aGENT Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 9:32 AM, Jimmy McGill said: there was an interesting article yesterday on the veteran log-jam in Utica now: https://canucksarmy.com/2017/10/04/the-comets-are-loaded-and-its-going-to-cause-some-problems/ "This is a major problem. What this means is that only five of Patrick Wiercioch, Anton Rodin, Darren Archibald, Michael Chaput, Jayson Megna, Carter Bancks, Wacey Hamilton, and Jaime Sifers will be able to play on any given night. And only four of them will be able to play if you want to also play both Reid Boucher and Philip Holm." Has to be some trades coming... 55 minutes ago, oldnews said: Loan out Megna. Loaning him and Hamilton solves some of the problem certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 9:32 AM, Jimmy McGill said: there was an interesting article yesterday on the veteran log-jam in Utica now: https://canucksarmy.com/2017/10/04/the-comets-are-loaded-and-its-going-to-cause-some-problems/ "This is a major problem. What this means is that only five of Patrick Wiercioch, Anton Rodin, Darren Archibald, Michael Chaput, Jayson Megna, Carter Bancks, Wacey Hamilton, and Jaime Sifers will be able to play on any given night. And only four of them will be able to play if you want to also play both Reid Boucher and Philip Holm." That is nothing but the usual, boyscout drama. Last year Utica had a 'major problem' when the Canucks were hammered with injuries and poached half their roster. That list is a bunch of AHL veterans - Bancks, Hamilton, Sifers - are AHL contracts - that will never play for the Canucks. Megna, Chaput etc - do not need development - it does not matter to this team whether they are Comets or loan outs - if/when you recall them, they are the same player regardless. Rodin is the one player there that you want to control his recovery, minutes etc - and that is a simple matter and a no-brainer - you keep Rodin active in Utica. Much ado about nothing. These are peripheral and virtual non-issues that are easy to sort out. Move Sifers - a 34 yr old AHL journeyman. Loan Megna. Whatever - it really doesn't matter much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, oldnews said: That is nothing but the usual, boyscout drama. Last year Utica had a 'major problem' when the Canucks were hammered with injuries and poached half their roster. That list is a bunch of AHL veterans - Bancks, Hamilton, Sifers - are AHL contracts - that will never play for the Canucks. Megna, Chaput etc - do not need development - it does not matter to this team whether they are Comets or loan outs - if/when you recall them, they are the same player regardless. Rodin is the one player there that you want to control his recovery, minutes etc - and that is a simple matter and a no-brainer - you keep Rodin active in Utica. Much ado about nothing. These are peripheral and virtual non-issues that are easy to sort out. Move Sifers - a 34 yr old AHL journeyman. Loan Megna. Whatever - it really doesn't matter much. true dat. I just hope it doesn't get in the way of Holm and Rodin's progression, which it likely won't. I'm sure Cull has his marching orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Big problem -- Canucks hit with injuries and have no depth. Big problem -- Canuck have too much depth. Par for the media course, whether CanucksArmy, Gallagher, or Pratt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: true dat. I just hope it doesn't get in the way of Holm and Rodin's progression, which it likely won't. I'm sure Cull has his marching orders. Green played his vets a lot but it was to push the young guys to dislodge them. Virtanen eventually did. Green wants players to understand that they have to battle for their spot each and every game. It's not that dry. He had Cassels in the lineup when he hadn't earned a spot but he had to play games to get into game shape with all his injuries. The idea is still that if a player can't crack an AHL lineup with AHLers he likely won't be able to crack a NHL lineup with NHLers. Megna and Chaput, as productive AHLers, are also there to push guys to beat them out. Green wants to elevate the standards and not make it easier. If Rodin is really that good he'll earn a spot over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 If we loan out Weirdroach, it might be a good story feel, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: If we loan out Weirdroach, it might be a good story feel, eh? I can't see loaning out Weirdroach.... he will most likely be playing some games this year with the Canucks once injuries occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 10/4/2017 at 9:44 AM, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Megnad - that sounds tougher and more "truculent" than Megna. Perhaps that will transform him into Megnadsonic or something eventually and give Willie a permanent "Willie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: Big problem -- Canucks hit with injuries and have no depth. Big problem -- Canuck have too much depth. Par for the media course, whether CanucksArmy, Gallagher, or Pratt. Fire Benning and Linden! They have no plan!...Sometimes it really is hard to digest our media. Bunch of drama queens trying to sell their negative spin all in the hopes of getting better ratings while disregarding the true facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: If we loan out Weirdroach, it might be a good story feel, eh? Lol, you got into that mess of a thread I see! Real Gud story for sure! Although I feel like Wiercoch might not find it so gud of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodCanadianKideh Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Could loan Philip Holm to the Växjö HC where he played last year. That gets rid of one of the vet from Utica. He could even get paired with Juolevi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeBee51 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Can we loan out the Vancouver media...... Easter Island at least till easter maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 22 minutes ago, CeeBee51 said: Can we loan out the Vancouver media...... Easter Island at least till easter maybe? Yes. B-otch-ford to Robidas Island. Gallagher to Hodgson island. canucksarmy to Siberia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeBee51 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, oldnews said: Yes. B-otch-ford to Robidas Island. Gallagher to Hodgson island. canucksarmy to Siberia. And the rest we can put on the last train to Clarksville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 3 hours ago, GoodCanadianKideh said: Could loan Philip Holm to the Växjö HC where he played last year. That gets rid of one of the vet from Utica. He could even get paired with Juolevi! We need him to learn the NA game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 3 hours ago, GoodCanadianKideh said: Could loan Philip Holm to the Växjö HC where he played last year. That gets rid of one of the vet from Utica. He could even get paired with Juolevi! Holm is not a vet of 320 pro games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafayettecrossbar Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 05/10/2017 at 9:32 AM, Jimmy McGill said: there was an interesting article yesterday on the veteran log-jam in Utica now: https://canucksarmy.com/2017/10/04/the-comets-are-loaded-and-its-going-to-cause-some-problems/ "This is a major problem. What this means is that only five of Patrick Wiercioch, Anton Rodin, Darren Archibald, Michael Chaput, Jayson Megna, Carter Bancks, Wacey Hamilton, and Jaime Sifers will be able to play on any given night. And only four of them will be able to play if you want to also play both Reid Boucher and Philip Holm." According to this article, in this particular scenario ECHL games don't count as professional games played. Does anybody know why? It's a professional league, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck_In_Paradise Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I see no need in playing the AHL veterans while we have our NHL-level vets down there. Why not just make it simple and send the AHL-vets to the ECHL, or am I missing a hidden rule that doesn't allow that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 7 hours ago, Lafayettecrossbar said: According to this article, in this particular scenario ECHL games don't count as professional games played. Does anybody know why? It's a professional league, no? maybe its not considered a full pro league like the BCHL, Alberta hockey league, etc. ? good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Lafayettecrossbar said: According to this article, in this particular scenario ECHL games don't count as professional games played. Does anybody know why? It's a professional league, no? It's in their CBA. Guessing they want leagues of at least equivalent value. The AHL limits proven pros/vets because it's a developmental league. A player coming from a less competitive league like the ECHL still needs development time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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