Alflives Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, mpt said: If that is true, then why wouldn't Colorado just take the 1st, prospect and a young player? They'd rather have that than two of the above Do you really think we should give up our first round pick for Duchene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, mpt said: I'd do it for Sutter and Hutton To make the cap work that would have to be the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, HC20.0 said: Eerily reminiscent to MG's handling of Luongo. Horrible. The similarities are uncanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Juolevi Sutter Dorsett..... (doubt Colo would do it) Always felt the latter 2 carry negative value. May be early to give up on Juolevi, but he just doesn't project as a #1 franchise type defenceman.... May well be a steady 2-3 guy for a decade at the very top end,,,but also may fall short of that. Taking Sutters 4.5 and Dorsetts 2.5...we could cover Duchenes cap hit and hopefully extend him. This ownership/management group is never going to buy into the tank to rebuild program...nor are the current draft rules gonna allow it. Matt Duchene makes us a much better team today... It could be ugly this year if the Sedins continue their sharp decline...as unfortunately, their ages project them to do. Curious what people feel has more value... Juolevi or next years 1st... assuming Jake is below both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Depends what the asking price going back would be. Currently don't have a number one centre...number one centre available...why not see what the asking price is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead80 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Depends what the asking price going back would be. Currently don't have a number one centre...number one centre available...why not see what the asking price is. Shouldn't a #1 centre consistently be at or around a ppg pace? His numbers have been trending in the wrong direction for a few years now. I agree that Duchene is a good player and has some skill, but I've yet to buy into him being a #1 centre. He has been on some bad teams, and could still improve, but he seems to be more of a 2C that could move up the lineup when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Benning kicks the tyres on everything. That's his job. Sakic wants the sun, the moon and the stars. Benning doesn't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 There is something very wrong with that organization. Someone there is poisoning either their locker room, or it has been an executive who has screwed up the culture. I would not touch any of their players until they start doing a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, nickels said: Juolevi Sutter Dorsett..... (doubt Colo would do it) Always felt the latter 2 carry negative value. May be early to give up on Juolevi, but he just doesn't project as a #1 franchise type defenceman.... May well be a steady 2-3 guy for a decade at the very top end,,,but also may fall short of that. Taking Sutters 4.5 and Dorsetts 2.5...we could cover Duchenes cap hit and hopefully extend him. This ownership/management group is never going to buy into the tank to rebuild program...nor are the current draft rules gonna allow it. Matt Duchene makes us a much better team today... It could be ugly this year if the Sedins continue their sharp decline...as unfortunately, their ages project them to do. Curious what people feel has more value... Juolevi or next years 1st... assuming Jake is below both... if we can somehow convince Joe Suckic to take Goldobin and Sutter it's the best case scenario lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Noseforthenet said: There is something very wrong with that organization. Someone there is poisoning either their locker room, or it has been an executive who has screwed up the culture. I would not touch any of their players until they start doing a bit better. The whole Patrick Roy departure likely still has a lingering effect..... Was a big personality,,,sure he had his supporters (including Duchene likely) From 112 pts a couple yrs ago to this ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 49 minutes ago, Alflives said: Do you really think we should give up our first round pick for Duchene? No of course not, but if thats what they can get then why would they accept our offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 46 minutes ago, Pears said: To make the cap work that would have to be the deal. And with Duchene Horvat Sedin, with Pettersson replacing Henrik, we are set at centre and don't need Sutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, canucklehead80 said: Shouldn't a #1 centre consistently be at or around a ppg pace? His numbers have been trending in the wrong direction for a few years now. I agree that Duchene is a good player and has some skill, but I've yet to buy into him being a #1 centre. He has been on some bad teams, and could still improve, but he seems to be more of a 2C that could move up the lineup when needed. Also on a crappy team playing with MacKinnon as a 1A 1B situation with terrible wingers on a terrible team. Scoring 30 goals 2 years ago is not really trending down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Megna+Chaput+Edler After all....Chaput and Megna are our #1 and #2 centres these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 hours ago, hockeygod77 said: i would trade hutton erickson and give them subban or gauche..for duschene If he were that cheap half the league would have easily matched that offer. Duchene isn't chopped liver. He's worth a lot more than I am willing to give up. They'd be asking for one of our top prospects (Pettersson or Juolevi), Hutton or Gudbranson and likely a first or second rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Benning kicks the tyres on everything. That's his job. Sakic wants the sun, the moon and the stars. Benning doesn't have that. He does, but Boeser isn't going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 38 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: If he were that cheap half the league would have easily matched that offer. Duchene isn't chopped liver. He's worth a lot more than I am willing to give up. They'd be asking for one of our top prospects (Pettersson or Juolevi), Hutton or Gudbranson and likely a first or second rounder. Agreed, I wouldn't give that up either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Horvat, Boeser, Demko for Duchene, 4th That is not even funny! In the slightest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Horvat, Boeser, Demko for Duchene, 4th Weak troll atempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 hours ago, missioncanucksfan said: Sutter won't waive to go to that dog crap situation Subban yes. Sutters NTC doesn't kick in until the 2019 season according to Cap Friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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