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On 10/6/2017 at 3:12 PM, Ghostsof1915 said:

So, Gillis's woeful drafting and leaving the cupboards bare gets a pass, and all the blame on Benning? 

That's like Obama being blamed for the bump fire device. Excuse me, wasn't he the one that the Right was screaming was going to take away all their guns? Did he invent, market and sell the device? No. Love how people twist facts to suit their narrative. 

Are you denying the facts or just "greasing the pan"

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On 10/6/2017 at 3:37 PM, Hutton Wink said:

On the contrary, Benning actually tried to stabilize and deepen the roster, acquiring the likes of Vey, Baertschi, Pedan, Granlund, Etem, and Dorsett for draft picks plus signing UFAs like Weber, Bartkowski, Eriksson, etc.  Of course he was then criticized for that as an attempt to "win now" and "refusing to rebuild".

He was not deepening the roster when we look at what WD had to start off his 2nd year with. He actually gained the playoffs in his first season.

 

Vey Baertschi, Pedan Granlund Etem 4 of them were projects. Pedan proved to be unplayable. Etem was a dud. Dorsett and Vey replaced Kesler and Matthias.

 

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2016.html

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19 minutes ago, alfstonker said:

Are you denying the facts or just "greasing the pan"

Are you? We didn't win a cup. From 2008-2013, 5 players with 100 games or more out of 43 draft picks. 

I'm sorry we can agree to disagree, there was a reason fans were chanting for him to be fired.

Face it, the core of the team Schneider, Luongo, Elder, Kesler, Henrik and Daniel, Bieksa were all in place BEFORE Gillis took over. 

 

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008756.html

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Re the veteran limit.  Looking at the lineup in Utica tonight - Holm is not a veteran.  Games in Allsvenskan do not count towards veteran status.

 

They had Archibald, Megna, Chaput, Hamilton, Bancks - those are 5 veterans with over 320 games and Boucher who has 260 games.  

 

They also had Holm in the lineup so Allsvenskan games don't count.  If they had he would be in the same category as Boucher and in that case only 4 of the veterans of more than 320 games could have dressed and they had 5 in the lineup.

 

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On 10/7/2017 at 3:41 PM, alfstonker said:

He was not deepening the roster when we look at what WD had to start off his 2nd year with. He actually gained the playoffs in his first season.

 

Vey Baertschi, Pedan Granlund Etem 4 of them were projects. Pedan proved to be unplayable. Etem was a dud. Dorsett and Vey replaced Kesler and Matthias.

 

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2016.html

I said he TRIED to deepen the roster, like last summer where he publicly wanted to sign another top-6 scorer but was unable.  Whether the players turned out or not is completely irrelevant. 

 

Must you turn every single comment about the team into a defence of Desjardins when most of the time they are irrelevant?  It's not only tiresome but becoming borderline obsessive, much like your irrational obsession over Kassian.

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