[Injuries] Canucks 2017/18

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, mll said:

Wiercioch has been recalled to be the extra.  Pouliot has played RD in the past and looked good last game on his off-side.  Green says it was his best game.

Where is Subban on the depth chart?  I wonder if the Canucks would call for Chatfield ahead of Jordan?  

[RWMc1]

5 minutes ago, mll said:

Wiercioch has been recalled to be the extra.  Pouliot has played RD in the past and looked good last game on his off-side.  Green says it was his best game.

That doesn't answer the question though.

 

We have 5 left shooting d-men and 2 right shooting available on our roster now that Tanev and Stecher are injured. Is that sustainable over 3+ weeks? 

 

The question was, is our forward situation hampering our ability to call up a rightie?

[86Viking]

34 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Where is Subban on the depth chart?  I wonder if the Canucks would call for Chatfield ahead of Jordan?  

Maybe Subban first as he is a ahl vet and we are log jammed with vets in utica. Wouldnt mind seeing him on a PP unit if he did ever get an nhl game with us

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, Yotes said:

Maybe Subban first as he is a ahl vet and we are log jammed with vets in utica. Wouldnt mind seeing him on a PP unit if he did ever get an nhl game with us

70’s Movie, where Robbie Benson plays a star high school basketball player, who tries really hard to make some fancy college team.  He’s an offensive wizard, but the coach always punishes him for his creativity.  Finally Benson gets a chance to show his skills on national TV, and plays fabulously.  He tells the coach to (basically) stick it.  I wonder if Subban is our Robbie Benson, and just needs a fair opportunity?  

[mll]

12 hours ago, RWMc1 said:

That doesn't answer the question though.

 

We have 5 left shooting d-men and 2 right shooting available on our roster now that Tanev and Stecher are injured. Is that sustainable over 3+ weeks? 

 

The question was, is our forward situation hampering our ability to call up a rightie?

Yes - with two extra Fs they can only have one extra D.  They don't think they need a RD though because Pouliot has already played that side in the past.  It's a side he likes playing.  In San Jose they even played the last 9min of the game with only the 4LDs - Gudbranson and Biega finished their night early.  

 

Even when Stecher comes back it's likely Biega, a RD, that comes out.  If they felt so strongly about having an extra RD in the pressbox they would switch Wiercioch with someone else from Utica (wouldn't help the vet situation though).

 

[tyhee]

On 11/12/2017 at 2:31 PM, Yotes said:

Maybe Subban first as he is a ahl vet and we are log jammed with vets in utica. Wouldnt mind seeing him on a PP unit if he did ever get an nhl game with us

Subban is in his 3rd season in the AHL.  For purposes of the AHL development rules, though, he isn't a vet until he's over 260 regular season games as of the end of the preceding season.  As of the end of 2016-17 he had 132. 

 

Calling him up to the NHL would do nothing to reduce the number of veterans (by AHL definition) on the Utica roster-though injuries have reduced that issue a little bit compared to what it was earlier.  The lack of quality centers is probably a bigger issue in Utica these days.

[86Viking]

1 hour ago, tyhee said:

Subban is in his 3rd season in the AHL.  For purposes of the AHL development rules, though, he isn't a vet until he's over 260 regular season games as of the end of the preceding season.  As of the end of 2016-17 he had 132. 

 

Calling him up to the NHL would do nothing to reduce the number of veterans (by AHL definition) on the Utica roster-though injuries have reduced that issue a little bit compared to what it was earlier.  The lack of quality centers is probably a bigger issue in Utica these days.

my bad

[mll]

Kuzma in the Province:  Green said he expects to have Chris Tanev (thumb) back in 1 1/2 weeks. That might make the defenceman eligible to return at some point in the team’s six-game road trip that opens next Tuesday in Philadelphia.

 

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[DownUndaCanuck]

Would be nice to see Wiercioch get some games in over Biega for a change, even just to see how he goes.

[TheGuardian_]

The Canucks are 4th in the league for man games lost to date.

Anaheim (over 100) and Buffalo (99) lead the league.

Apart from Tanev and Stecher can you honestly say injuries are why the team is where they are?

Is it an excuse again? Yet?

[oldnews]

48 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said:

The Canucks are 4th in the league for man games lost to date.

Anaheim (over 100) and Buffalo (99) lead the league.

Apart from Tanev and Stecher can you honestly say injuries are why the team is where they are?

Is it an excuse again? Yet?

I'm curious.  Anaheim is behind Vancouver in the standings thus far.  Would this be because of injuries?  Is it an 'excuse' for them?

Sure sounds like you're making that excuse for them, citing the relevence of their man games lost, ironically.

"Apart from"....

 

Here's the thing:  who gives a crap about excuses?  The Canucks aren't making excuses.  Anaheim aren't making excuses.

Fans like yourself are the only people who dwell on this irrelevency.

Injuries reflect a reality.  Some teams are healthier than others.  It is a factor, regardless of how people like yourself spin it.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[48MPHSlapShot]

3 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said:

The Canucks are 4th in the league for man games lost to date.

