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4 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

Still not a fan of Pouliot's game.  he has made strides this year, but his game is too far sporadic in all three zones.  For a puck moving dman, his mobility and lateral movements is quite average.

Wildly inconsistent imo. Makes a great play offensively only to make a boneheaded play on defense. I'm not a big fan either.

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11 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

Still not a fan of Pouliot's game.  he has made strides this year, but his game is too far sporadic in all three zones.  For a puck moving dman, his mobility and lateral movements is quite average.

I am a fan of his game mainly because of the potential he has/had, but lately I’m finding myself very frustrated with all the mistakes he’s make. Yesterday when he was on the PP that was really pathetic and when Edler  is back I hope he doesn’t even get Hutton spot. All these little mistakes have crept his way into his game and he really need to clean it up, the wake up call for him is going to be when Edler is healthy and joulevi and Hughes make the jump. He really needs to stop turning the puck over in bads spots, I understand mistakes happen but the way they are happening to this guy is unreal, Also he’s pretty snake bitten when it come to scoring. But I have liked the way he rushes the puck up ice, he surely isn’t lacking confidence and I hope that continues and he gets on the score board more often.

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1 hour ago, Dats hockey said:

I am a fan of his game mainly because of the potential he has/had, but lately I’m finding myself very frustrated with all the mistakes he’s make. Yesterday when he was on the PP that was really pathetic and when Edler  is back I hope he doesn’t even get Hutton spot. All these little mistakes have crept his way into his game and he really need to clean it up, the wake up call for him is going to be when Edler is healthy and joulevi and Hughes make the jump. He really needs to stop turning the puck over in bads spots, I understand mistakes happen but the way they are happening to this guy is unreal, Also he’s pretty snake bitten when it come to scoring. But I have liked the way he rushes the puck up ice, he surely isn’t lacking confidence and I hope that continues and he gets on the score board more often.

Is he trying to do too much? I believe that when Edler gets back, he, (DP) and MDZ are going to be that 6th guy on the blueline.

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He was our high minute man on D last night. Due in part to PP time. Yes, he's had some mistakes, and I too worry about his lack of urgency. Green sees something in him though, enough to give him a tonne of time. I'm still routing for Pouliot, but that's starting to wane. 

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10 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said:

Green sees something in him though, enough to give him a tonne of time. 

Probably that despite his is occasional lapses, errors etc, he's got some of the best fancy stats on our D, generally transitions the puck well etc, etc.

 

He seems to be running in to a similar problem to the haterade Edler recieves. Play a lot of minutes, (generally over his head) and despite playing 90-95% of the game well and helping the team, some people insist on only focusing on the 5-10% where you made a bad read, fumbled the puck etc.

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Green knows Pouliot well, from junior, like he did Baertschi.  Have to figure he'll determine if/when it's time to pull the plug should he determine DP isn't going to make it, then JB will move him.

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19 hours ago, aGENT said:

Probably that despite his is occasional lapses, errors etc, he's got some of the best fancy stats on our D, generally transitions the puck well etc, etc.

 

He seems to be running in to a similar problem to the haterade Edler recieves. Play a lot of minutes, (generally over his head) and despite playing 90-95% of the game well and helping the team, some people insist on only focusing on the 5-10% where you made a bad read, fumbled the puck etc.

Easy fix. Hutty has shown he can manage more TOI effectively. Drop Pouliot to the 2PP and give 1PP to hutty. Work him while hes hot ,see what hes got.

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19 hours ago, aGENT said:

Probably that despite his is occasional lapses, errors etc, he's got some of the best fancy stats on our D, generally transitions the puck well etc, etc.

 

He seems to be running in to a similar problem to the haterade Edler recieves. Play a lot of minutes, (generally over his head) and despite playing 90-95% of the game well and helping the team, some people insist on only focusing on the 5-10% where you made a bad read, fumbled the puck etc.

Fans quickly forget how young Pouliot's career still is. +/- 150 NHL games. Be patient. He has to have the TOI in situations that his skills compliment. Let him play and we can all diagnosis his progress next February.  

