Warhippy Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 No secret, all last year I had serious wood for Callan Foote. Kicked myself hard watching Tampa pick him then grabbing Sergachev shortly after. So knowing that we've some cap space, knowing Nolan Foote is a possible top 5 pick next year and knowing Tampa needs some cap space moving forward Ryan Callahan and Callan Foote for Dorsett, Subban 2018 5th and 2019 2nd. Reasoning...Tampa needs space, that Callahan contract is a frigging anchor and unless Stralman goes sooner than later Foote will be wating a long long time behind a stacked blue line. Gives them extra picks, cap space etc. Gives us Cal Foote and ensures we've a quality dman in the wings with size and all we're really giving up is a pick and eating cap space. G'head. Flame away or revise. I'm at work and broed to tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Warhippy said: No secret, all last year I had serious wood for Callan Foote. Kicked myself hard watching Tampa pick him then grabbing Sergachev shortly after. So knowing that we've some cap space, knowing Nolan Foote is a possible top 5 pick next year and knowing Tampa needs some cap space moving forward Ryan Callahan and Callan Foote for Dorsett, Subban 2018 5th and 2019 2nd. Reasoning...Tampa needs space, that Callahan contract is a frigging anchor and unless Stralman goes sooner than later Foote will be wating a long long time behind a stacked blue line. Gives them extra picks, cap space etc. Gives us Cal Foote and ensures we've a quality dman in the wings with size and all we're really giving up is a pick and eating cap space. G'head. Flame away or revise. I'm at work and broed to tears. Last thing Tampa wants to move is a big physical dman who can play defense for a smaller wreck in his own zone. They might consider It if another d prospect was in place. But we already have a contract anchor of our own in Loui not to keen on adding another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 One reason to think about it is he has a buyout friendly contract - see below. But lets go bigger, lets make it Guddy, Dorsett, 2019 2nd for Foote , RC and Tampa's 1st rounder. Buyout Details SEASON SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT ACTUAL COST SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT 2018-19 $4,700,000 $5,800,000 $1,566,667 $3,133,333 $2,666,667 2019-20 $4,700,000 $5,800,000 $1,566,667 $3,133,333 $2,666,667 2020-21 $0 $0 $1,566,667 -$1,566,667 $1,566,667 2021-22 $0 $0 $1,566,667 -$1,566,667 $1,566,667 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Yup I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Note: Tags are mandatory only in the Trades, Rumours, Signings forum and in the Proposals and Armchair GM'ing forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Swap out Subban with Brisebois and then they might consider. (not saying id trade brisebois) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 34 minutes ago, Warhippy said: No secret, all last year I had serious wood for Callan Foote. Kicked myself hard watching Tampa pick him then grabbing Sergachev shortly after. So knowing that we've some cap space, knowing Nolan Foote is a possible top 5 pick next year and knowing Tampa needs some cap space moving forward Ryan Callahan and Callan Foote for Dorsett, Subban 2018 5th and 2019 2nd. Reasoning...Tampa needs space, that Callahan contract is a frigging anchor and unless Stralman goes sooner than later Foote will be wating a long long time behind a stacked blue line. Gives them extra picks, cap space etc. Gives us Cal Foote and ensures we've a quality dman in the wings with size and all we're really giving up is a pick and eating cap space. G'head. Flame away or revise. I'm at work and broed to tears. No flaming but don't believe Canucks should trade any draft picks unless it is in a package for a generational player or a top 3 pick. When you are re-establishing your cupboard, draft picks are vitally important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtieCanuck Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Yeah, I would definitely make that trade. It would be good for the Canucks cap wise, it would be good for Tampa personnel wise. Honestly, I think Subban needs to be traded for any chance to have a NHL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: One reason to think about it is he has a buyout friendly contract - see below. But lets go bigger, lets make it Guddy, Dorsett, 2019 2nd for Foote , RC and Tampa's 1st rounder. Buyout Details SEASON SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT ACTUAL COST SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT 2018-19 $4,700,000 $5,800,000 $1,566,667 $3,133,333 $2,666,667 2019-20 $4,700,000 $5,800,000 $1,566,667 $3,133,333 $2,666,667 2020-21 $0 $0 $1,566,667 -$1,566,667 $1,566,667 2021-22 $0 $0 $1,566,667 -$1,566,667 $1,566,667 Bingo! If anything we're giving to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 43 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: No flaming but don't believe Canucks should trade any draft picks unless it is in a package for a generational player or a top 3 pick. When you are re-establishing your cupboard, draft picks are vitally important. It's a 5th and 2nd in varying years for what I feel is a highly underrated gem of a damn If anything is say we're giving too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I would easily do that. Foote is gonna be a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 54 minutes ago, Odd. said: Swap out Subban with Brisebois and then they might consider. (not saying id trade brisebois) I dont know man...that 5.8 million is a huge anchor and possibly yzermans only real mistake as gm Getting out of that would be worth it as we've seen repeatedly over the last 3 years with teams paying a premium to dump cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Just now, Pears said: I would easily do that. Foote is gonna be a stud. Yup. Watching him in Kelowna has been a treat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I don't see any reason why Tampa would do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Patrick Kane. said: I don't see any reason why Tampa would do this. Cap space. They've a number of players due raises soon and not much space to work with. Lose a prospect and tough contract now or be forced to make losing trades later ensuring the loss of a few pieces of youth over 1. 2 seasons ago nobody could see then seeing D'Angelo out either and.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Yzerman is not going to do any favours for Benning, nor accept favours from Benning. Why doesn't Tampa just buy out Callahan themselves, trade a D man and promote Foote? Outside of that there are 29 other teams for Yzerman to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 46 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I dont know man...that 5.8 million is a huge anchor and possibly yzermans only real mistake as gm Getting out of that would be worth it as we've seen repeatedly over the last 3 years with teams paying a premium to dump cap In that case, shouldn't they be adding more? Would love for us to snag Mathieu Joseph or get their 1st rounder of this years and the 2018 2nd rounder of Washington's that they have. But unfortunately, we'd probably have to off-load one of our veterans to make room for Callahan which will be very tough to do. So I don't really know how this trade is going to work out. I think we have only $2M of cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superlative Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Superlative said: hi Hi:) Love this proposal. I wonder if we need to add Gudbranson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: I dont know man...that 5.8 million is a huge anchor and possibly yzermans only real mistake as gm Getting out of that would be worth it as we've seen repeatedly over the last 3 years with teams paying a premium to dump cap please give some examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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