*Buzzsaw* Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Maybe Jake has a few more points and a couple goals, but right now Gaunce is a more valuable player for the Canucks. He hits people every shift, he is right on the mark defensively and he works hard to do his job. I believe in Virtanen's potential and have seen him show what he is capable of, but most of the time he is not focused on what he should be doing. I also believe he is in the wrong position... he doesn't have the creativity to play with the Sedins... he has trouble anticipating what they will be doing... and after 20 games he should have that down. Realistically if Virtanen is to succeed he has to start by developing good 4th line habits... hard forechecking, lots of hits, lots of energy, and a willingness to mix it up when the team needs toughness. Right now, the only thing he is giving the team is his speed. Gaunce has a lot less raw talent than Virtanen, but he is using what he has effectively. Jake needs a move to the 4th line, as well as a trip to the office and to be provided with a clear outline of what is expected of him. I'm not ready to give up on him yet, but time is running out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Hard work beats skills if skills doesn't work hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Gaunce and/or Jake may need to sit down in the press box and watch Burmistrov's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 if jake was given more minutes , I believe he could start scoring and hitting players hard. gaunce hits ,but they are soft hits , cant hurt a fly , gaunce needs to sit and watch everyone on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Coach believes in Gauncer and wants Jake to watch. He's doing exactly what you're asking. Putting BG at C is a great sign for our 4th. We're so lucky to have him, down a few Pizzas tho! Granlund to Minny where he's needed for a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Wouldn't mind Virtanen being replaced by Goldobin in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I think the only reasons Jake plays with the Sedins is probably mentoring and that Jake's speed adds a dynamic element to the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I like that Granlund - Gaunce - Virtanen line in the 3rd today, hopefully they can keep it that way for a couple of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Granny Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Gaunce = Pyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, fanfor42 said: Gaunce = Pyatt no this is wrong, Pyatt could score, he had 23 goals and 37 point with Van in 06. Gaunce cannot score. If you cannot score once and a while you ain't going to stay in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 5 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Maybe Jake has a few more points and a couple goals, but right now Gaunce is a more valuable player for the Canucks. He hits people every shift, he is right on the mark defensively and he works hard to do his job. I believe in Virtanen's potential and have seen him show what he is capable of, but most of the time he is not focused on what he should be doing. I also believe he is in the wrong position... he doesn't have the creativity to play with the Sedins... he has trouble anticipating what they will be doing... and after 20 games he should have that down. Realistically if Virtanen is to succeed he has to start by developing good 4th line habits... hard forechecking, lots of hits, lots of energy, and a willingness to mix it up when the team needs toughness. Right now, the only thing he is giving the team is his speed. Gaunce has a lot less raw talent than Virtanen, but he is using what he has effectively. Jake needs a move to the 4th line, as well as a trip to the office and to be provided with a clear outline of what is expected of him. I'm not ready to give up on him yet, but time is running out. So you're saying you're not "giving up on him", in the same paragraph you're saying that he needs to start settling into a 4th line position? Seems kind of contradictory to me. Also, "time is running out"? He's 21 years old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: So you're saying you're not "giving up on him", in the same paragraph you're saying that he needs to start settling into a 4th line position? Seems kind of contradictory to me. Also, "time is running out"? He's 21 years old! well you know somethin mean gene! oh its a buzzsaw thread? carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Mike Tyson thinks Gaunce can’t carry Jakes jockstrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 First sign JV to a multi-yr extension, for a low price. Then put him where he'll get more pts! Think he's showing positive signs..just the twins' game isn't suitable to his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Some people on here wanted him with the Sedin's and now they are blaming the Sedin's. He slowly looks disinterested in the last few games, couple of good shifts and then disappears for long stretches witch leads to Green cutting down ice time in the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I think they should keep the status quo and allow Green and the twins to keep working with him so Jake can keep on improving. Pairing Virtanen with the Sedins might not make the most sense chemistry wise, but right now it's the best place for him to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Gaunce works hard, and I enjoy watching him, but the reality is he just isn't talented enough. Virtanen has the potential, but has shown time and time again he isn't able to put it all together. Would rather have Goldobin in the lineup than either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Jake is dying out there on the Sedin line. Move him to a line with better legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Virtanen needs one of those athlete shrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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