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1 hour ago, Dannydog said:

Easy fix. Hutty has shown he can manage more TOI effectively. Drop Pouliot to the 2PP and give 1PP to hutty. Work him while hes hot ,see what hes got.

Hutton's had opportunity on the PP and didn't look particularly dynamic with it. Pouliot's been 'ok'. 

 

Until Hughes (and Juolevi to a lesser extent) arrives, as long as he's healthy, Edler's still our best option there unfortunately.

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30 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Hutton's had opportunity on the PP and didn't look particularly dynamic with it. Pouliot's been 'ok'. 

 

Until Hughes (and Juolevi to a lesser extent) arrives, as long as he's healthy, Edler's still our best option there unfortunately.

Hutton has had 2PP opportunities yes and with that looked more dynamic than pouliot in my opinion. Holds the line better and gets shots threw ,that leads me to believe playing on the 1PP will translate into better scoring chances with obviously the better of the PP specialists.So why play "ok" when you dont have to.Hughes isn't here yet and Eddys still out . Lets work with what we have atm.

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10 minutes ago, Dannydog said:

Hutton has had 2PP opportunities yes and with that looked more dynamic than pouliot in my opinion. Holds the line better and gets shots threw ,that leads me to believe playing on the 1PP will translate into better scoring chances with obviously the better of the PP specialists.So why play "ok" when you dont have to.Hughes isn't here yet and Eddys still out . Lets work with what we have atm.

Coach's seem to disagree with you. I'm inclined to agree with them.

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12 hours ago, Hutton Wink said:

Green knows Pouliot well, from junior, like he did Baertschi.  Have to figure he'll determine if/when it's time to pull the plug should he determine DP isn't going to make it, then JB will move him.

So is Poiliot to Green what Vey was to Willie?

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5 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Coach's seem to disagree with you. I'm inclined to agree with them.

For now. Didn't see Hutty get any PP time until injuries occurred. The coaches then decided he was the best to take over the 2PP duties, and doing it well. Whats to say they don't believe he's won out over pouliot and just looking at options. If he seems overwhelmed with this TOI (as mentioned before)and is faultering slightly causing him to not play up to his standards or reach his potential dial him back a bit  to regroup. LOL and this is just my opinion and am not pretending to know anymore then any NHL coach . Its easy to say you agree when its the norm.

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1 hour ago, Dannydog said:

For now. Didn't see Hutty get any PP time until injuries occurred. The coaches then decided he was the best to take over the 2PP duties, and doing it well. Whats to say they don't believe he's won out over pouliot and just looking at options. If he seems overwhelmed with this TOI (as mentioned before)and is faultering slightly causing him to not play up to his standards or reach his potential dial him back a bit  to regroup. LOL and this is just my opinion and am not pretending to know anymore then any NHL coach . Its easy to say you agree when its the norm.

I actually already stated why. That the NHL coaches also seem to agree with that is just another reason.

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I did a quick analysis of some stats and found Pouliot's numbers to be far better than I expected. Perhaps I've been too hard on him. That or my stats are garbage. :lol:

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he's a lousy dman, it truly is, I want nothing but to see Pouliout do well and succeed, but his I believe this is his last season to prove himself.  No way Juolevi makes the mistakes he does.

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4 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said:

he's a lousy dman, it truly is, I want nothing but to see Pouliout do well and succeed, but his I believe this is his last season to prove himself.  No way Juolevi makes the mistakes he does.

I think this season is his last season here in Vancouver, if he doesn't improve his game immediately. His turnovers are horrible, almost always right in front of our net.

I've always supported him, but he hasn't really improve his game in my opinion. I hope that JB involve him in a trade instead of MDZ, for a RHD.

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Looking more and more like Pouliot is one of the odd men out with Hughes and Juolevi on the way. Really hope we get eagle back soon! 

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I imagine the conversation is the same over in the Goldobin thread?

 

These young guys are playing well enough to earn a chance. Add speed, some skill to our line up. 

 

And CDC is mocking what their opinion of a top line forward, top pair D is against how these guys are doing. Disappointing!

 

When in fact these guys, not perfect and all, are helping our team. And our team is doing better than expected. Without these guys getting any respect due, credit, or even appreciation.

 

Disappointing.

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