAY WAY WAY more than Gagner ever has. The other two? Meh...whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 If he keeps playing like this I have zero issue with him being up with the main roster. Anything like the preseason then good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 54 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: If he keeps playing like this I have zero issue with him being up with the main roster. Anything like the preseason then good riddance. I'm hoping the demotion was the wakeup call he needed. Anything like last season or training camp and he has zero business playing in the NHL. I'm still wary of his attitude given how he thought that pitiful excuse for effort was acceptable. Benning I am sure has made it clear there will be no third chances if he opens his mouth or starts floating again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 14 hours ago, King Heffy said: I'm hoping the demotion was the wakeup call he needed. Anything like last season or training camp and he has zero business playing in the NHL. I'm still wary of his attitude given how he thought that pitiful excuse for effort was acceptable. Benning I am sure has made it clear there will be no third chances if he opens his mouth or stas flortating agian. Floating has already started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 anybody else find it telling that Sam has played 1/4 of the season, and is neither listed on the roster or the stats page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, lmm said: anybody else find it telling that Sam has played 1/4 of the season, and is neither listed on the roster or the stats page? Maybe his stay is going to be short If I am interpreting the re-entry waiver rule correctly he can only play a max of two or three more games, or in the case of the 30 day limit, Dec 19th. With Beagle and Sutter both getting closer to returning and some encouraging news about Baertschi making progress; Gagner is most likely going to be sent down and somehow I don't think the re-entry deadline will make hill o beans difference. For the team to make roster room for Beagle and Sutter IMO, I would like them to waive both Gagner and Leipsic and if they are reluctant to waive Leipsic then send Gaudette back down to Utica so he can gain experience by playing big minutes on the Comets vs 10 or so with the Canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, Kootenay Gold said: Maybe his stay is going to be short If I am interpreting the re-entry waiver rule correctly he can only play a max of two or three more games, or in the case of the 30 day limit, Dec 19th. With Beagle and Sutter both getting closer to returning and some encouraging news about Baertschi making progress; Gagner is most likely going to be sent down and somehow I don't think the re-entry deadline will make hill o beans difference. For the team to make roster room for Beagle and Sutter IMO, I would like them to waive both Gagner and Leipsic and if they are reluctant to waive Leipsic then send Gaudette back down to Utica so he can gain experience by playing big minutes on the Comets vs 10 or so with the Canucks Lol. I am pretty sure the team doesn't give a crap if Gagner passes through waivers. They probably want to waive him again and hope another team actually picks up his contract. The normal waiver concerns with gagme don't really count here lol. Edit: disregard: I see you already state that reentry does not matter at all with respect to gagme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I really didn’t think the Canucks would put Sam back in the AHL again. I figured they would trade him. Give him a fresh opportunity. Maybe they tried and no interest at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, John McClane said: I really didn’t think the Canucks would put Sam back in the AHL again. I figured they would trade him. Give him a fresh opportunity. Maybe they tried and no interest at this time. Maybe JB promised to move him back to the Marlies as part of the Leibo deal? Or just maybe he is going to Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On Twitter it says he’s going back to the Marlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Rumour has the Hawks are interested in Gagner. They could have claimed him so they must want some retained salary from Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Rumour has the Hawks are interested in Gagner. They could have claimed him so they must want some retained salary from Van. Makes no sense for us to retain on Gagner. Let him play in the AHL. If the Hawks want him, they can have him for free, but no salary retention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Rumour has the Hawks are interested in Gagner. They could have claimed him so they must want some retained salary from Van. Or they want the ability to send him up and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Makes no sense for us to retain on Gagner. Let him play in the AHL. If the Hawks want him, they can have him for free, but no salary retention. Van could easily retain some salary and still request a player back. Gagner in the right situation could still provide some offense. As CAP space becomes crucial towards the TDL I suspect Benning can get something back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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