Darius Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, Jayinblack said: It's their battle level and smart little plays/passes to use each other which stand out over other years. I don't miss Eriksson at all because he seemed to reach in and lose every battle. No one looked lazy last night. Hows that new rink in Detroit? I remember going from the Pacific Coliseum to Rogers Arena and felt like the place lacked the character and soul of the old place...that and the smell of gourmet stir frys and lattes made the place feel more like a hotel venue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I wouldn't trade DD for McDavid... Don't like Connor's contract. DD will be making 1/5th of McDavid money next year and out scoring him. GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayinblack Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, Darius71 said: Hows that new rink in Detroit? I remember going from the Pacific Coliseum to Rogers Arena and felt like the place lacked the character and soul of the old place...that and the smell of gourmet stir frys and lattes made the place feel more like a hotel venue! Loved it! No comparison to the Joe as the area around the new one is right in the entertainment district and has way more amenities inside. Also there's a mezzanine level as well as gondalas, which along with the upper level, are much steeper for better viewing (saw Paul McCartney from the upper level a couple weeks ago). Plus the main level concourse is at ground level, whereas at the Joe you had to go up 2-3 stories of stairs just to get inside. Another cool aspect is the scoreboard. The inside is hollow, and there are TOI and other stats on the INSIDE screens for you to look at (lower level angle only I'm guessing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, apollo said: I wouldn't trade DD for McDavid... Don't like Connor's contract. DD will be making 1/5th of McDavid money next year and out scoring him. GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT Apollo just went full Apollo....Apollo2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: There's a 9 minute difference between the top ranked forward and the lowest ice time forward. No matter how you want to slice it that's not even. Like I said would happen. Quote FYI...PP and PK come into consideration when looking at TOI. With only three penalties last night it became more obvious. But the fact remains -- 5v5 he's rolling the lines pretty effectively, and the right players are leading in TOI as they should. Jake's being eased in and his TOI will increase, but can anyone argue with that 5V5 deployment? Anyone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, chon derry said: @stawns you asked how was it dirty? looking for a player with his head down feet leaving the ice , while he is skating backwards he does take a couple of cross overs, the charging penalty says more than 3 strides its a penalty it doesn't however say anything about the skating backwards equvelant "crossover" DIRTY ! and I stand by that claim.and i'm not alone with that claim but more to my point at least JV was aware of it maybe you should buy a #55 Detroit jersey., That's a lot of dirty hits if you ask me. Leaving his feet, head shots, targeting players. A good many of those hits would receive a suspension these days. Going up to a player backwards and being on Detroit, doesn't make his hits less dirty. He searches the ice for a player that has his head down. Makes what Jake did even more delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, Hutton Wink said: With only two penalties last night it became more obvious. But the fact remains -- 5v5 he's rolling the lines pretty effectively, and the right players are leading in TOI as they should. Jake's being eased in and his TOI will increase, but can anyone argue with that 5V5 deployment? Anyone?? Again what does EV ice time have to do with total TOI? Do we expect PP and PK not to affect the majority of the games. Is 2 penalties the new norm? NO, ok then why post this? It bring zero to the conversation about players total ice time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: That's a lot of dirty hits if you ask me. Leaving his feet, head shots, targeting players. A good many of those hits would receive a suspension these days. Going up to a player backwards and being on Detroit, doesn't make his hits less dirty. He searches the ice for a player that has his head down. Makes what Jake did even more delicious. he's exploiting something that's not in the charging infraction rule DIRTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, chon derry said: he's exploiting something that's not in the charging infraction rule DIRTY. If it's not a rule, how is it dirty? Isn't the definition of dirty play getting away with a rule infraction? Anyone who wouldn't kill to see Kronwall in a Canucks uni, hitting people like that at the blue line is full of sh!t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Bagues Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, higgyfan said: That's a lot of dirty hits if you ask me. Leaving his feet, head shots, targeting players. A good many of those hits would receive a suspension these days. Going up to a player backwards and being on Detroit, doesn't make his hits less