beni Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Signing him for 7+ years is a bad business move. The team that signs him will regret it after year 5 and it will just be a huge financial drain. Can anyone imagine paying the Sedins 11m right now? Some serious salary structuring would have to be done to make it worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Reading stuff on could Karlsson be traded? Man if they in a position where they move Karlsson, write the Sens franchise off...As a fan, how could you even rationalize this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 hours ago, beni said: Signing him for 7+ years is a bad business move. The team that signs him will regret it after year 5 and it will just be a huge financial drain. Can anyone imagine paying the Sedins 11m right now? Some serious salary structuring would have to be done to make it worthwhile. lol after yr 5? Only 2 more left at 7...He is easily worth 7+ yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, JV77 said: Reading stuff on could Karlsson be traded? Man if they in a position where they move Karlsson, write the Sens franchise off...As a fan, how could you even rationalize this? Especially after getting fleeced in both the Burrows and Duchene trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Zhukini said: Especially after getting fleeced in both the Burrows and Duchene trade Duchene hasn't anything if I'm correct. The Preds are the winners, adding Turris behind Johanssen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beni Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 hours ago, JV77 said: lol after yr 5? Only 2 more left at 7...He is easily worth 7+ yrs. So... Karlsson will be what, 29? When his contract expires? So you would pay 10+ million to a Dman over the age of 35? Sure, he will be great for like maybe 5 years after his current contract. He is one of the top Dmen in the league and will he for a few more years. Front loading still an option? Thats a risky investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, beni said: So... Karlsson will be what, 29? When his contract expires? So you would pay 10+ million to a Dman over the age of 35? Sure, he will be great for like maybe 5 years after his current contract. He is one of the top Dmen in the league and will he for a few more years. Front loading still an option? Thats a risky investment. Karlsson will be still be good at 35 imo, he is one of the rare ones. And yeh salary cap just been going up each season, and in 7 yrs will probably be a lot higher. 10 million right now is the 7-8 million that was the norm for top players. And as a result 3-5 mill will be the norm form 3rd/4th liners. Salaries just inflating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Cheap owners won't pay Karlsson the money he wants anyway so he'll walk, they'd be smart to try and trade him. Could probably get a star center 1-for-1, or a big-time package. Top-line forward, 1st round pick, defensive prospect should do it. Draisaitl + 1st for Karlsson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Cheap owners won't pay Karlsson the money he wants anyway so he'll walk, they'd be smart to try and trade him. Could probably get a star center 1-for-1, or a big-time package. Top-line forward, 1st round pick, defensive prospect should do it. Draisaitl + 1st for Karlsson? OTT: Karlsson & JG Pageau(9.6 mill AAV) EDM: Larsson RNH Poolparty 2018 1st 2019 3rd (about 11.1 AAV) If Edm wins it all, change 2019 pick to their 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Watch the Sens trade EK for a huge haul and then get Dahlin with the 1st overall. The way they're playing they're going to finish at or very close to the bottom, with or without Ek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 If I were Karlsson I’d be doing the same too. It has nothing to do with the money though, just looking at what a catastrophic mess Ottawa has become. It seems Dorion is making a run at Milbury’s title of dumbest GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bitter Melon said: If I were Karlsson I’d be doing the same too. It has nothing to do with the money though, just looking at what a catastrophic mess Ottawa has become. It seems Dorion is making a run at Milbury’s title of dumbest GM. Has any franchise squandered as much talent over the past two decades?..Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 Worth a bump. Kypper apparently strongly suggesting this could happen by TDL( a wk away)..not that his opinion's gospel, of course. Makes sense.. a team should ante up more for EK & two PO-runs(before next contract). Many are suggesting TBay. They've got the desired prospects, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 12/13/2017 at 3:26 PM, Bitter Melon said: If I were Karlsson I’d be doing the same too. It has nothing to do with the money though, just looking at what a catastrophic mess Ottawa has become. It seems Dorion is making a run at Milbury’s title of dumbest GM. Bear in mind whoever is the GM of the Sens is limited to what they can do because of the owner. Heck, even Milbury had to deal with Wang a fair bit. Remember that owner's thought about using Sumo wrestlers as goalies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Started this thread, with a sorta' anticipation of a long, protracted melodrama. Hope this biz is speedily wrapped by next wk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Ill take nashville for the team that lands karlsson, if he gets dealt on tdl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, captainhorvat said: Ill take nashville for the team that lands karlsson, if he gets dealt on tdl. They just picked Dorion's pocket(CLEAN!) for Turris..the optics would be torture. Who would they send back to OTT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: They just picked Dorion's pocket(CLEAN!) for Turris..the optics would be torture. Who would they send back to OTT? Eeli Tolvanen Kevin Fiala Ryan Ellis 2018 1st rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, captainhorvat said: Eeli Tolvanen Kevin Fiala Ryan Ellis 2018 1st rounder Betcha' Dorion asks for another 1st in 2019(esp since Avs take the OTT pick)..maybe conditional*(pending Cup win, or EK re-signing) Interesting deal though..you've made the F***'in D-core from Utopia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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