Qwags Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Canada's defense is stacked. They'll be key in getting Canada gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 People keep thumbing me down but they left notable names off. The same people who thumbed me down when I said the Canucks would fall in the crapper after losing Bo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 7 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said: People keep thumbing me down but they left notable names off. The same people who thumbed me down when I said the Canucks would fall in the crapper after losing Bo? It's not a big deal but I just don't like those kinds of posts. When you say make a simple statement like that without any explanation, it looks like you're hoping to be right so you can go back and say you were right, as if that's more important than Canada winning. Obviously I don't know your actual intentions but I know some people on here would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Still cant believe Suzuki was left off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, Odd. said: Still cant believe Suzuki was left off. I can't believe Tippett didn't even an INVITE to camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Time Lord said: It's not a big deal but I just don't like those kinds of posts. When you say make a simple statement like that without any explanation, it looks like you're hoping to be right so you can go back and say you were right, as if that's more important than Canada winning. Obviously I don't know your actual intentions but I know some people on here would do that. That's not rly why. People just don't like it when you disagree with them about as something passionate as this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 USA Hockey has named Joey Anderson captain for the World Juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyStrecher Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I think Canada and the US will both be in trouble this year. Canada's forwards are seriously lacking in firepower, though their defense is solid even if Fabbro doesn't get healthy in time. The United States have a great top line with Yamamoto, Brown and Mittelstadt, and the rest of their forward group is solid too though lacking elite talent. Adam Fox is a great number one d-man but the rest of the defense looks kind of thin. Sweden has possibly the two best forwards at the tournament in Pettersson and Andersson, plus Boqvist, Jonsson Fjalby and others up front. Dahlin, Liljegren and Brannstrom on defense is ridiculously unfair. Finland has an insane defense with Juolevi, Heiskanen, Valimaki, Jokiharju, Vaakanainen, Salo and Rasanen. Plus guys like Tolvanen, Vesalainen, Heponiemi, Ikonen, Rasanen and Kupari up front. The Czech's have some great forwards in Chytil, Necas, Zadina and Safin, but their defense isn't great. I never know what to think or say about Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Sweden and Finland have stronger teams on paper but you never know in junior tourneys who comes out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 agree with that paper means nothing, coaching does play a big role in a team game and can not wait to watch the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 2017-12-17 at 3:42 AM, Odd. said: Still cant believe Suzuki was left off. On 2017-12-17 at 3:52 AM, RRypien37 said: I can't believe Tippett didn't even an INVITE to camp. When we looked back at the 2017, most agreed that it was a weaker draft, with no generational talent in the top 5. It was also a draft which was difficult to predict the top 10 because of the lack of prospect standing out from the group. WJC is also a 19 years old tournament, unless your McDavid, Laine, Matthews, therefore these cut by 1st rounder such as Suzuki and Tippett is the results of a weaker 2017 class. I don't think it means these guys won't be better NHLers than most of the current Team Canada, but only, that they are still raw prospect, not fully develop to overthrow the class of 19 years old before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I believe this team could be compared to the 2007 edition, the one with Carey Price, Bourdon, Letang, Staal, Alzner and Toews with his shootout magic. Many time during the tournament, especially against the US in the semi-final, the team was outmatch, but with a strong defense and great goaltending, Canada weather the storm and was able to win with opportunistic scoring. I think this year the team will have to do the same. It will come down to whether Hart can match Price's performance and hopefully someone standing out if the medal games goes to a shootout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, timberz21 said: When we looked back at the 2017, most agreed that it was a weaker draft, with no generational talent in the top 5. It was also a draft which was difficult to predict the top 10 because of the lack of prospect standing out from the group. WJC is also a 19 years old tournament, unless your McDavid, Laine, Matthews, therefore these cut by 1st rounder such as Suzuki and Tippett is the results of a weaker 2017 class. I don't think it means these guys won't be better NHLers than most of the current Team Canada, but only, that they are still raw prospect, not fully develop to overthrow the class of 19 years old before them. Tippett wasn't cut. He wasn't invited to the selection camp to begin with. He was also one of the few players eligible with actual NHL experience (7 games at the start of the season before being sent down by the Panthers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyStrecher Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 My Predictions: Sweden will beat Finland in the finals US will beat Canada for third Sweden will outscore their opponents in group B 18-2 Finland will beat both Canada and the US and finish first in Group A Czech's will beat Russia in Group B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 No Dahlin or Pettersson in the lineup for today’s pre-tourney game and Sweden still destroys Denmark 13-1 (and apparently the one goal against was an own goal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: No Dahlin or Pettersson in the lineup for today’s pre-tourney game and Sweden still destroys Denmark 13-1 (and apparently the one goal against was an own goal). That's odd, Denmark was an okay team last year and still has some of last year's talent. Hopefully they show up in the actual tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyStrecher Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Time Lord said: That's odd, Denmark was an okay team last year and still has some of last year's talent. Hopefully they show up in the actual tournament. It's nothing to do with how bad Denmark is (they aren't great), it's to do with how good Sweden is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, TonyStrecher said: It's nothing to do with how bad Denmark is (they aren't great), it's to do with how good Sweden is Pretty much. Even last year, when Denmark had a great tournament through the group stage, beat the Finns (3-2) and the Czechs (3-2 OT), and only narrowly lost to the Swiss (5-4 SO), they still fell 6-1 to the Swedes. Sweden looks even stronger this year, so a pre-tourney drubbing isn’t altogether surprising. Plus Denmark probably overachieved a bit last year. Still, as a Dane, it hurts a little to see my team smacked around by the Swedes. But at least it’s just hockey and not an important sport like handball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyStrecher Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 16 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Pretty much. Even last year, when Denmark had a great tournament through the group stage, beat the Finns (3-2) and the Czechs (3-2 OT), and only narrowly lost to the Swiss (5-4 SO), they still fell 6-1 to the Swedes. Sweden looks even stronger this year, so a pre-tourney drubbing isn’t altogether surprising. Plus Denmark probably overachieved a bit last year. Still, as a Dane, it hurts a little to see my team smacked around by the Swedes. But at least it’s just hockey and not an important sport like handball. And the Swede's were without Pettersson and Dahlin, but still I think you won't feel so bad once Sweden continues dominating other teams at the tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Wanted to post this here because of the closer look we'll get at the 2018 prospects, But if Dahlin and Boqvist are off the board by the time we pick, I think it would be wise to go for a BIG, SKILLED winger to balance our lines (a la WinnipegJets w/ Laine, Wheeler). Svechnikov is who I'll use as a placeholder but it could easily be Zadina as well. IMO we could create matchup problems for teams who would have to deal with Pettersson-Boeser and Horvat-Svechnikov. Those two dangerous combos would be worth more to me than what a small guy like Quinn Hughes could bring to the table. But the world juniors could change this for me, maybe Hughes or someone else shines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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