dirty. He searches the ice for a player that has his head down. Makes what Jake did even more delicious. There's an expression in hockey - keep your head up - for various reasons. If your head is down you can expect to get nailed. Leaving your feet is dirty, as is a crosscheck, stick to the face, an elbow or a knee, but hitting a guy who skates with his head up his arse is not. If it is your probably watching ringette or figure skating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Apollo just went full Apollo....Apollo2 ? If only this was a giphy of a real athlete like DD though. I bet @Toni Zamboni could make an epic Canuck player going super sayan lol ... anyone still have that one he made of Cory and Luongo leaving town in flames? Always loled at that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuitnTie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Darius71 said: I ripped this off from the province incase you guys did not see it. It will give you a good laugh When asked what Hank was saying Jake said "“Henrik was asking me if it always takes 12 shots for me to score.” That's hilarious :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaGuy Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, stawns said: If it's not a rule, how is it dirty? Isn't the definition of dirty play getting away with a rule infraction? Anyone who wouldn't kill to see Kronwall in a Canucks uni, hitting people like that at the blue line is full of sh!t I love when Edler stands up at the blue line. Loved it when Ohlund did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Again what does EV ice time have to do with total TOI? Do we expect PP and PK not to affect the majority of the games. Is 2 penalties the new norm? NO, ok then why post this? It bring zero to the conversation about players total ice time. Your original comment was not about "total ice time": 4 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: As I said rolling a line only works when canucks have a healthy lead. How’s it looking over the first 8 games. Hmmm.... Just showed you how it's looking. The lines are within 25% TOI top to bottom, for the entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, stawns said: If it's not a rule, how is it dirty? Isn't the definition of dirty play getting away with a rule infraction? Anyone who wouldn't kill to see Kronwall in a Canucks uni, hitting people like that at the blue line is full of sh!t was a bit of a dirty player myself ,one things for sure revenge is always served ,your wife being from pr might have seen some of that in the kings or nats games. next your going to say he doesn't have intent to injure as well? he's dirty end of..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: He's been awesome, better than I'd expected. Not only very calm under pressure, but able to make quick moves in-tight to get and move the puck -- something you don't typically see from big men but more guys like Stecher. Kindof like Salo, when he goes after the puck, you just have that feeling he's going to retrieve and get it out of the zone. A friend of mine can’t stand the guy and for the life of me I can’t understand why. He sent me some advanced stats to “show me how horrible” Gudbranson was. I pointed out that they didn’t show QoC, which for me is the biggest thing. Anyhow, was wondering what a good, up to date source online is to search for such things. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 13 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said: ...Sniff...that's my boy!!!...ehem, sorry got teary eyed there. Love this kid and the way he plays the game. He's really starting to look like he belongs out there! Every shift he gives it his all. And his Ice time reflects it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, ThaShady1 said: A friend of mine can’t stand the guy and for the life of me I can’t understand why. He sent me some advanced stats to “show me how horrible” Gudbranson was. I pointed out that they didn’t show QoC, which for me is the biggest thing. Anyhow, was wondering what a good, up to date source online is to search for such things. Thanks in advance. Cheers, @oldnews would be your source for that. And speaking of, it's only been one game but ON's calling for Jake with Sedins has looked pretty good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: Your original comment was not about "total ice time": Just showed you how it's looking. The lines are within 25% TOI top to bottom, for the entire season. The two "are" mutually exclusive. The idea behind rolling 4 lines is to balance the "total" ice time out. PP and PK come into affect in all games. it's pointless disregarding two huge contributors to a players ice time. PS, your math is quite a bit off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, higgyfan said: That's a lot of dirty hits if you ask me. Leaving his feet, head shots, targeting players. A good many of those hits would receive a suspension these days. Going up to a player backwards and being on Detroit, doesn't make his hits less dirty. He searches the ice for a player that has his head down. Makes what Jake did even more delicious. Who doesn't? thats hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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