Anaheim (over 100) and Buffalo (99) lead the league.

Apart from Tanev and Stecher can you honestly say injuries are why the team is where they are?

Is it an excuse again? Yet?

Who's making excuses?

 

This just seems like a mean spirited post for the sake of a mean spirited post.

[canuck73_3]

3 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said:

The Canucks are 4th in the league for man games lost to date.

Anaheim (over 100) and Buffalo (99) lead the league.

Apart from Tanev and Stecher can you honestly say injuries are why the team is where they are?

Is it an excuse again? Yet?

Resident troll comes out of his cave again. 

[TheGuardian_]

2 minutes ago, oldnews said:

I'm curious.  Anaheim is behind Vancouver in the standings thus far.  Would this be because of injuries?  Is it an 'excuse' for them?

Sure sounds like you're making that excuse for them, citing the relevence of their man games lost, ironically.

 

Here's the thing:  who gives a crap about excuses?  The Canucks aren't making excuses.  Anaheim aren't making excuses.

Fans like yourself are the only people who dwell on this irrelevency.

Injuries reflect a reality.  Some teams are healthier than others.  It is a factor, regardless of how people like yourself spin it.

Your barking up the wrong tree on that one.

My comments here are only relevant to the thread subject and if anything are being sarcastic as injuries have been the excuse every year for managements' woeful job. Except the worst year in Canuck history, the year Tort's coached.

A lot of fans have given a pass to coaches and management for the injury bug even though other teams experience more and/or worse injuries to vital players.

You don't have to go back too far to find management stating injuries, in part, in explaining the team's position standings.

 

As far as Anaheim being 1 point behind the Nucks with a game in hand? Yes injuries have hurt them, injuries to key players and it is an indication of how much further ahead/better they are of the Canucks as a team

[canuck73_3]

3 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said:

Your barking up the wrong tree on that one.

My comments here are only relevant to the thread subject and if anything are being sarcastic as injuries have been the excuse every year for managements' woeful job. Except the worst year in Canuck history, the year Tort's coached.

A lot of fans have given a pass to coaches and management for the injury bug even though other teams experience more and/or worse injuries to vital players.

You don't have to go back too far to find management stating injuries, in part, in explaining the team's position standings.

 

As far as Anaheim being 1 point behind the Nucks with a game in hand? Yes injuries have hurt them, injuries to key players and it is an indication of how much further ahead/better they are of the Canucks as a team

Lol argues injuries aren't an excuse for Vancouver then excuses Anaheim because of injuries. 

[TheGuardian_]

19 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Lol argues injuries aren't an excuse for Vancouver then excuses Anaheim because of injuries. 

What argue, I am using what most OTHER posters and management say is an excuse.

but

Of course injuries will impact a team but when trotting out the number of lost games due to injury sometimes the player and position have to be taken into account. How did Rodin missing all last year impact the team? He hadn't played the year before or even made the team, but his time off was used as an excuse ditto with Menga and other AHL players that got injured after a game in the NHL and then listed as "man games" lost even though their impact would have been marginal.

 

Anaheim needs no excuse at all, they are hunting down the Nucks even though the injuries to their impact players is was over the value of Cassels being listed for a number of games. It should be an embarrassment to the Nucks that a team with that many injuries to that many vital players not only defeats them, but manages them that easily. One fluke goal when Bieska passes right on to Sven stick and a wide open net.

 

So for those that use the number of games lost to excuse poor performance I keep count just to meter performance periodically during the season rather than at the end when forgotten is WHO was injured and how vital those players were. How many poster are aware that the Nucks already have 50+ man games lost due to injury? Who were they?

 

 

[canuck73_3]

9 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said:

What argue, I am using what most OTHER posters and management say is an excuse.

but

Of course injuries will impact a team but when trotting out the number of lost games due to injury sometimes the player and position have to be taken into account. How did Rodin missing all last year impact the team? He hadn't played the year before or even made the team, but his time off was used as an excuse ditto with Menga and other AHL players that got injured after a game in the NHL and then listed as team games lost even though their impact would have been marginal.

 

Anaheim needs no excuse at all, they are hunting down the Nucks even though the injuries to their impact players is was over the value of Cassels being listed for a number of games. It should be an embarrassment to the Nucks that a team with that many injuries to that many vital players not only defeats them but manages them that easily. One fluke goal when Bieska passes right on to Sven stick and a wide open net.

 

So for those that use the number of games lost to excuse poor performance I keep count just to meter performance periodically during the season rather than at the end when forgotten WHO was injured and how vital those players were. How many poster are aware that the Nucks already have 50+ games lost due to injury? Who were they?

 

 

All I'm seeing is you excusing Anaheim and whining about management, we're a team that is rebuilding and whether you agree with the approach or not we have been for a few seasons. Obviously injuries are going to hit a rebuilding team harder, example: Edmonton losing McDavid. 

 

Injuries aren't an excuse they're a reality, deep teams/contenders may salvage their season and finish strong bubble teams and rebuilding teams more often than not struggle. 

 

Just another thinly veiled JB hate post by you though more or less.